<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br></div><div><br>On 30/04/2012, at 2:27 PM, James Polley <<a href="mailto:jamezpolley@gmail.com">jamezpolley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Sarah Stokely <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sarah@foxforcefive.com" target="_blank">sarah@foxforcefive.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I had hoped that LA and our friends at Open Australia might talk about joining forces, because I agree, that is the name we should have. :) Matthew from OA has spoken at LCA, and the aims of LA and OA are certainly sympathetic. Should this conversation maybe happen?<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Although I think there are synergies, I don't know if a merger would make sense.</div><div><br></div><div>One of OA's aims has always been to be neutral: they provide a means for people to follow and respond to political issues, but they never ever take sides.</div>
<div><br></div><div>LA is explicitly and advocacy organisation: we can, will, and have argue for particular policies and laws. I don't think this is compatible with OA's stance.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I actually think that this is short-sighted. I'm sure the Drupal Conf and the PyConf subcommittee would prefer to be seen as neutral, too, just like Open Australia. It's just that OA are doing a fine job organizing themselves (even if sending extra time on it) and thus don't really need to rely on another org to help them get sorted.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd like our org to be an org that OA or similar orgs could become a subcommittee of if they wanted to make their lives easier.</div><div><br></div><div>Silvia.</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>Cheers,<br>Sarah<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jamezpolley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jamezpolley@gmail.com" target="_blank">jamezpolley@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 30/04/2012, at 12:09 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <<a href="mailto:silvia@silvia-pfeiffer.de" target="_blank">silvia@silvia-pfeiffer.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Ronald Skeoch <<a href="mailto:skeoro@muli.com.au" target="_blank">skeoro@muli.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 29/04/12 05:20, Jon "maddog" Hall wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I would like to suggest an approach of having a parent organization that<br>
>> is "Free and Open Culture of Australia" or something as encompassing of<br>
>> your value statement as you can get. This organization would lend its<br>
>> resources and "umbrella" to as many organizations as it feels fits that<br>
>> value statement. This has been suggested before.<br>
>><br>
>> Snip<br>
>><br>
>> I suggest<br>
>><br>
>> "Free Open Standards Community ANZ"<br>
>><br>
>> I believe this is an encompassing statement of our objectives:-<br>
>><br>
>> Free to use - May have patents appropriately held<br>
>> should have appropriate licence<br>
>><br>
>> Free to enhance<br>
>><br>
>> "Open Standards" are a core necessity enabling<br>
>> Linux<br>
>> Pycon<br>
>> Drupal<br>
>> Word Camp ...etc to florish<br>
>><br>
>> "Community" - the major missing concept from politics today<br>
>> opposie to global rationalisation<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I believe our Advocacy should be to focussed on<br>
>> achieving true "unencumbered open standards "<br>
>> for all branches of community life,<br>
>> - Health records<br>
>> - Aussie hamburgers, cakes<br>
>> - Car tinkerers<br>
>> - Video Codec<br>
>> - Government to people user interface<br>
>> - Document storage etc<br>
><br>
><br>
> I like the sentiment behind it, but it seems to exclude software and<br>
> hardware - standards by itself isn't really what we are about. We<br>
> don't want to be competing with "Standards Australia" in any way shape<br>
> or form.<br>
><br>
> "Free and Open Source Software, Hardware and Communities in Australia<br>
> and New Zealand" is more what we are about, but that's really quite a<br>
> mouth full...<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Silvia.<br>
<br>
</div></div>I have a name which is short, simple, and inclusive: Open Australia.<br>
<br>
Unfortunately that name is taken.<br>
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