[Linux-aus] Things not to post to planet linux australia

[Matthew Lye]

Russell is quite right on this. You can ask someone not to post links to the
list, but you cannot ask someone not to post links that are on a list that
we are not supposed to look at. Effectively a request to not post something
the 'might' be on a list you cant see can be safely ignored. That being said
If someone posts child pornography links I will help them on their way to
jail myself.

The only way anyone could arrange for people not to post links (or comments)
on the entirety of the list would be to implement the list, or list what
people cannot post, effectively violating the list anyway.

Kinda a redundant idea all round... after all the first rule of blacklist is
you cannot talk about blacklist.

You can do anything you set your mind to when you have vision,
determination, and and endless supply of expendable labor.

<No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great number of
electrons were terribly inconvenienced>


On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Russell Stuart <
russell-linuxaus at stuart.id.au> wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 15:33 +1100, Andy White wrote:
> > It's generally considered bad form to put your ISP at risk
> > unnecessarily.
> >
> > You say that LA should show some more spine on this issue - why?
>
> Because it is simply not possibly to comply with the law as it is
> written.  The list is a government secret.  You are not supposed to know
> whether whether a site is blacklisted or not.  For example, did you know
> the ACMA has taken to blacklist sites that have the Hansen photos?
>
> So it is not possible to avoid putting your ISP at risk.  Or LA at risk.
> So now you are apparently arguing LA should censor discussion of a set
> of laws that put LA at risk of unknowing transgressing them.
>
> Just to make it absolutely obvious: I would like to post the Hansen link
> that ACMA has banned.  I can't.  You can't check it out for yourself and
> avoid similar images.  Perhaps it already has been blogged about by
> someone on planet when it was a hot topic.  Perhaps the banned link has
> already been posted to planet.  Tell me, how are you going to find out
> if planet.linux.org.au is _already_ at risk.
>
> Frankly Andy, avoiding discussions like this seems downright dangerous.
> Come to that, attempting to thought police any topic people are trying
> to reason about and understand important issues is downright dangerous.
>
>
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