[LC++]Getting started

[Larry Lines]

I use this site quite a bit for the standard library:
http://www.cppreference.com/

I don't have the functions memorized and finding the
best way to do something in any language is about 
trial and error.  I read tutorials on cplus.about.com 
and other sites through google for specific tasks.   I 
lurk this list and try to understand what the questions
and answers are.  I also ask other experienced c/c++
coders.  If they don't know, I ask this list.

My background is everything but c/c++, and I have been
tearing into it the best that I can for the past 18 months.
But it is difficult and takes time and lots of looking 
stupid.  But I know from learning other languages
and giving people tips and help with their work that
the best thing is just to keep asking and reading.  And
just admitting that you don't know is the easiest way
to get advice.  Spend an honest effort trying to figure
it out yourself and then ask someone who knows.

Hope that helps...  I am interested to see what others
on the list have to say.

Larry Lines

   -------Original Message-------
   > From: Robert Misior <misior at salem.edu>
   > Subject: Re: [LC++]Getting started
   > Sent: 01 Oct 2004 14:39:19
   >
   >  Hello,
   >  
   >  I would say that it still all depends on what you are trying to do ( I
   >  guess knowing what is possible is the key)
   >  Here are some links that I  find useful: "C++ Beyond the Standard
   >  Library"
   >  http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2003/05/06/cplusplusian.html
   >  and this page has some usefully links:
   >  http://www.thefreecountry.com/sourcecode/cpp.shtml
   >  If you are interested in GUI development I would recommend Qt
   >  http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/index.html it is a lot more then just a GUI
   >  API, reminds me a lot of java :) with many standard objects. Or a pure
   >  open source GUI API  http://www.wxwindows.org/
   >  If you are interested in graphics there is the classic OpenGL, or game
   >  development SDL http://www.libsdl.org/index.php (these two are C API but
   >  you can use them from C++)
   >  
   >  I'm also interested to see what will other members of this list  recommend.
   >  
   >  Hope this helps,
   >  Robert
   >  
   >  
   >  
   >  Pavao, John C. wrote:
   >  
   >  > Since no mailing list is really complete without the occasional idiot
   >  > newbie question...  :-)
   >  >
   >  > I've been lurking this list for several months because I'm trying to
   >  > teach myself C++, but I certainly admit the list is out of my league.
   >  >
   >  > As for trying to learn C++, I'm only able to get so far when it comes
   >  > to applying what I'm learning to real world situations because I seem
   >  > to be missing something important.  I haven't figured out how to know
   >  > learn what to use in a given situation.  I do a lot of UNIX shell
   >  > scripting, and I'll often find myself saying, "ok, if this were a
   >  > shell script, I'd use the suchandsuch command", but I don't know what
   >  > to do in C++.  I haven't found a good way to learn what's in specific
   >  > libraries and how to use what's there.  I've come up with a pile of
   >  > simple working programs based on examples I've seen, but when I get to
   >  > wanting to do something I don't see in an example, I'm stuck.  A lot
   >  > of what I do in my work is working with text files and manipulating
   >  > text.  A lot of awk, grep, sed, arrays and such.  Could anyone point
   >  > me to where to look to learn what I need to know to do these kinds of
   >  > things?
   >  >
   >  > I know questions like this sometimes raise the ire of the more
   >  > advanced list members on any list.  (One of my all-time favorite posts
   >  > on this or any list was when someone asked why this list was so quiet
   >  > and someone else responded "because we already know everything".)  
   >  > It's not my intention to start a fire-fight or anything, and I'm not
   >  > asking for anyone to teach me anything.  All I'm really hoping for is
   >  > for someone to explain to me the best way for me to teach myself how
   >  > to do this...
   >  >
   >  > Thanks in advance!
   >  > John Pavao
   >  >
   >  
   >  
   >  --
   >  *Robert Misior*
   >  Unix Systems Administrator/Programmer
   >  Salem Academy and College
   >  336.917.5460
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   >  
   >  
   >  
   >  
   >  Hello,
   >  
   >  I would say that it still all depends on what you are trying to do ( I
   >  guess knowing what is possible is the key)
   >  Here are some links that I  find useful: "C++ Beyond the Standard
   >  Library" http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2003/05/06/cplusplusian.html
   >  and this page has some usefully links: http://www.thefreecountry.com/sourcecode/cpp.shtml
   >  If you are interested in GUI development I would recommend Qt http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/index.html
   >  it is a lot more then just a GUI API, reminds me a lot of java :) with
   >  many standard objects. Or a pure open source GUI API  http://www.wxwindows.org/
   >  If you are interested in graphics there is the classic OpenGL, or game
   >  development SDL http://www.libsdl.org/index.php
   >  (these two are C API but you can use them from C++)
   >  
   >  I'm also interested to see what will other members of this list 
   >  recommend.
   >  
   >  Hope this helps,
   >  Robert
   >  
   >  
   >  
   >  Pavao, John C. wrote:
   >  
   >  
   >  
   >  
   >  Since no mailing list is really complete without
   >  the occasional idiot newbie question...  :-)
   >  
   >  I've been lurking this list for several months
   >  because I'm trying to teach myself C++, but I certainly admit the list
   >  is out of my league. 
   >  As for trying to learn C++, I'm only able to get so
   >  far when it comes to applying what I'm learning to real world
   >  situations because I seem to be missing something important.  I haven't
   >  figured out how to know learn what to use in a given situation.  I do a
   >  lot of UNIX shell scripting, and I'll often find myself saying, "ok, if
   >  this were a shell script, I'd use the suchandsuch command", but I don't
   >  know what to do in C++.  I haven't found a good way to learn what's in
   >  specific libraries and how to use what's there.  I've come up with a
   >  pile of simple working programs based on examples I've seen, but when I
   >  get to wanting to do something I don't see in an example, I'm stuck.  A
   >  lot of what I do in my work is working with text files and manipulating
   >  text.  A lot of awk, grep, sed, arrays and such.  Could anyone point me
   >  to where to look to learn what I need to know to do these kinds of
   >  things?
   >  I know questions like this sometimes raise the ire
   >  of the more advanced list members on any list.  (One of my all-time
   >  favorite posts on this or any list was when someone asked why this list
   >  was so quiet and someone else responded "because we already know
   >  everything".)  It's not my intention to start a fire-fight or anything,
   >  and I'm not asking for anyone to teach me anything.  All I'm really
   >  hoping for is for someone to explain to me the best way for me to teach
   >  myself how to do this...
   >  Thanks in advance!
   >  
   >  John Pavao
   >  
   >  
   >  
   >  
   >  --
   >  Robert Misior
   >  Unix Systems Administrator/Programmer
   >  Salem Academy and College
   >  336.917.5460
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