[Linux-aus] Stemformatics application for the Linux Australia Grants Scheme

Wed Apr 19 16:15:10 AEST 2017

Hi Kathy,

I can confirm that for the datasets we will be using the CC BY-SA 4.0
license:
*https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/
<https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/>*

I can also confirm that for the code we will be using the Apache 2.0
license:
http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0

I would like to add that we are considering moving our code licensing from
an Apache 2.0 license to a GNU AGPLv3 or GNU GPLv3.  This may impact on
this particular piece of code in the near future.

Regards,

Rowland

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Rowland Mosbergen | Business Manager, Stemformatics
Wells Laboratory | Centre for Stem Cell Systems
Department of Anatomy and Neuroscience | Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry and
Health Sciences

Room 1.36, Level 1, Kenneth Myer Building
The University of Melbourne, Victoria 3010 Australia
T: +61 3 8344 6623 | E: rowland at stemformatics.org
W: www.stemformatics.org  | Skype: rowland.stemformatics

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On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Linux Australia President <
president at linux.org.au> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> This is a courtesy note to indicate that Linux Australia Council
> considered this Grant Application at Council Meeting 13th April.
>
> We discussed this Grant Application, but we are undecided on whether to
> grant it,  and would like to seek further information around the dataset
> licensing and platform licensing, specifically the actual licenses that
> will be applied.
>
> Rowland, are you able to indicate this information?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kathy
>
> On 01/04/17 09:05, Rowland Mosbergen wrote:
>
> Hi Russell,
>
> That question about dataset licensing is very good one that I have not
> thought of before.  Going forward I will do some research about where we
> are getting our data from and their licensing and choose a data license for
> our processed data and make it explicit on the website.
>
> All software will be put into a public bitbucket account alongside our
> current Stemformatics software.
>
> I can also see your point about *"Is there a risk that access to the
> curated data needed for the **application might be removed at some future
> time?"*. The processed data would be in the tens of TBs so would not be
> able to fit in github/bitbucket. This data will be treated the same as
> other research data as it will be hosted on NeCTAR / RDS services. The
> chances of that data being removed without oversight in the future would be
> greatly reduced  compared to hosting it on a commercial platform.
>
> Thanks again for your input Russell, I hope that I have answered your
> questions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rowland
>
> ------------
>
> Rowland Mosbergen | Business Manager, Stemformatics
> Wells Laboratory | Centre for Stem Cell Systems
> Department of Anatomy and Neuroscience | Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry
> and Health Sciences
>
> Room 1.36, Level 1, Kenneth Myer Building
> The University of Melbourne, Victoria 3010 Australia
> T: +61 3 8344 6623 | E: rowland at stemformatics.org
> W: www.stemformatics.org  | Skype: rowland.stemformatics
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> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Russell Coker <russell at coker.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 5:46:12 PM AEDT Rowland Mosbergen wrote:
>> > Dear Linux Australia Council members and community,
>> >
>> > I would like to make a grant application for the Linux Australia Grants
>> > Scheme on behalf of Stemformatics.
>> >
>> > You can view the application as a pdf (attached) or a link (below):
>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Hjv6EC6GA2A6_DQcOjv7zqu
>> bt96nBaqoV7YbeUN
>> > CJg/edit?usp=sharing
>> >
>> > I only recently realised that I need to be a member of Linux Australia
>> to
>> > quality for this grant. I did apply on the 27th of March 2017 to fulfil
>> > this criteria.
>> >
>> > Please let me know if any extra information is needed for this
>> application.
>>
>> I think this is a very worthy project and the amount of money requested
>> seems
>> reasonable given the expected return.  But I have some concerns about
>> licensing and source access.
>>
>> The PDF states that you will "create all of these under an open source
>> license
>> (Apache License, Version 2.0)".  What about the license of the datasets
>> that
>> you are using?  It's implied that you are getting them from other
>> organisations, do they have licenses that are compatible or are you
>> receiving
>> a license grant from those organisations that permits redistributing the
>> bundle under the Apache license?  I expect that you will have sorted this
>> out
>> somehow, but I would like it made clear.
>>
>> For the software that is produced, will you put it in a public repository
>> like
>> Github?  How big is the data?  Can the data fit in github or some other
>> public
>> repository?  Is there a risk that access to the curated data needed for
>> the
>> application might be removed at some future time?
>>
>> Finally if this grant application is approved I suggest that we make a
>> further
>> offer of travel expenses if one of the developers of this project is
>> accepted
>> as a speaker at an LCA miniconf.  The general practice is that speakers
>> at the
>> main conference may be offered travel expenses from the LCA budget but
>> not for
>> miniconf speakers.  I think that we should make it a standard practice
>> that a
>> miniconf speaker who is speaking about work performed under an LA grant
>> should
>> be offered a further grant towards travel expenses from anywhere in
>> Australia
>> or NZ.
>>
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