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<p>Hi David. <br>
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<p>I much prefer you to "tell it how it is", so no offense taken.<br>
</p>
<p>If you send me your google id (gmail address) then you will be
able to put your comments into the document (it will make it
easier for me to address all feedback, and also allow you to see
feedback others have been giving me - some of which is in line
with what you are saying).</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback,</p>
<p>Cameron<br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/3/18 11:47 am, David Lloyd wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">We
request that:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li
style="color:black;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Government’s
decision makers are armed with the authoritative research
and guides so they can confidently trust, select and then
defend collaborative strategies which are often
non-intuitive and indirect. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li
style="color:black;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Government
places a greater emphasis on long term sustainability over
short term milestones.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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style="color:black;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Government
agencies place a greater emphasis on co-development and
care about the communities on whom they depend.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li
style="color:black;margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Government
smooths spending cycles and embraces agile development
methodologies.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I’m not known for “beating around the
bush” so don’t be offended, but:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm" type="disc">
<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">Is
the above written to:<o:p></o:p></li>
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo3">Win
“Buzzword Bingo”; or<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l2 level2 lfo3">Convery
something meaningful?<o:p></o:p></li>
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<li class="MsoPlainText" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">Alternatively,
it is really requesting the obvious…<o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">No Government agency, politician or
decision maker will disagree with any of the four points
openly so it’s <b>not requesting something they do not agree
with</b> or <b>anything innovative</b>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Put more nicely, it’s a poor summary of
some of the very good recommendations within the letter.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I’d be inclined to print out the
recommendations from 1-13 and distil them into no more than 3
points that will not win “buzzword bingo” but will, instead,
attract its readers to investigate the rest of the letter.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Whoever wrote it obviously could but I
might suggest they may be too close to the subject matter.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">On the other hand, if the honest answer
is “But we have to speak buzzword bingo to get past the
initial readers” then I could be wrong here too.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">My 2c <span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">DSL<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU" lang="EN-US">-----Original
Message-----</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU" lang="EN-US">From:
linux-aus [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:linux-aus-bounces@lists.linux.org.au">mailto:linux-aus-bounces@lists.linux.org.au</a>] On
Behalf</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU" lang="EN-US">Of Cameron
Shorter via linux-aus</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU" lang="EN-US">Sent:
Sunday, 4 March 2018 4:27 PM</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU" lang="EN-US">To: osgeo
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org"><discuss@lists.osgeo.org></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au">linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU" lang="EN-US">Subject: Re:
[Linux-aus] What Open Government can learn from us Open</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU" lang="EN-US">Source folks</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Folks,</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Thanks to those of you who have
reviewed the response to the proposed</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Open Government National Action
Plan. And I know a number of you are</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> planning to add more feedback this
week. (In a nutshell: The response</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> explains Open Government needs to
learn how to collaborate as</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> effectively as Open Source
communities, and what government needs to</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> change to make this happen).</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> OSIA folks and Linux Australia
Council, I'm formally requesting that this</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> letter be presented jointly by Open
Source Industry Australia</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> (OSIA) and Linux Australia. What is
involved in getting this permission?</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> A status update:</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> * The Linux Journal has offered to
publish a piece on this. I'll be reaching</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> out to other publications in the
next couple of weeks to invite them to</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> publish too. (Suggestions of
publications welcomed).</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> * I've incorporated most changes
suggested so far. I've had a couple of</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> people suggest a better
introduction / exec summary - which I'll be</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> working on.</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> * I'm hoping to collate all
preliminary feedback within the next 2 weeks</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> (by ~ 16 March).</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> * Deadline for delivery of our
response is 30 March.</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Document is here:</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam39UHFOGHs/edit#"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JS</span></a></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam39UHFOGHs/edit#"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
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o0Ueraam39UHFOGHs/edit#</span></a></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Warm regards, Cameron</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> On 27/2/18 8:52 am, Cameron Shorter
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > The Australian Government has
asked for feedback on how they are</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> going</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > at Open Government, and I've
started a draft response. I'm really keen</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > to make sure that this
response is well constructed because I think</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > that if listened to,
understood, and acted upon, then we can make a</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > huge difference to the
effectiveness of Open Government worldwide -</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > and by extension, to Open
Source as well.</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> ></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > If you have a chance to read
and provide review comments, I'd be very</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > grateful. Email me directly to
get review access.</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> ></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > (It will take ~ 10 minutes to
read. Longer if you take time to think</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > about how things should be
reworded and consider what is missing and</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> > should be included.)</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> ></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> ></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JS</span></a></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
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o0Ueraam</span></a></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> >
39UHFOGHs/edit#heading=h.5zu4u4o3l7zi</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> ></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> ></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> --</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Cameron Shorter</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Technology Demystifier, Learnosity</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Open Technologies Consultant</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> M +61 (0) 419 142 254</p>
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Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier, Learnosity
Open Technologies Consultant
M +61 (0) 419 142 254</pre>
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