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Re: [Linux-aus] Can Linux Australia survive?

James Purser wrote:
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 18:39, Lorn Potter wrote:

You guys all seem to be ignoring the fact that Linux Australia is staging a conference in a different country, and more than one person questions this.

I don't see how anyone can think that having LCA in NZ can actually be "helping the Australian Linux Community" at all. You are helping New Zealands Linux community, which is fine. Did you ever think it may actually be hurting Linux Australia to do this?

Lorn if you go back through the postings last year when NZ was announced
as first a candidate and then the next host, I think you will find that
the majority have accepted the decision and are looking forward to it.
Yes some would have rathered the conference happened in Broome but the
Broome bid team weren't prepared enough.

Yes more than one person is questioning the decision, so far it appears
to be two on this list,

I speak also for the people I have talked to who think it is very odd that linux _australia_, is having a conference in nz.
Just because only two people voice their opinion on this list does not mean more people share the thought that it might seem a bit retarded for an organization suposedly dedicated to Linux in Australia (and so far as I can tell, no where in the Charter does it mention any other country).

Yes, _dedicated_ people will go through the process of getting a passport, arriving at the airport two hours before the flight to travel overseas, go through all the immigration/customs schmooschmaa to get to LCA. If these highly dedicated people are your intended target, then Linux Australia will not grow.

You must ask yourselves this, do you simply exist to preach to the choir? or trying to gather wider interest in Linux in for Australia?

> yourself and Bret and as far as I can see that
the only thing that would make Bret happy is a complete reversal of the
decision to send the Conference to Dunedine and return it to Perth.

I am not trying to put down your input or belittle anything that Bret
has had to say, you are both well within your rights to express your
opinion, however I would urge the both of you to accept the decision for
next year as it does not appear about to change unless the NZ team
decides to pull out. Instead if you care so much about the direction of
LA, the next time the elections come round put yourself up for election,
let the membership decide. Who knows you might win and then you will be
able to steer the good ship LA.

I entered this thread mostly for the sake of making a point. But also because I care about how it appears from the vantage point of an international community. Not just from the Linux community here in Australia. and I must say, from an outside perspective, it looks sus and silly.

I have yet to see any real arguments about this decision, and no, it is not just as easy to fly to Perth than it is to NZ.

Bret made a valid point, I believe.

Look at it this way - say I am a business with an interest in supporting the Linux community here in Australia. Why should I donate to an organization who purports to be for supporting the _Australian_ Linux Community, when they are now supporting the Linux community Internationally? Is this organization really trustworthy with my money when the stated Charter does not even mention they are now supporting the Linux Community elsewhere?

-- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Trolltech Qtopia Community Manager irc.freenode.net #qtopia http://qtopia.net