[Linux-aus] Seeking feedback - EFA Citizens Not Suspects campaign
bret at busby.net
Thu Jun 13 14:30:25 EST 2013
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Glen Turner wrote:
> On 13/06/13 03:24, Bret Busby wrote:
>> What happens, when, because of the assumed support by Linux Australia,
>> for the "security measures", by the silence and lack of support by Linux
>> Australia, for opposition to the Internet Oppression, the web site and
>> mailing lists, and, possibly, the organisation itself, of Linux
>> Australia, are each shut down, by ASIC or otherwise by the oppressive
>> federal parliament, for not being sufficiently obsequious?
> I think in seeking a parallel with the Gestapo that you strain to make a
> convincing analogy.
I didn't think that I made reference to the Gestapo.
It is probably more like the Spanish Inquisition.
And, we should remember, that "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!".
The actions of the Australian federal parliament, and, the USA White
House, appear more like (although, since you raise, specifically, the
Gestapo, I probably, now that it has been raised, would be disinclined
to exclude it) the Big Brother of George Orwell's 1984, the security
entities in "V For Vendetta", that went rounding up homosexuals and
dissidents, as they were both regarded as threats to the security of the
state, and, the Greater London Council, in relation to the Noddy
stories, and the member of the British Parliament, in relation to the
Teletubbies, and, I think either the Gretaer London Council, and/or the
British Parliament, in relation to the Enid Blighton literary works,
where they each regarded these works as threats to national security and
to the structure of British society.
And, given that, in Australia, we have the government departments and
java, to access the functionality of their web sites, so as to
eliminate the security and privacy of computer users in Australia, an
organisation such as Linux Australia, which is supposedly about open
source software, and, free software, could be determined to be a threat
to the establishment, and, therefore, have "men in black suits with
black sunglasses", beating down the doors, and, "disappearing" people.
I believe that the "disappearing" of people, was an activity of some
South American (and, of other countries) governments, when the
activitites of the people that were "disappeared", were "inconsistent
with the objectives of the government".
So, Linux Australia, itslef, could be at risk.
And, not just from the Gestapo.
We do not know how many "intelligence" and "security" agencies exist, in
either Australia or the USA, or, the full nature of their activities,
other than that they apparently operate without any restrictions or
accountability, relating to their activities.
The USA NSA is an interesting example, especially with the content of
the movie "Mercury Rising", before which, I had not heard of the USA
And, with the activities that have been recently uncovered, with anyone
who reveals the truth, being declared "an enemy of the state", and
hunted down, wherever they may be in the world.
And, in case anyone thinks that this all seems just a bit too paranoid,
such people should remember the famous quote;
"Just because you are paranoid, does not mean that someone is not out to
In these times, when human rights are banned, and, when governments and
their agencies, are unaccountable, the people are quite entitled to be
And, Linux Australia, is not exempt from the acts of oppression.
After all, what Linux Australia is said to be about, "is not consistent
with the objectives of the state", and, is certainly not consistent
with the objectives of the USA government, of which the Australian
federal government appears to be an agency.
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
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