[Linux-aus] Should we change? Yes. To change is to grow.
jamezpolley at gmail.com
Sun Apr 29 08:12:53 EST 2012
It's lovely to see that the youngsters of today still remember the classic
Python sketches like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
It's also fun to see the sketches being adapted to provide some light
relief in the middle of an otherwise serious (but useful) dialogue :)
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:34 AM, David Lloyd <lloy0076 at adam.com.au> wrote:
> On 29/04/2012, at 12:51 AM, Donna Benjamin wrote:
> > On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 23:16 +0930, David Lloyd wrote:
> >> Their current problem, though, could be that they need to be like
> >> children and move out of home. But that just adds a heap of pain on
> >> their shoulders when -- but for the name -- Not Linux Australia Inc
> >> could take some of that pain.
> > This isn't mine and Chris's problem at all. I actually reckon pycon,
> > DDU and wordcamp could all continue on just fine without a name change
> > as sub-committees of Linux Australia. It's just that our experience
> > running those events has shown us examples of why it's a good idea to
> > think about changing the name of this organisation.
> > But to focus on Chris and me is to miss the point.
> No it's not.
> > To focus on sponsorships and events, is to miss the point.
> No it's not.
> > The point, is that Linux Australia is a really effective organisation
> > right now, supporting SOME of the Australian free and open source
> > software, open hardware and technology freedom community.
> I agree there.
> > There's a lot more of the community that just doesn't engage with us,
> > because they either don't know we exist, or (possibly wrongly) think we
> > wouldn't welcome them with open arms. Or worse, actively feel like they
> > don't matter to us, or we don't matter to them.
> That's perfectly clear
> > Also - for all of you telling us to go away and set up other
> > organisations? Really?
> > I mean really? Can you hear yourself in the mirror?
> How about: "I'll provide you with my insurance for free and then you tell
> me to change my legal name." You look in your own mirror before you try to
> see my vision in mine.
> > Using the resources, infrastructure and legal entity of Linux Australia
> > means countless volunteers are not wasting money, time and energy on
> > duplicating administrivial tasks they would otherwise be required to do
> > if they did that.
> > That is why LA has offered these resources to these groups.
> > It's one of the truly useful things LA does for the community.
> So we should change its name. Apparently. I think.
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