[Linux-aus] Should we change? Yes. To change is to grow.

[Silvia Pfeiffer]

On 30/04/2012, at 2:27 PM, James Polley <jamezpolley at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Sarah Stokely <sarah at foxforcefive.com> wrote:
> I had hoped that LA and our friends at Open Australia might talk about joining forces, because I agree, that is the name we should have. :)  Matthew from OA has spoken at LCA, and the aims of LA and OA are certainly sympathetic. Should this conversation maybe happen?
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> Although I think there are synergies, I don't know if a merger would make sense.
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> One of OA's aims has always been to be neutral: they provide a means for people to follow and respond to political issues, but they never ever take sides.
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> LA is explicitly and advocacy organisation: we can, will, and have argue for particular policies and laws. I don't think this is compatible with OA's stance.

I actually think that this is short-sighted. I'm sure the Drupal Conf and the PyConf subcommittee would prefer to be seen as neutral, too, just like Open Australia. It's just that OA are doing a fine job organizing themselves (even if sending extra time on it) and thus don't really need to rely on another org to help them get sorted.

I'd like our org to be an org that OA or similar orgs could become a subcommittee of if they wanted to make their lives easier.

Silvia.


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> Cheers,
> Sarah
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> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jamezpolley <jamezpolley at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 30/04/2012, at 12:09 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <silvia at silvia-pfeiffer.de> wrote:
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> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Ronald Skeoch <skeoro at muli.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 29/04/12 05:20, Jon "maddog" Hall wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to suggest an approach of having a parent organization that
> >> is "Free and Open Culture of Australia" or something as encompassing of
> >> your value statement as you can get.  This organization would lend its
> >> resources and "umbrella" to as many organizations as it feels fits that
> >> value statement.  This has been suggested before.
> >>
> >> Snip
> >>
> >> I suggest
> >>
> >> "Free Open Standards Community ANZ"
> >>
> >> I believe this is an encompassing statement of our objectives:-
> >>
> >> Free to use - May have patents appropriately held
> >>                      should have appropriate licence
> >>
> >> Free to enhance
> >>
> >> "Open Standards" are a core necessity enabling
> >>                      Linux
> >>                      Pycon
> >>                      Drupal
> >>                      Word Camp ...etc to florish
> >>
> >> "Community" - the major missing concept from politics today
> >>                       opposie to global rationalisation
> >>
> >>
> >> I believe our Advocacy should be to focussed on
> >> achieving true "unencumbered open standards "
> >> for all branches of community life,
> >> - Health records
> >> - Aussie hamburgers, cakes
> >> - Car tinkerers
> >> - Video Codec
> >> - Government to people user interface
> >> - Document storage etc
> >
> >
> > I like the sentiment behind it, but it seems to exclude software and
> > hardware - standards by itself isn't really what we are about. We
> > don't want to be competing with "Standards Australia" in any way shape
> > or form.
> >
> > "Free and Open Source Software, Hardware and Communities in Australia
> > and New Zealand" is more what we are about, but that's really quite a
> > mouth full...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Silvia.
> 
> I have a name which is short, simple, and inclusive: Open Australia.
> 
> Unfortunately that name is taken.
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