[Linux-aus] Stemformatics application for the Linux Australia Grants Scheme

Linux Australia President president at linux.org.au
Wed Apr 19 15:50:25 AEST 2017


Hi everyone,

This is a courtesy note to indicate that Linux Australia Council
considered this Grant Application at Council Meeting 13th April.

We discussed this Grant Application, but we are undecided on whether to
grant it,  and would like to seek further information around the dataset
licensing and platform licensing, specifically the actual licenses that
will be applied.

Rowland, are you able to indicate this information?

Kind regards,

Kathy


On 01/04/17 09:05, Rowland Mosbergen wrote:
> Hi Russell,
>
> That question about dataset licensing is very good one that I have not
> thought of before.  Going forward I will do some research about where
> we are getting our data from and their licensing and choose a data
> license for our processed data and make it explicit on the website.
>
> All software will be put into a public bitbucket account alongside our
> current Stemformatics software.
>
> I can also see your point about /"Is there a risk that access to the
> curated data needed for the //application might be removed at some
> future time?"/. The processed data would be in the tens of TBs so
> would not be able to fit in github/bitbucket. This data will be
> treated the same as other research data as it will be hosted on NeCTAR
> / RDS services. The chances of that data being removed without
> oversight in the future would be greatly reduced  compared to hosting
> it on a commercial platform.
>
> Thanks again for your input Russell, I hope that I have answered your
> questions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rowland
>
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> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Russell Coker <russell at coker.com.au
> <mailto:russell at coker.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 5:46:12 PM AEDT Rowland Mosbergen wrote:
>     > Dear Linux Australia Council members and community,
>     >
>     > I would like to make a grant application for the Linux Australia
>     Grants
>     > Scheme on behalf of Stemformatics.
>     >
>     > You can view the application as a pdf (attached) or a link (below):
>     >
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Hjv6EC6GA2A6_DQcOjv7zqubt96nBaqoV7YbeUN
>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Hjv6EC6GA2A6_DQcOjv7zqubt96nBaqoV7YbeUN>
>     > CJg/edit?usp=sharing
>     >
>     > I only recently realised that I need to be a member of Linux
>     Australia to
>     > quality for this grant. I did apply on the 27th of March 2017 to
>     fulfil
>     > this criteria.
>     >
>     > Please let me know if any extra information is needed for this
>     application.
>
>     I think this is a very worthy project and the amount of money
>     requested seems
>     reasonable given the expected return.  But I have some concerns about
>     licensing and source access.
>
>     The PDF states that you will "create all of these under an open
>     source license
>     (Apache License, Version 2.0)".  What about the license of the
>     datasets that
>     you are using?  It's implied that you are getting them from other
>     organisations, do they have licenses that are compatible or are
>     you receiving
>     a license grant from those organisations that permits
>     redistributing the
>     bundle under the Apache license?  I expect that you will have
>     sorted this out
>     somehow, but I would like it made clear.
>
>     For the software that is produced, will you put it in a public
>     repository like
>     Github?  How big is the data?  Can the data fit in github or some
>     other public
>     repository?  Is there a risk that access to the curated data
>     needed for the
>     application might be removed at some future time?
>
>     Finally if this grant application is approved I suggest that we
>     make a further
>     offer of travel expenses if one of the developers of this project
>     is accepted
>     as a speaker at an LCA miniconf.  The general practice is that
>     speakers at the
>     main conference may be offered travel expenses from the LCA budget
>     but not for
>     miniconf speakers.  I think that we should make it a standard
>     practice that a
>     miniconf speaker who is speaking about work performed under an LA
>     grant should
>     be offered a further grant towards travel expenses from anywhere
>     in Australia
>     or NZ.
>
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