<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, 8:18 pm Paul Wayper via linux-aus, <<a href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au">linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 10/1/23 2:59 pm, Kathy Reid via
linux-aus wrote:<br>
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Holding professional events outside of business hours makes it
difficult for people who have caring requirements - who are often
women - to attend those events. This is often a barrier to
participation for people becoming involved in organisations, for
networking, and for professional development.
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<p>Hi Kathy,</p>
<p>While your passion for equality is noble, I'm wondering whether
in this particular context its well placed.</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">I'm not sure your response could be more patronising. </div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>What would you say was the proportion of women in the Linux
Australia membership?</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">Why should this matter? Shouldn't events and meetings be held at times that enable as many people of any gender to attend? </div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>In the past the AGM has often been held after 5:30PM on the
Monday of LCA. Is this also something you expect to change to
accommodate women carers? It's strange that we haven't heard from
you on this yet.</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">Until recently it was difficult for me to be away from home for extended periods due to carer responsibilities. Many carers are not women. </div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>Since 2:30PM on a Saturday would also expect to see carers at
home - is that time and date also a problem in your opinion?</p>
<p>I think the time and date is the best accommodation to the fact
that - at a rough guess, just from looking around at some of the
previous AGMs - most of our membership are full-time workers that
are still working, and this is more likely to find them at home
and at a time where they can more easily juggle their family and
other commitments. I'm wondering if you see it that way?</p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">Here's the sad bit. I agree with some of your points here. If perhaps you hadn't taken to responding in what can only be seen as a patronising and misogynistic fashion... </div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>As we've seen, Craige still has carer commitments at this time
and he's given his respectful apologies. Sadly, we can't
accommodate everyone, can we?<br></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Paul<br>
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