[Linux-aus] Spam :: Linux Device

Tue Apr 26 15:15:19 AEST 2016

Andre, you still have not responded to any of my concerns.
The most basic things are a name, a website, pointers to some relevant
source code contributions etc.
The only things I could find relating to you online were not encouraging to
say the least but I can only assume that you are a different person than
the Andre Coetzee that I found reference to online (of who I could find no
evidence of code contributions beyond some php code from a few years ago)

On 26 April 2016 at 15:09, ac <ac at main.me> wrote:

>
> Thank you for taking the time to help me Rob & Chris, here is what I
> should have posted:
>
> Hello, my name is Andre
>
> I have developed new Linux based spam technology and I am interested in
> bringing it to Australia.
>
> The reason I am posting to this mailing list is that the technology is
> built on Linux and I am keen on finding an Australian Linux partner to
> work with on this project.
>
> I am also offering that the list could use this Linux technology, at no
> cost, and as it functions external (no software to install) to servers
> and is controlled by the server(s) administrator, the risks to critical
> infrastructure is mitigated as it could be switched on/off
> instantaneously.
>
> If the risk is still considered to be too high, as I have no track
> record or credibility and you risk investing/wasting your time, we
> could revisit this proposal if, or after, I find someone to work with.
>
> I do not yet have an AU brand name or any other information as this is
> not a proposal or sales pitch for my technology, but simply a request
> for any interested party to contact me off list so that we can discuss
> the technology and I could demonstrate the workings thereof to such
> interested party(ies)
>
> Should I not find an Australian party, no worries, I will start the
> venture in a different country and then bring it to Australia at a
> later time.
>
> Thank you for taking the time to read my request and have a nice day
>
> Andre
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 13:25:10 +1000
> Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As an interested bystander, something that ac may not realise is that
> > the first thing that pops into MY mind when I see that (and possibly
> > a few other people) is that they're referring to 'Anonymous Coward',
> > which is used on Slashdot when someone does not wish to identify
> > themselves.
> >
> > That may not be a deliberate choice on ac's behalf, but maybe that's
> > why their vague comments and lack of actual information may be
> > rubbing people the wrong way.
> >
> > --Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > On 26 April 2016 at 13:11, Chris Debenham <chris at adebenham.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm afraid that nothing you presented makes clear your skill/tech
> > > background - or even what your name is.
> > > That you haven't even answered these questions when directly asked
> > > erodes any good-will you may have had.
> > > I had hoped to give you the benefit of the doubt (assuming english
> > > as second language) but your avoidance of even basic questions and
> > > inability to provide anything backing your words leads me to no
> > > longer hold out hope for that.
> > > Please remember that you are talking to a group of people who hold
> > > linux and open source as greatly important.  There are a large
> > > number of people with high technical skills and so would expect
> > > interactions on such a core topic (email privacy, control and
> > > handling is very important) to be done at such a level as to
> > > dissuade any fears. If you ever decide to come forward with a
> > > proper proposal then people may indeed be interested (maybe not for
> > > linux australia lists - but perhaps others) - but based on what you
> > > have provided (or not provided) so far - the level of evidence
> > > would need to be greatly increased before anyone is likely to be
> > > interested.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >   Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > On 25 April 2016 at 23:13, ac <ac at main.me> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 22:17:04 +1000
> > >> Chris Debenham <chris at adebenham.com> wrote:
> > >> > Andre,
> > >> > Perhaps if you wish to be taken seriously you should introduce
> > >> > yourself more fully.
> > >> > Explain who you are, what your technical background is, links to
> > >> > source you have written /contributed to,  things like that.
> > >> > By showing a background in related development it would lend
> > >> > credence to your words.
> > >> >
> > >> > -- Please excuse my brevity as this email was sent from my
> > >> > microwave
> > >>
> > >> bleh, maybe I should have done that before I typed so much... from
> > >> what i typed my skill/tech background should be clear to my peers
> > >> and I am not happy about being called a spammer, twice. The second
> > >> time around even an amateur spammer, whahahahaha
> > >>
> > >> I think that I have wasted enough of the lists bandwidth - If
> > >> anyone is keen on chatting with me about working together, please
> > >> mail me off list
> > >>
> > >> otherwise I do apologize for wasting your bits
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> your brevity is cool, i like your microwave, mine only makes
> > >> popcorn, still trying to teach it to mail...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > On 25 Apr 2016 9:40 PM, "ac" <ac at main.me> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 20:44:59 +0930
> > >> > "David Lloyd" <lloy0076 at adam.com.au> wrote:
> > >> > > Well,
> > >> > > > Dude, seriously, you should rather top post...
> > >> > > Really? No.
> > >> > > > You posted: (i think?)
> > >> > > > that i did not read what Noel said? (i did)
> > >> > > My apologies - to be more precise, then, comprehend.
> > >> > >
> > >> > in which way then?  you simply saying that hardly explains
> > >> > anything... (or makes it so) I do understand that you believe
> > >> > that, but lets move from belief to fact? So, simply say what it
> > >> > is that is not understood/comprehended.
> > >> >
> > >> > > > that I am redistributing spam assassin (i am not - i do not
> > >> > > > use it) that I am an amateur spammer :)
> > >> > > You're describing a product which sounds very like it.
> > >> > >
> > >> >  no, actually not. see, so you can learn something
> > >> >
> > >> > even from a vague amateur spammer :)
> > >> >
> > >> > SA works by 'judging'  an actual received spam - and a dnsbl
> > >> > rejects spam before your email server receives it as the sender
> > >> > is blacklisted (or accepts email on a whitelist basis - my
> > >> > system does that for ipv6)
> > >> >
> > >> > there are various dnsbl
> > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_blacklists
> > >> >
> > >> > SA
> > >> >
> https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+spamassasin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
> > >> >
> > >> > > > spammer 101 is vague details and appeals to emotion?
> > >> > > No, it implies you don't know what you're talking about; you
> > >> > > haven't really proved me wrong.
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > really?
> > >> >
> > >> > > > any linux techie with some experience can read / understand
> > >> > > > what i am saying instead of a vague accusation - why do you
> > >> > > > not say exactly what
> > >> > > is
> > >> > > > vague to you so I can explain it better ?
> > >> > > Others have done so already - why would I bother to do so
> > >> > > myself when you clearly don't comprehend what they've said to
> > >> > > you?
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > not sure what to say to all that. I guess, the best answer is
> > >> > that my subject is not belief or emotion or anything vague :) -
> > >> > it is science
> > >> >
> > >> > you either are an expert in your field - or you are just an
> > >> > expert - everyone these days is an expert
> > >> >
> > >> > Maybe spend the time and re-read everything that I have written
> > >> > and then if you like I can teach/help/explain something to you -
> > >> > but be exact in what you do not understand as the subjects are
> > >> > rather involved and many on the list probably know the basics
> > >> > already
> > >> >
> > >> > As this is a Linux list - with many many programmers and well
> > >> > skilled Linux sysadmins - I am very sure we can all quickly
> > >> > figure out what is what :)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > DSL
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
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