[Linux-aus] What Open Government can learn from us Open Source folks

Mon Mar 5 12:05:46 AEDT 2018

Hi David.

I much prefer you to "tell it how it is", so no offense taken.

If you send me your google id (gmail address) then you will be able to 
put your comments into the document (it will make it easier for me to 
address all feedback, and also allow you to see feedback others have 
been giving me - some of which is in line with what you are saying).

Thanks for the feedback,

Cameron

On 5/3/18 11:47 am, David Lloyd wrote:
>
> We request that:
>
>   * Government’s decision makers are armed with the authoritative
>     research and guides so they can confidently trust, select and then
>     defend collaborative strategies which are often non-intuitive and
>     indirect.
>   * Government places a greater emphasis on long term sustainability
>     over short term milestones.
>   * Government agencies place a greater emphasis on co-development and
>     care about the communities on whom they depend.
>   * Government smooths spending cycles and embraces agile development
>     methodologies.
>
> I’m not known for “beating around the bush” so don’t be offended, but:
>
>   * Is the above written to:
>      1. Win “Buzzword Bingo”; or
>      2. Convery something meaningful?
>   * Alternatively, it is really requesting the obvious…
>
> No Government agency, politician or decision maker will disagree with 
> any of the four points openly so it’s *not requesting something they 
> do not agree with* or *anything innovative*.
>
> Put more nicely, it’s a poor summary of some of the very good 
> recommendations within the letter.
>
> I’d be inclined to print out the recommendations from 1-13 and distil 
> them into no more than 3 points that will not win “buzzword bingo” but 
> will, instead, attract its readers to investigate the rest of the letter.
>
> Whoever wrote it obviously could but I might suggest they may be too 
> close to the subject matter.
>
> On the other hand, if the honest answer is “But we have to speak 
> buzzword bingo to get past the initial readers” then I could be wrong 
> here too.
>
> My 2c 😊
>
> DSL
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: linux-aus [mailto:linux-aus-bounces at lists.linux.org.au] On Behalf
>
> > Of Cameron Shorter via linux-aus
>
> > Sent: Sunday, 4 March 2018 4:27 PM
>
> > To: osgeo <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>; linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au
>
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] What Open Government can learn from us Open
>
> > Source folks
>
> >
>
> > Folks,
>
> >
>
> > Thanks to those of you who have reviewed the response to the proposed
>
> > Open Government National Action Plan. And I know a number of you are
>
> > planning to add more feedback this week. (In a nutshell: The response
>
> > explains Open Government needs to learn how to collaborate as
>
> > effectively as Open Source communities, and what government needs to
>
> > change to make this happen).
>
> >
>
> > OSIA folks and Linux Australia Council, I'm formally requesting that 
> this
>
> > letter be presented jointly by Open Source Industry Australia
>
> > (OSIA) and Linux Australia. What is involved in getting this permission?
>
> >
>
> > A status update:
>
> >
>
> > * The Linux Journal has offered to publish a piece on this. I'll be 
> reaching
>
> > out to other publications in the next couple of weeks to invite them to
>
> > publish too. (Suggestions of publications welcomed).
>
> >
>
> > * I've incorporated most changes suggested so far. I've had a couple of
>
> > people suggest a better introduction / exec summary - which I'll be
>
> > working on.
>
> >
>
> > * I'm hoping to collate all preliminary feedback within the next 2 weeks
>
> > (by ~ 16 March).
>
> >
>
> > * Deadline for delivery of our response is 30 March.
>
> >
>
> > Document is here:
>
> >
>
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JS 
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam39UHFOGHs/edit#>
>
> > o0Ueraam39UHFOGHs/edit# 
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam39UHFOGHs/edit#>
>
> >
>
> > Warm regards, Cameron
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 27/2/18 8:52 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
> > > The Australian Government has asked for feedback on how they are
>
> > going
>
> > > at Open Government, and I've started a draft response. I'm really keen
>
> > > to make sure that this response is well constructed because I think
>
> > > that if listened to, understood, and acted upon, then we can make a
>
> > > huge difference to the effectiveness of Open Government worldwide -
>
> > > and by extension, to Open Source as well.
>
> > >
>
> > > If you have a chance to read and provide review comments, I'd be very
>
> > > grateful. Email me directly to get review access.
>
> > >
>
> > > (It will take ~ 10 minutes to read. Longer if you take time to think
>
> > > about how things should be reworded and consider what is missing and
>
> > > should be included.)
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JS 
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam>
>
> > o0Ueraam 
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam>
>
> > > 39UHFOGHs/edit#heading=h.5zu4u4o3l7zi
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > Cameron Shorter
>
> > Technology Demystifier, Learnosity
>
> > Open Technologies Consultant
>
> >
>
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-- 
Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier, Learnosity
Open Technologies Consultant

M +61 (0) 419 142 254

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