[Linux-aus] Electron Workshop spam

[Al Maclang]

Can we integrate our mailing system with an agentic AI and train the AI on
proper governance?

I hope this suggestion helps.

Al
https://www.linkedin.com/in/albertomaclang/

On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 at 15:03, Russell Coker via linux-aus <
linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 3 February 2026 10:13:36 AEDT dvalin--- via linux-aus wrote:
> > > The main problem is that they harvested the addresses from another list
> > > and
> > >
> > > continually refuse to change their behaviour in that regard.
> >
> > In contrast, I'm pleased that some vestigial contact with local Linux
> > remains, after I was arbitrarily unsubscribed from luv-main, apparently
> by
> > some automaton, on the spurious basis of "a number of bounces".
>
> That's an ongoing issue with mailing lists.  Email is Balkanised by the
> different choices regarding anti-spam measures.  So when (not if) a
> mailing
> list passes through email that some servers (correctly or incorrectly -
> usually incorrectly) consider spam then people get unsubscribed.
>
> You are correct that something equivalent to luv-main is needed.  In the
> old
> days there was enough mailing list traffic that having separate lists for
> discussing random Linux issues made sense.  When you exceed a certain
> number
> of list members the number of duplicate answers due to email lag becomes
> excessive and the benefits of having more people to increase the
> probability
> of a good answer taper off when a certain number of people are present.
>
> Now the email traffic from all Linux users in Australia who want to
> discuss
> things on mailing lists can fit on this list.  If you look through the
> archives of this list you will see discussions on similar topics to
> luv-main.
>
> https://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo
>
> A quick scan of this page suggests that the majority of lists on this
> server
> could be removed due to lack of traffic, maybe with the archives moved to
> an
> obsolete lists page.
>
> It seems that most of the discussion that used to happen on mailing lists
> now
> happens on Matrix.  Have you considered getting a Matrix account?
>
> Also in the old days questions about how to install Linux etc all went to
> luv-
> main while nowadays people tend to use a web forum run by the distribution
> they are using.
>
> > The email address, in use for a couple of decades has received hundreds
> of
> > thousands of list mails, and continues to reliably do so. OK, the sloppy
> > luv chop happened back in October 2024, and the crappy system might have
> > been improved since. I have no way of knowing.
>
> In about 2022 I quit doing anything noteworthy in terms of LUV sysadmin
> and
> have just kept the VM ticking over ever since.  For reasons that are
> probably
> similar to mine no-one else wanted to work on it.
>
> > While my reaction is "whatever", Brian's focus on fixing problems is
> > constructive, and more conducive to list survival as more and more go
> > moribund these days.
>
> Neither Brian nor anyone else in this discussion has actually focussed on
> fixing problems, Brian and some others have stated that it would be good
> to
> have problems fixed but have not volunteered to do it.  If Brian wants to
> work
> on the LUV server he can email me his ssh public key and I'll give him
> root
> access (I've known Brian for more than 30 years and worked with him on
> several
> occasions).  If you want to work on it then we can have a chat about that,
> the
> process wouldn't be as quick as it would for Brian but it's definitely an
> option.
>
> If Brian wants to work on the Electron Workshop stuff then I'm sure they
> will
> be happy to work with him, but AFAIK he has not volunteered for such
> things.
>
> Also there has not been any mention of plans for a general Linux mailing
> list
> similar to luv-main by the Electron Workshop people, just the luv-announce
> list.
>
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