[Linux-aus] Special support for women

[Luke Martinez]

Also, not wanting to give women special privileges is misogyny? Hmm..
On Oct 30, 2013 7:45 AM, "Luke Martinez" <me at luke.asia> wrote:

> Wow. Just because a person has a differing view from you doesn't mean they
> should be removed at _your behest_.
>
> Could you imagine what would happen if this wasn't Linux-aus but
> religion-aus. We'd be down to 1 member really quickly!
> On Oct 30, 2013 7:37 AM, "Donna Benjamin" <donna at kattekrab.net> wrote:
>
>> You're a troll. You should be removed from this mailing list.
>>
>> David Newall <davidn at davidnewall.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> (:-P   (tongue in cheek)
>>>
>>> Apparently we need special programmes to address an imbalance between
>>> the sexes; in politics, employment, management and elsewhere, this is
>>> widely accepted as appropriate.  Linux Australia is not immune to this;
>>>
>>> we give opportunities and support to females.  This puts an elephant in
>>> the corner: women gain opportunities at the expense of more capable (or
>>> more needy) men. This undermines their credibility; it raises reasonable
>>>
>>> doubts about their competence.  Are they there from merit or merely to
>>> make up the numbers?
>>>
>>> Maggie Thatcher was never PM to improve numbers; she was destined to be
>>> leader of UK; she earned the role.  Affirmative action needed no part in
>>>
>>> her glory.  She was the best candidate.  Yet I think she must have
>>> struggled to overcome doubt.  (Arguably she was better because of the
>>> doubt, but that's for another day.)
>>>
>>> I say m
>>>  erit is
>>> blind to sex; it shines from inner strength.  I say
>>> special programmes damage the interests they purport to serve.  How can
>>> someone be taken seriously if there was obligation to give a women the
>>> place?  We do them naught but disservice by gifting favours that are
>>>
>>> intrinsically merited.  We do naught but disservice by filling seats
>>> with lesser competence.
>>>
>>> We see ourselves as a meritocracy; for sake of honesty and transparency,
>>> our special programmes for women should candidly admit patronage of
>>>
>>> incompetence over political correctness.  Let's cancel our "women in IT"
>>> programmes and replace them with programmes that reward "incompetent
>>> women in IT," or at least to widen eligibility to include hamsters and
>>>
>>> fish.  That way, competent women, of which we have plenty, can leave no
>>> doubt that they won prestige merely on shining ability.
>>>
>>> Chew, swallow, digest.
>>>
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>> --
>> Donna Benjamin
>> @kattekrab
>> Sent from phone.
>>
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