<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Andre, you still have not responded to any of my concerns.<br></div>The most basic things are a name, a website, pointers to some relevant source code contributions etc.<br></div>The only things I could find relating to you online were not encouraging to say the least but I can only assume that you are a different person than the Andre Coetzee that I found reference to online (of who I could find no evidence of code contributions beyond some php code from a few years ago)<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 April 2016 at 15:09, ac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ac@main.me" target="_blank">ac@main.me</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Thank you for taking the time to help me Rob & Chris, here is what I<br>
should have posted:<br>
<br>
Hello, my name is Andre<br>
<br>
I have developed new Linux based spam technology and I am interested in<br>
bringing it to Australia.<br>
<br>
The reason I am posting to this mailing list is that the technology is<br>
built on Linux and I am keen on finding an Australian Linux partner to<br>
work with on this project.<br>
<br>
I am also offering that the list could use this Linux technology, at no<br>
cost, and as it functions external (no software to install) to servers<br>
and is controlled by the server(s) administrator, the risks to critical<br>
infrastructure is mitigated as it could be switched on/off<br>
instantaneously.<br>
<br>
If the risk is still considered to be too high, as I have no track<br>
record or credibility and you risk investing/wasting your time, we<br>
could revisit this proposal if, or after, I find someone to work with.<br>
<br>
I do not yet have an AU brand name or any other information as this is<br>
not a proposal or sales pitch for my technology, but simply a request<br>
for any interested party to contact me off list so that we can discuss<br>
the technology and I could demonstrate the workings thereof to such<br>
interested party(ies)<br>
<br>
Should I not find an Australian party, no worries, I will start the<br>
venture in a different country and then bring it to Australia at a<br>
later time.<br>
<br>
Thank you for taking the time to read my request and have a nice day<br>
<br>
Andre<br>
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 13:25:10 +1000<br>
Rob Thomas <<a href="mailto:xrobau@gmail.com">xrobau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> As an interested bystander, something that ac may not realise is that<br>
> the first thing that pops into MY mind when I see that (and possibly<br>
> a few other people) is that they're referring to 'Anonymous Coward',<br>
> which is used on Slashdot when someone does not wish to identify<br>
> themselves.<br>
><br>
> That may not be a deliberate choice on ac's behalf, but maybe that's<br>
> why their vague comments and lack of actual information may be<br>
> rubbing people the wrong way.<br>
><br>
> --Rob<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 26 April 2016 at 13:11, Chris Debenham <<a href="mailto:chris@adebenham.com">chris@adebenham.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > I'm afraid that nothing you presented makes clear your skill/tech<br>
> > background - or even what your name is.<br>
> > That you haven't even answered these questions when directly asked<br>
> > erodes any good-will you may have had.<br>
> > I had hoped to give you the benefit of the doubt (assuming english<br>
> > as second language) but your avoidance of even basic questions and<br>
> > inability to provide anything backing your words leads me to no<br>
> > longer hold out hope for that.<br>
> > Please remember that you are talking to a group of people who hold<br>
> > linux and open source as greatly important. There are a large<br>
> > number of people with high technical skills and so would expect<br>
> > interactions on such a core topic (email privacy, control and<br>
> > handling is very important) to be done at such a level as to<br>
> > dissuade any fears. If you ever decide to come forward with a<br>
> > proper proposal then people may indeed be interested (maybe not for<br>
> > linux australia lists - but perhaps others) - but based on what you<br>
> > have provided (or not provided) so far - the level of evidence<br>
> > would need to be greatly increased before anyone is likely to be<br>
> > interested.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> > Chris<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On 25 April 2016 at 23:13, ac <<a href="mailto:ac@main.me">ac@main.me</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 22:17:04 +1000<br>
> >> Chris Debenham <<a href="mailto:chris@adebenham.com">chris@adebenham.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> > Andre,<br>
> >> > Perhaps if you wish to be taken seriously you should introduce<br>
> >> > yourself more fully.<br>
> >> > Explain who you are, what your technical background is, links to<br>
> >> > source you have written /contributed to, things like that.<br>
> >> > By showing a background in related development it would lend<br>
