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<p>Hi everyone, <br>
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<p>This is a courtesy note to indicate that Linux Australia Council
considered this Grant Application at Council Meeting 13th April. <br>
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<p>We discussed this Grant Application, but we are undecided on
whether to grant it, and would like to seek further information
around the dataset licensing and platform licensing, specifically
the actual licenses that will be applied. <br>
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<p>Rowland, are you able to indicate this information?</p>
<p>Kind regards, <br>
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<p>Kathy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/04/17 09:05, Rowland Mosbergen
wrote:<br>
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<div>That question about dataset licensing is very good one that
I have not thought of before. Going forward I will do some
research about where we are getting our data from and their
licensing and choose a data license for our processed data and
make it explicit on the website.</div>
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<div>All software will be put into a public bitbucket account
alongside our current Stemformatics software.</div>
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<div>I can also see your point about <i>"<span
style="font-size:12.8px">Is there a risk that access to
the curated data needed for the </span></i><i
style="font-size:12.8px">application might be removed at
some future time?"</i><span style="font-size:12.8px">. The
processed data would be in the tens of TBs so would not be
able to fit in github/bitbucket. This data will be treated
the same as other research data as it will be hosted on
NeCTAR / RDS services. The chances of that data being
removed without oversight in the future would be greatly
reduced compared to hosting it on a commercial platform.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Thanks again for your input
Russell, I hope that I have answered your questions.</span></div>
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Department of
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Faculty of
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:37 PM,
Russell Coker <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:russell@coker.com.au" target="_blank">russell@coker.com.au</a>></span>
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class="">On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 5:46:12 PM AEDT
Rowland Mosbergen wrote:<br>
> Dear Linux Australia Council members and community,<br>
><br>
> I would like to make a grant application for the
Linux Australia Grants<br>
> Scheme on behalf of Stemformatics.<br>
><br>
> You can view the application as a pdf (attached) or
a link (below):<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Hjv6EC6GA2A6_DQcOjv7zqubt96nBaqoV7YbeUN"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/15Hjv6EC6GA2A6_<wbr>DQcOjv7zqubt96nBaqoV7YbeUN</a><br>
> CJg/edit?usp=sharing<br>
><br>
> I only recently realised that I need to be a member
of Linux Australia to<br>
> quality for this grant. I did apply on the 27th of
March 2017 to fulfil<br>
> this criteria.<br>
><br>
> Please let me know if any extra information is
needed for this application.<br>
<br>
</span>I think this is a very worthy project and the
amount of money requested seems<br>
reasonable given the expected return. But I have some
concerns about<br>
licensing and source access.<br>
<br>
The PDF states that you will "create all of these under an
open source license<br>
(Apache License, Version 2.0)". What about the license of
the datasets that<br>
you are using? It's implied that you are getting them
from other<br>
organisations, do they have licenses that are compatible
or are you receiving<br>
a license grant from those organisations that permits
redistributing the<br>
bundle under the Apache license? I expect that you will
have sorted this out<br>
somehow, but I would like it made clear.<br>
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For the software that is produced, will you put it in a
public repository like<br>
Github? How big is the data? Can the data fit in github
or some other public<br>
repository? Is there a risk that access to the curated
data needed for the<br>
application might be removed at some future time?<br>
<br>
Finally if this grant application is approved I suggest
that we make a further<br>
offer of travel expenses if one of the developers of this
project is accepted<br>
as a speaker at an LCA miniconf. The general practice is
that speakers at the<br>
main conference may be offered travel expenses from the
LCA budget but not for<br>
miniconf speakers. I think that we should make it a
standard practice that a<br>
miniconf speaker who is speaking about work performed
under an LA grant should<br>
be offered a further grant towards travel expenses from
anywhere in Australia<br>
or NZ.<br>
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