[Lias] Re: [qsite-lan_qsite_edu_au] Re: rpm error

Simon Bryan sbryan at olmc.nsw.edu.au
Fri Nov 14 09:11:02 UTC 2003


Paul Gear said:
> (Copying this to the LIAS list to see if anyone else can help us with
> the general issue of Red Hat's failure to allow for us small folks in
> their "brave new world".  Please don't use the "switch to Debian" (or
> another community-supported distro) answer.  :-)
>
> Simon Bryan wrote:
>> Paul Gear said:
>>
>>> Simon Bryan wrote:
>>>
>>>> ... First of all 7.2 is pretty old, why not upgrade to at least
>>>> 9? If upgrading or installing fresh select to install
>>>> everything that way you don't have any dependency issues
>>>
>>> I wouldn't be recommending to upgrade any Red Hat systems until
>>> they come up with an appropriate product for us .edu types.  As
>>> it stands, RHL9 reaches end-of-life in April, and there is no
>>> product replacing it.  You can either switch to the free,
>>> bleeding-edge Fedora Project, or pay $$$ for RHEL.  (See
>>> http://fedora.redhat.com/about/rhel for details.)
>>
>>
>> Can't agree totally here, RH9 is a good product for us and has
>> proved to be reliable and stable.
>
> I've been using RHL since 4.2.  I know how reliable and stable it is,
> but that's not what i'm talking about.  I was saying i wouldn't be
> recommending to *upgrade* any Red Hat systems due to the fact that
> you'll have to do it again in less than 6 months due to the RHL9 EoL.

OK, I conced that point


>> I do know about the end-of-life of all RH products (I believe 7 has
>>  already expired). From what I have read Fedora seems to be RH
>> under another name, but then so is Mandrake in amny ways. I am
>> considering the RHEL concept as the money managers are happier
>> paying for support and updates than getting it for free!!
>> (Suspicous types).
>
> Have you seen the pricing?  I just rang them, and got quoted the
> following pricing (ex. tax.):
>
> - Professional Workstation (12 month lifecycle, no guaranteed
> updates): $99
>
> - RHEL WS Standard Edition (5 year guaranteed updates, support
> contract): $499
>
> - RHEL ES Basic Edition (5 year guaranteed updates, RHN only): $545
>
> They offer no educational discounts.  I don't know about you, but the
> first would not be appropriate for our systems (due to the lack of
> guaranteed security updates), and the next two are close to the cost
> of our server hardware over a 4-year period.

Are they per year? per 5 years? per server?



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Simon Bryan
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OLMC Parramatta



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