[Linux-aus] Seeking feedback - EFA Citizens Not Suspects campaign

Bret Busby bret at busby.net
Sun Jun 9 17:50:39 EST 2013

On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Bret Busby wrote:

> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 12:23:00
> From: Bret Busby <bret at busby.net>
> To: linux-aus at linux.org.au
> Cc: jlawrence at efa.org.au
> Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Seeking feedback - EFA Citizens Not Suspects campaign
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2013, Linux Australia Secretary wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 09:06:21
>> From: Linux Australia Secretary <secretary at linux.org.au>
>> To: linux-aus at linux.org.au
>> Cc: jlawrence at efa.org.au
>> Subject: [Linux-aus] Seeking feedback - EFA Citizens Not Suspects campaign
>> Hi everyone,
>> From time to time, Linux Australia is approached by various organisations 
>> to seek support for campaigns or initiatives. Many of these fall into the 
>> category of grants and sponsorship - cf. the recent work we have been doing 
>> with the Australian Internet Governance Forum and GovHack. In this case, 
>> we've been approached to support a political campaign being run by 
>> Electronic Frontiers Australia called 'Citizens not suspects'. We warmly 
>> welcome the approach from EFA, and now would like to gauge community 
>> feedback to help guide our support actions.
>> The essence of the Citizens not suspects campaign is to oppose, and bring 
>> to bear political pressure, to reject a number of proposals currently 
>> before parliament, including;
>> * a proposal for *mandatory retention of data* relating to the
>>   internet and telecommunications activity of all Australians for up
>>   to two years. This data could include records of your phone calls,
>>   your location, the websites you visit, the searches you make and who
>>   you send emails to and who you receive them from.
>> *   a proposal to make it a crime to *refuse to provide authorities
>>   with passwords* for encrypted communications, which could include
>>   your email, as well as your Facebook and other accounts.
>> * a proposal to give ASIO the power to *add, modify or delete files on
>>   any computer.*
>> *http://www.citizensnotsuspects.org.au/
>> *
>> Specifically, we are seeking feedback on;
>> 1. The level of comfort in the community in taking a specific political 
>> position against the proposals
>> 2. The type and level of support you believe it would be appropriate to 
>> provide - such as financial, in kind through raising awareness etc, 
>> utilising the #DataRetention hashtag etc
>> 3. Any other feedback you may wish to provide
>> Feedback may be sent to list - if you're comfortable with it being made 
>> public, or privately to myself.
>> Please indicate if you would like your feedback kept in confidence and I 
>> will not disclose the source of feedback.
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts and advice,
>> Kind regards,
>> Kathy
>> on behalf of Council
>> -- 
>> Kathy Reid
>> Secretary
>> Linux Australia
>> secretary at linux.org.au
>> http://linux.org.au
>> Linux Australia Inc
>> GPO Box 4788
>> Sydney NSW 2001
>> Australia
>> ABN 56 987 117 479
> Hello.
> It is my uderstanding that the "proposals" above, have already been 
> implemented, especially the ASIO thing; a few years ago, it was 
> announced/reported that  (then) new legislation allowed ASIO to enter 
> anyone's computer without permission, modify (including adding) data, and 
> then denying that they had done anything to the person's computer, which 
> makes all of the prosecutions where people have stuff on their computer, that 
> theyu should not have, be it manuals on how to blow up parliament or rob 
> banks, or sex pictures or videos of children and other offensive material, 
> fraudulent prosecutions.
> In all of this, we are just the plebs, with no say in what the unaacountable 
> parliaments, do to us.
> A significant part of all of this, is the ban that was imposed by the federal 
> parliament, in conjunction (/conspiracy?) with the Roman Catholic Church, 
> some years ago, to ban human rights in Australia.
> As a person who took part in a local forum of, and, made a formal submission 
> to, the "Australian Human Rights Consultation Committee", some years ago, 
> only to find the result from the committee, headed by the Roman Catholic 
> Church, and endorsed by the ALP/Greens federal government (not that the LNP 
> would be any better in this respect), that "Australia has no need for human 
> rights legislation", so, effectively, human rights are banned in Australia, 
> which is why freedom of expression and freedom of political association are 
> not rights in Australia, but, apparently, whilst bikie gangs can be, and, 
> are, outlawed, purely for the sake of megalomania of the parliaments and 
> police forces, the biggest organisation involved in the activity of raping 
> children, is never banned or outlawed, being so powerful as to control 
> governments, we have no reasonable hope of achieving any form of human 
> rights, or, any protections of our data or of our communications or of our 
> computers.
> You may also remember, a few years ago, when the cheque processing of all 
> cheques drawn on Australian banks, went offshore, to the USA, that all data 
> associated with Australian cheques, became subject to the USA Patriot Act, so 
> that the USA president and his heads of "intelligence" organisations, could 
> get their jollies, reading who any Australian was writing a cheque to, and, 
> in the news in the last week, at the order of the USA president, obama, the 
> human rights violator, all communications going through Skype, Facebook, 
> Twitty, AOL, etc, are being watched by the USA government agencies, and, 
> phone calls made to and from the USA, and, outside the USA, are being 
> monitored by USA government agencies, for the amusement of the voyeuristic 
> USA president and his associate voyeurs.

And now, the NSW state government has apparently sold the NSW 
schoolchildren to the White House as playthings to amuse the 
perversions of the White House and its Staff; at

SafeGov survey finds parents want to ban online data tracking in schools
By Katie Silver
Posted June 09, 2013 16:30:27

A national survey has revealed parents overwhelming object to their 
children's data being tracked by private companies.

About 1,000 parents participated in the survey about online privacy in 
schools which was commissioned by SafeGov - an organisation that 
promotes the safe use of cloud computing.

The research found that four in five Australian parents want a ban on 
data tracking in schools to protect their kids from online advertising.

More than 90 per cent of surveyed parents were against online data 
tracking in schools.

The Australian Council of State School Organisations (ACSSO) has used 
the survey results to call for tougher protection measures to be put in 

The call comes after the Department of Education made a deal with Google 
to provide cloud computing, apps and email to New South Wales students.

ACSSO's president Peter Garrigan says much of the danger lies in how the 
data will be used in the future.

"Our young people - their privacy is being invaded," he said.

"Their data is being stored, it is going into the cloud and what is 
going to happen once they finish school."

Mother Cecila Shelgel says the Education Department is not upholding its 

"I feel as if the Education Department is moving away from taking 
responsibility from protecting my child's privacy online and abdicating 
that to an external commercial organisation," she said.

"I would much prefer that the school system retain that responsibility." 

No doubt, material like love letters and other communications between 
the students, will be used to blackmail them into spying for the White 
House, or its agencies, in later years.

And, it needs to be remembered, with state governments selling children 
to overseas powers, that google is subject to the USA Patriot Act, so 
all communications and material relating to the NSW schoolchildren, will 
be able to be freely accessed by the perverts in the USA "intelligence" 
and "security" agencies, leading to the president of the USA being 
briefed as to what NSW school student is having what kind of 
relationship with what other person, and, the latest school gossip, as 
matters of urgent national security of the USA.

Bret Busby
West Australia

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
  you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
   written by Douglas Adams,
   published by Pan Books, 1992

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