[Lias] RE OSS Art/Graphics Apps in Schools

Fri Feb 13 09:46:02 UTC 2004

Hi Leon and Jonathon

Thanks for those tips, I am getting a good list of apps quite quickly now.  
To optimise the use of these apps, ie graphics modelling, vector drawing 
etc, what sort of hardware minimum would be required?

Also are these apps regulalry developed like the GIMP is?

Cheers, Ben

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>    1. Hi and Query Re GNU/Linux Project in Public High School, Darwin, NT, 
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>NT, AU (Leon Brooks)
>    3. Re: Hi and Query Re GNU/Linux Project in Public High
>        School, Darwin, NT, AU (Jonathon Coombes)
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>Hi All.
>
>My name is Ben and I am a member of my local LUG, the Darwin Linux Users
>Group, (www.darlug.org). I was fortunate to be sponsored by Sun 
>Microsystems
>Australia to attend the LCA 2004 and had a great time. Since returning to
>Darwin, the Nothern Territory, I have been thinking of a suitable project 
>to
>introduce a version of GNU/Linux into a local high school.
>
>My daughter attends a public high school which is currently MS vendor
>supported and configured. I am interested in getting a stand alone box,
>air-gapped (initially) from the school LAN with either RedHat or The Java
>Desktop System from Sun. The whole concept is to provide an alternative
>platform for students to experience graphics/art and other digital media 
>and
>to provide a stable 'sandbox' for them to play with, without having the
>issue of trashing a school funded system or box.
>
>Although the school has an Apple Macinstosh lab for graphics and Adobe
>Photoshop & Illustrator on the Win system, there is no ability to the
>students to get a copy of the software they use at school and load it onto
>their home PCs, thus limiting their potential to really explore and learn.
>
>While obviously The Gimp is not currently as sophisticated as some of the
>other vendors applications, it is capable with experience of very high
>quality effects and obviously is virtually, free.
>
>Has anyone heard of another person or organisation doing a similar type
>project, either here (AU) or elsewhere? I feel that some kids at this 
>school
>may be missing out exposure to alternative and equally effective
>applications, due to financial constraints and the lack of publicity by the
>OSS Community.
>
>I have spoken to the school ICT Coordinator, who is very interested in such
>a project. Any help, comments or criticism gratefully welcomed.
>
>Regards, Ben
>
>Ben Minton
>Darwin, Australia
>benminton at hotmail.com
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>On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 10:06, Ben Minton wrote:
> > While obviously The Gimp is not currently as sophisticated as some of
> > the other vendors applications, it is capable with experience of very
> > high quality effects and obviously is virtually, free.
>
>I would recomend GIMP 2 (current -pre2?) as it is closer to PhotoShop in
>appearance, and much more capable in many little ways than GIMP 1.2
>ever was.
>
>Also... http://cyberknights.com.au/ps7-2.png
>
>Handing out copies of the GnuWin2 CD is good juju in Microsoft-land, but
>I don't think they have the latest-greatest GIMP on there yet.
>
>Some of the graphics teachers might explore GIMP as an
>alternate/variant/comparison to teach children that yes, there *is*
>more than PhotoShop and a few of those will wind up using *just* GIMP
>in some labs because it's more than good enough and doesn't cost limbs.
>
>Cheers; Leon
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>On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 12:36, Ben Minton wrote:
> > Although the school has an Apple Macinstosh lab for graphics and Adobe
> > Photoshop & Illustrator on the Win system, there is no ability to the
> > students to get a copy of the software they use at school and load it 
>onto
> > their home PCs, thus limiting their potential to really explore and 
>learn.
> >
> > While obviously The Gimp is not currently as sophisticated as some of 
>the
> > other vendors applications, it is capable with experience of very high
> > quality effects and obviously is virtually, free.
> >
> > Has anyone heard of another person or organisation doing a similar type
> > project, either here (AU) or elsewhere? I feel that some kids at this 
>school
> > may be missing out exposure to alternative and equally effective
> > applications, due to financial constraints and the lack of publicity by 
>the
> > OSS Community.
>
>Hi Ben,
>
>We put together a cdrom for the art department at a high school. That
>was a bit more generic that just art programs, but we have come across
>a lot more programs that are quite nice in that field. The programs
>I would suggest looking at are:
>
>* GIMP 2	Photoshop type
>* SodiPodi	Vector drawing like Illustrator
>* Inkscape	Simplified interface from SodiPodi
>* Autotrace	Convert raster to vector diagrams
>* ImageMagik	For just about anything :)
>* Blender3d	3D modelling and animation
>* Cinellera	Video Editing and Production
>* GPhoto2	Digital Camera interface and picture manipulation
>
>Regards
>Jonathon
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