[Linux-aus] Victim Impact Statement

Luke Martinez me at luke.asia
Tue Nov 5 21:20:44 EST 2013

>This, and much much worse, has happened
to women in IT.

Show me one instance of a woman being publicly shamed because she has a
different opinion about policy on a IT Mailing List.  Most mailing lists
are public & have records so i'm sure you can show me... oh.. you can't?

This faux anecdotal evidence BS is just that, BS. THIS is what has
happened, it's not justifiable just because you can come up with some
fairyland situation in which a woman is publicly shamed for having a
different opinion on a policy.

Seriously.  "oh but in my imagination im SUUUUUREEE its happened to women
toooo" is horrible justifcation.


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Paul Wayper <paulway at mabula.net> wrote:

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> Well, that's sad.
> I _am_ sorry for David; I've been through rough patches and contemplated
> suicide and I know it's terrible to find that other people are making your
> life miserable.  No-one needs to go through that, especially not at the
> hands of a group, especially not on this topic.
> Because this is the stupid thing.  This, and much much worse, has happened
> to women in IT.  It's probably happening to someone right now.  Some women
> have feared for their lives because of attacks on Twitter.  Some women have
> had to quit their jobs and move because a group of people decided to make
> her life awful.  No-one should ever have to go through that.
> There are obvious differences in the situations and I think it's worth
> people reflecting on them.
> Personally, I beg the reader in the future, wading through this little
> episode on the Linux Australia list and trying to distill some wisdom out
> of
> all the words: please by all you hold dear think before you post.  Do your
> research.  Do not be surprised if you raise a contentious issue and people
> get angry.  Do not be surprised if someone raises a contentious issue and
> thinks they've seen a totally new side to it with which you feel already
> totally, unpleasantly familiar.  Please be slow to anger and quick to
> forgive.  To paraphrase Kipling, be prepared to hear the words you've
> spoken
> twisted into a trap - and do not fall into that trap.  Please find within
> yourself the strength to step away from something that hurts and let the
> problem pass by.
> I don't speak from a position of expertise with any of those things.  I
> still work on learning these lessons.
> Good luck, David, in whatever path you take to recovery.  Good luck, all of
> us, in being better people in the future.
> All the best,
> Paul
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