[Linux-aus] Photos at conferences

Chris Neugebauer chrisjrn at gmail.com
Wed Jan 22 15:00:14 EST 2014

In which case, here's a serious suggestion:

Anyone who wants to produce a summary of recommendations from this
thread so far can do so. Send it to me. I'll take it seriously: the
original point raised in this thread is an issue that deserves
consideration. There are many valid considerations raised in the
thread. I'll table any actual recommendations derived for council as
something that policy can be developed around.

At this point I'm on the record as saying that I think LA conferences
would benefit from a photography policy as part of broader
code-of-conduct issues. This doesn't reflect any view taken by the
council, but it is something I'd like to take to council.

If you think the issue is worth developing policy around, then
consider this: we need to be able to read what's already on record and
develop policy around that. Every extra "contribution" to the thread
makes it even harder to assess what's worth actually considering.

If you argue technicalities or slippery-slope consequences of others'
ideas, you're just creating noise, which make it hard to find other
suggestions that have actual merit.

So, if you think there's a case for policy to be developed, consider
whether you could produce an *actual recommendation*, or whether you
should just remain quiet.

This thread is more-or-less beyond the point where we're likely to
produce any further useful recommendations.


On 22 January 2014 14:05, Russell Coker <russell at coker.com.au> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2014, Chris Neugebauer <chrisjrn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Let's try again here...
>> On 22 Jan 2014 13:38, "Peter Lawler" <linux-aus at bleeter.id.au> wrote:
>> > I would suggest that if a 'no photo' sticker, or similar indicator,
>> > policy was implemented, there is
>> Look, I'm pretty sure the Nazis also used visible identifiers on people as
>> well.
>> </Godwin>
> Deliberately trying to invoke Godwin's law to shut down a discussion that you
> don't like isn't clever, it isn't good for the community, and it just doesn't
> work.
> Chris, I'm surprised that you are trying such things.  Your contributions to
> this list and the Linux community in general are usually so much better.
> Unfortunately some readers of this list might take you seriously and not
> realise that you are playing games here.  So I have to address your point.
> The Nazi badges you refer to were imposed on people against their will and
> used to discriminate against them - often used to determine who to murder.
> That is totally unlike the use of conference badge notes that are used by
> willing people to request that they be treated in the way that they desire.
> You are correct that you are violating the Godwin rule, that doesn't mean that
> the discussion should be shut down.  It merely means that your "contribution"
> should end.
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