[Linux-aus] Notice of Linux Australia 2023 Annual General Meeting (AGM)

[Nicholas Perkins]

On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, 8:18 pm Paul Wayper via linux-aus, <
linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:

> On 10/1/23 2:59 pm, Kathy Reid via linux-aus wrote:
>
> No.
>
> Holding professional events outside of business hours makes it difficult
> for people who have caring requirements - who are often women - to attend
> those events. This is often a barrier to participation for people becoming
> involved in organisations, for networking, and for professional
> development.
>
> Hi Kathy,
>
> While your passion for equality is noble, I'm wondering whether in this
> particular context its well placed.
>
I'm not sure your response could be more patronising.

> What would you say was the proportion of women in the Linux Australia
> membership?
>
Why should this matter? Shouldn't events and meetings be held at times that
enable as many people of any gender to attend?

> In the past the AGM has often been held after 5:30PM on the Monday of
> LCA.  Is this also something you expect to change to accommodate women
> carers?  It's strange that we haven't heard from you on this yet.
>
Until recently it was difficult for me to be away from home for extended
periods due to carer responsibilities. Many carers are not women.

> Since 2:30PM on a Saturday would also expect to see carers at home - is
> that time and date also a problem in your opinion?
>
> I think the time and date is the best accommodation to the fact that - at
> a rough guess, just from looking around at some of the previous AGMs - most
> of our membership are full-time workers that are still working, and this is
> more likely to find them at home and at a time where they can more easily
> juggle their family and other commitments.  I'm wondering if you see it
> that way?
>
Here's the sad bit. I agree with some of your points here. If perhaps you
hadn't taken to responding in what can only be seen as a patronising and
misogynistic fashion...

> As we've seen, Craige still has carer commitments at this time and he's
> given his respectful apologies.  Sadly, we can't accommodate everyone, can
> we?
>
Regards,
>
> Paul
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