<div dir="ltr">Hi Kathy,<div><br></div><div>I can confirm that for the datasets we will be using the CC BY-SA 4.0 license:</div><div><font color="#1155cc"><u><a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/">https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/</a></u></font><br></div><div><br></div><div>I can also confirm that for the code we will be using the Apache 2.0 license:</div><div><a href="http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0" target="_blank">http://www.apache.org/<wbr>licenses/LICENSE-2.0</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I would like to add that we are considering moving our code licensing from an Apache 2.0 license to a GNU AGPLv3 or GNU GPLv3.  This may impact on this particular piece of code in the near future.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div style="font-size:12.8px">Regards,</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Rowland</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">------------</div><div style="font-size:small">                    <br><font color="#0b5394">Rowland Mosbergen | Business Manager, Stemformatics<br>Wells Laboratory | Centre for Stem Cell Systems<br>Department of Anatomy and Neuroscience | Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry and Health Sciences<br><br>Room 1.36, Level 1, Kenneth Myer Building<br>The University of Melbourne, Victoria 3010 Australia<br>T: +61 3 8344 6623 | E: <a href="mailto:rowland@stemformatics.org" target="_blank">rowland@stemformatics.org</a><br>W: <a href="http://www.stemformatics.org" target="_blank">www.stemformatics.org</a>  | Skype: rowland.stemformatics</font><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><br><p style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><img border="0" width="187" height="62" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D23054.2AFC2740" alt="id:image001.jpg@01D20A8D.3D4A4630"></span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:rgb(145,145,145)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(145,145,145)">This email and any attachments may contain personal information or  information that is otherwise confidential or the subject of copyright. Any use, disclosure or copying of any part of it is prohibited. The University does not warrant that this email or any attachments are free from viruses or defects. Please check any attachments for viruses and defects before opening them. If this email is received in error please delete it and notify us by return email.</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><p style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:rgb(145,145,145)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(145,145,145)">This email and any attachments may contain personal information or  information that is otherwise confidential or the subject of copyright. Any use, disclosure or copying of any part of it is prohibited. The University does not warrant that this email or any attachments are free from viruses or defects. Please check any attachments for viruses and defects before opening them. If this email is received in error please delete it and notify us by return email.</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Linux Australia President <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:president@linux.org.au" target="_blank">president@linux.org.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi everyone, <br>
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    <p>This is a courtesy note to indicate that Linux Australia Council
      considered this Grant Application at Council Meeting 13th April. <br>
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    <p>We discussed this Grant Application, but we are undecided on
      whether to grant it,  and would like to seek further information
      around the dataset licensing and platform licensing, specifically
      the actual licenses that will be applied. <br>
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    <p>Rowland, are you able to indicate this information?</p>
    <p>Kind regards, <br>
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    <p>Kathy<br>
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    <div class="gmail-m_-3122845327306975669moz-cite-prefix">On 01/04/17 09:05, Rowland Mosbergen
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Russell,
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        <div>That question about dataset licensing is very good one that
          I have not thought of before.  Going forward I will do some
          research about where we are getting our data from and their
          licensing and choose a data license for our processed data and
          make it explicit on the website.</div>
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        <div>All software will be put into a public bitbucket account
          alongside our current Stemformatics software.</div>
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        <div>I can also see your point about <i>"<span style="font-size:12.8px">Is there a risk that access to
              the curated data needed for the </span></i><i style="font-size:12.8px">application might be removed at
            some future time?"</i><span style="font-size:12.8px">. The
            processed data would be in the tens of TBs so would not be
            able to fit in github/bitbucket. This data will be treated
            the same as other research data as it will be hosted on
            NeCTAR / RDS services. The chances of that data being
            removed without oversight in the future would be greatly
            reduced  compared to hosting it on a commercial platform.</span></div>
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        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Thanks again for your input
            Russell, I hope that I have answered your questions.</span></div>
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                                                      <font color="#0b5394">Rowland
                                                        Mosbergen |
                                                        Business
                                                        Manager,
                                                        Stemformatics<br>
                                                        Wells Laboratory
                                                        | Centre for
                                                        Stem Cell
                                                        Systems<br>
                                                        Department of
                                                        Anatomy and
                                                        Neuroscience |
                                                        Faculty of
                                                        Medicine,
                                                        Dentistry and
                                                        Health Sciences<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Room 1.36, Level
                                                        1, Kenneth Myer
                                                        Building<br>
                                                        The University
                                                        of Melbourne,
                                                        Victoria 3010
                                                        Australia<br>
                                                        T: +61 3 8344
                                                        6623 | E: <a href="mailto:rowland@stemformatics.org" target="_blank">rowland@stemformatics.org</a><br>
                                                        W: <a href="http://www.stemformatics.org" target="_blank">www.stemformatics.org</a>
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            Russell Coker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:russell@coker.com.au" target="_blank">russell@coker.com.au</a>></span>
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                Rowland Mosbergen wrote:<br>
                > Dear Linux Australia Council members and community,<br>
                ><br>
                > I would like to make a grant application for the
                Linux Australia Grants<br>
                > Scheme on behalf of Stemformatics.<br>
                ><br>
                > You can view the application as a pdf (attached) or
                a link (below):<br>
                > <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Hjv6EC6GA2A6_DQcOjv7zqubt96nBaqoV7YbeUN" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/15Hjv6EC6GA2A6_DQcOjv7zqu<wbr>bt96nBaqoV7YbeUN</a><br>
                > CJg/edit?usp=sharing<br>
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                > I only recently realised that I need to be a member
                of Linux Australia to<br>
                > quality for this grant. I did apply on the 27th of
                March 2017 to fulfil<br>
                > this criteria.<br>
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                > Please let me know if any extra information is
                needed for this application.<br>
                <br>
              </span>I think this is a very worthy project and the
              amount of money requested seems<br>
              reasonable given the expected return.  But I have some
              concerns about<br>
              licensing and source access.<br>
              <br>
              The PDF states that you will "create all of these under an
              open source license<br>
              (Apache License, Version 2.0)".  What about the license of
              the datasets that<br>
              you are using?  It's implied that you are getting them
              from other<br>
              organisations, do they have licenses that are compatible
              or are you receiving<br>
              a license grant from those organisations that permits
              redistributing the<br>
              bundle under the Apache license?  I expect that you will
              have sorted this out<br>
              somehow, but I would like it made clear.<br>
              <br>
              For the software that is produced, will you put it in a
              public repository like<br>
              Github?  How big is the data?  Can the data fit in github
              or some other public<br>
              repository?  Is there a risk that access to the curated
              data needed for the<br>
              application might be removed at some future time?<br>
              <br>
              Finally if this grant application is approved I suggest
              that we make a further<br>
              offer of travel expenses if one of the developers of this
              project is accepted<br>
              as a speaker at an LCA miniconf.  The general practice is
              that speakers at the<br>
              main conference may be offered travel expenses from the
              LCA budget but not for<br>
              miniconf speakers.  I think that we should make it a
              standard practice that a<br>
              miniconf speaker who is speaking about work performed
              under an LA grant should<br>
              be offered a further grant towards travel expenses from
              anywhere in Australia<br>
              or NZ.<br>
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Linux Australia

0418 130 636

<a class="gmail-m_-3122845327306975669moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:president@linux.org.au" target="_blank">president@linux.org.au</a>
<a class="gmail-m_-3122845327306975669moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linux.org.au" target="_blank">http://linux.org.au</a>

Linux Australia Inc
GPO Box 4788
Sydney NSW 2001
Australia

ABN 56 987 117 479 </pre>
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