> >> > credence to your words.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > -- Please excuse my brevity as this email was sent from my<br>
> >> > microwave<br>
> >><br>
> >> bleh, maybe I should have done that before I typed so much... from<br>
> >> what i typed my skill/tech background should be clear to my peers<br>
> >> and I am not happy about being called a spammer, twice. The second<br>
> >> time around even an amateur spammer, whahahahaha<br>
> >><br>
> >> I think that I have wasted enough of the lists bandwidth - If<br>
> >> anyone is keen on chatting with me about working together, please<br>
> >> mail me off list<br>
> >><br>
> >> otherwise I do apologize for wasting your bits<br>
> >><br>
> >> --<br>
> >> your brevity is cool, i like your microwave, mine only makes<br>
> >> popcorn, still trying to teach it to mail...<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> > On 25 Apr 2016 9:40 PM, "ac" <<a href="mailto:ac@main.me">ac@main.me</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 20:44:59 +0930<br>
> >> > "David Lloyd" <<a href="mailto:lloy0076@adam.com.au">lloy0076@adam.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> > > Well,<br>
> >> > > > Dude, seriously, you should rather top post...<br>
> >> > > Really? No.<br>
> >> > > > You posted: (i think?)<br>
> >> > > > that i did not read what Noel said? (i did)<br>
> >> > > My apologies - to be more precise, then, comprehend.<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > in which way then? you simply saying that hardly explains<br>
> >> > anything... (or makes it so) I do understand that you believe<br>
> >> > that, but lets move from belief to fact? So, simply say what it<br>
> >> > is that is not understood/comprehended.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > > > that I am redistributing spam assassin (i am not - i do not<br>
> >> > > > use it) that I am an amateur spammer :)<br>
> >> > > You're describing a product which sounds very like it.<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > no, actually not. see, so you can learn something<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > even from a vague amateur spammer :)<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > SA works by 'judging' an actual received spam - and a dnsbl<br>
> >> > rejects spam before your email server receives it as the sender<br>
> >> > is blacklisted (or accepts email on a whitelist basis - my<br>
> >> > system does that for ipv6)<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > there are various dnsbl<br>
> >> > <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_blacklists" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_blacklists</a><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > SA<br>
> >> > <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+spamassasin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+spamassasin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8</a><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > > > spammer 101 is vague details and appeals to emotion?<br>
> >> > > No, it implies you don't know what you're talking about; you<br>
> >> > > haven't really proved me wrong.<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > really?<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > > > any linux techie with some experience can read / understand<br>
> >> > > > what i am saying instead of a vague accusation - why do you<br>
> >> > > > not say exactly what<br>
> >> > > is<br>
> >> > > > vague to you so I can explain it better ?<br>
> >> > > Others have done so already - why would I bother to do so<br>
> >> > > myself when you clearly don't comprehend what they've said to<br>
> >> > > you?<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > not sure what to say to all that. I guess, the best answer is<br>
> >> > that my subject is not belief or emotion or anything vague :) -<br>
> >> > it is science<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > you either are an expert in your field - or you are just an<br>
> >> > expert - everyone these days is an expert<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Maybe spend the time and re-read everything that I have written<br>
> >> > and then if you like I can teach/help/explain something to you -<br>
> >> > but be exact in what you do not understand as the subjects are<br>
> >> > rather involved and many on the list probably know the basics<br>
> >> > already<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > As this is a Linux list - with many many programmers and well<br>
> >> > skilled Linux sysadmins - I am very sure we can all quickly<br>
> >> > figure out what is what :)<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > > DSL<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > _______________________________________________<br>
> >> > linux-aus mailing list<br>
> >> > <a href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au">linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au</a><br>
> >> > <a href="http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> _______________________________________________<br>
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