[Linux-aus] Photos at conferences

[Elizabeta S⌀resen]

RE people not wanting to present because of being photographed, I
believe most conferences now record and stream talks. At least with LCA
+ mini confs, when you submit a talk you acknowledge that you will be
taped. 

While I understand the need for a photography policy I think doing
something like this could discourage some of candid shots taken by the
community.

Elizabeta

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014, at 04:52 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Bret Busby wrote:
> 
> > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:36:01
> > From: Bret Busby <bret at busby.net>
> > To: Linux Aus <linux-aus at linux.org.au>
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Photos at conferences
> > 
> > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Russell Stuart wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> [0]  That is why I typically advocate just leaving things alone and just
> >>     saying "the rules of the conference are the laws of the land".
> >>     Every Australian has a pretty good feel for what those laws are.
> >
> > The problem is that most people have no idea of eactly what laws apply in 
> > Australia.
> >
> > We do not have legally binding human rights. The International Covenant On 
> > Civil And Political Rights, which "entered into force" in Australia some 
> > decades ago, is of no effect in Australia. The feral parliament saw to that. 
> > Australia, at the federal level, has no binding human rights legislation. The 
> > feral parliament has made sure of that.
> >
> > Despite what many people believe, people in Australia do not have a right to 
> > own a firearm. Many people take the particular, much misinterpreted (or so I 
> > believe) provision of the USA Constitution, regarding the "right to bear 
> > arms", as being applicable in Australia.
> >
> > Australia does not have a right to freedom of speech. A man was locked up, 
> > some years ago, for telling people, not how to vote, but, how they could 
> > vote, in order to get their vote to convey what they wanted, in a federal 
> > election. Voting for and only for, the person that a voter wants elected to a 
> > parliament in Australia, is not legal.
> >
> > In relation to this particular matter, I believe that the simplest thing, is 
> > to do what I would do, when wanting to take photographs at events - ask 
> > permission first, and, if anyone declines, respect that. At a gathering, such 
> > as a presentation, if a photograph is to be taken of the audience, or 
> > otherwise of a group of people, then to state explicitly, something like 
> > "I/We want to now take a photograph of the group that is present. If you do 
> > not want yourself to be included in the photograph, would you please separate 
> > from the group, until after the photograph(s) is/are taken." If the group is 
> > the audience of a lecture/presentation, then I expect that they would be able 
> > to "leave by side doors" and be out side of the room, while photographs are 
> > taken, and, to be able to be called back in to the room, when the taking of 
> > the photographs is completed.
> >
> > To ask "Do you mind if I photograph you?", of a single adult person (or, the 
> > parent or guardian of a minor), and simlarly for a small group of peole, or, 
> > otherwise, as mentioned above, for a larger group of people, so as to not 
> > photograph any person who does not consent to being photographed, is, to me, 
> > a matter of courtesy and respect, apart from any legal or moral 
> > considerations.
> >
> > As Justice Bullingham would (I believe) say; "It is just a matter of common 
> > sense.".
> >
> >
> 
> Oh, and, regarding people who may be willing to provide presentations, 
> but do not, because they want to be not photographed, could provision 
> not be made for these people, simply by, at the start of each 
> presentation, the presenter stating "I am / am not willing to be 
> photographed in my providing this presentation.", and, unless a person 
> clearly hears from the presenter, that the presenter has so given 
> permission, no photographs are to be taken of the presenter giving the 
> presentation? If anyone arrives at the presentation, late, and therefore 
> does not hear such declaration, then that person should not photograph 
> the presenter making the presentation.
> 
> Once again, in the (I believe) words of Justice Bullingham; "It is just 
> a matter of common sense.".
> 
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
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