[Linux-aus] REMINDER - Discussion on Linux Australia Grant requests is happening on a separate list this year

Sun May 27 21:45:24 AEST 2018

This is also ignoring the fact that I replied to Noel's email on the same afternoon that it was sent, outlining the rationale for the decision: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2018-May/023384.html

And the fact that the grants list is public - http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/grants/

If there was a conspiracy, I'd rather like to think we would be better at it honestly.

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Sent: Sunday, 27 May 2018 9:28 PM
To: Noel Butler; linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au
Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] REMINDER - Discussion on Linux Australia Grant requests is happening on a separate list this year

Hi Noel, I overlooked your email; it wasn't a conspiracy.

The Council decided on a separate list after receiving feedback from some members of Linux Australia that while they wanted to have input into Grant Requests, they did *not* want to subscribe to the linux-aus list, given its history of, shall we say, some conversations that have become very heated. Most of our actions for continual improvement are driven, not by some dark "ulterior motive", but a desire for genuinely incorporating community feedback into our processes and practices.

There's no secrecy at all, I've sent several communications to this list to say "hey, Grants List is over here".

Here it is again. In plain text. Unencrypted.

https://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/grants<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.linux.org.au%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fgrants&data=02%7C01%7C%7C3313217b220941a3220008d5c3c516c5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636630173619853793&sdata=9hzj2o0d4tFO06O5v7CR6Q2zN%2Fhno1NunnhH%2F%2B32qFA%3D&reserved=0>

Calling it "secrecy" is quite the strech, Noel ...

Regards,

Kathy

On 27/05/18 21:19, Noel Butler via linux-aus wrote:

so is the council executive going to answer my question?

Who decided on the separate list and why was it not put to the members.

This is a very low traffic list, and I doubt anyone here has complained, so I'd like to know why the secrecy and what was the motivation for this secret action

nobody else has mentioned it, but certainly I can not be the only person who thinks this is rather strange, adn that there may be ulterior motives involved.

On 05/05/2018 13:56, Noel Butler via linux-aus wrote:

On 04/05/2018 17:14, Linux Australia President via linux-aus wrote:

Hi everyone,

A quick courtesy note as a reminder that discussion on Grant requests is
happening on a separate list this year - enabling people who want to
have a say on Grant funding to just follow one list, and not have to
subscribe to linux-aus.

Subscribe at: http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/grants<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.linux.org.au%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fgrants&data=02%7C01%7C%7C3313217b220941a3220008d5c3c516c5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636630173619853793&sdata=F0zYtRhwWB3AKVA0YxE6AjSCPEpis%2FIbYHdvhIGG0kY%3D&reserved=0>

A special thanks to those who have already provided valuable feedback
and analysis on existing Grant requests - as always we welcome your
feedback and contributions.

Kind regards,

Kathy

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Why a separate list? Who decided the general membership doesn't need to know unless they subscribe to " yet another bloody list"  I must have missed that conversation on this list where members were complaining they did not want them here, after all its not like this is a high traffic volume list.

I think that decision (if taken in private) is reversed, but thats just me...

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