It's lovely to see that the youngsters of today still remember the classic Python sketches like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y</a><div><br></div><div>It's also fun to see the sketches being adapted to provide some light relief in the middle of an otherwise serious (but useful) dialogue :)</div>
<div><br><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:34 AM, David Lloyd <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lloy0076@adam.com.au" target="_blank">lloy0076@adam.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Donna,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On 29/04/2012, at 12:51 AM, Donna Benjamin wrote:<br>
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> On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 23:16 +0930, David Lloyd wrote:<br>
>> Their current problem, though, could be that they need to be like<br>
>> children and move out of home. But that just adds a heap of pain on<br>
>> their shoulders when -- but for the name -- Not Linux Australia Inc<br>
>> could take some of that pain.<br>
><br>
> This isn't mine and Chris's problem at all. I actually reckon pycon,<br>
> DDU and wordcamp could all continue on just fine without a name change<br>
> as sub-committees of Linux Australia. It's just that our experience<br>
> running those events has shown us examples of why it's a good idea to<br>
> think about changing the name of this organisation.<br>
><br>
> But to focus on Chris and me is to miss the point.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>No it's not.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
> To focus on sponsorships and events, is to miss the point.<br>
<br>
</div>No it's not.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> The point, is that Linux Australia is a really effective organisation<br>
> right now, supporting SOME of the Australian free and open source<br>
> software, open hardware and technology freedom community.<br>
<br>
</div>I agree there.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> There's a lot more of the community that just doesn't engage with us,<br>
> because they either don't know we exist, or (possibly wrongly) think we<br>
> wouldn't welcome them with open arms. Or worse, actively feel like they<br>
> don't matter to us, or we don't matter to them.<br>
<br>
</div>That's perfectly clear<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Also - for all of you telling us to go away and set up other<br>
> organisations? Really?<br>
><br>
> I mean really? Can you hear yourself in the mirror?<br>
<br>
</div>Yes.<br>
<br>
How about: "I'll provide you with my insurance for free and then you tell me to change my legal name." You look in your own mirror before you try to see my vision in mine.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Using the resources, infrastructure and legal entity of Linux Australia<br>
> means countless volunteers are not wasting money, time and energy on<br>
> duplicating administrivial tasks they would otherwise be required to do<br>
> if they did that.<br>
><br>
> That is why LA has offered these resources to these groups.<br>
> It's one of the truly useful things LA does for the community.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>So we should change its name. Apparently. I think.<br>
<br>
DSL<br>
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