[Linux-aus] linux-aus Digest, Vol 61, Issue 8

Sun Apr 22 21:31:04 EST 2012

Hey All,

I'm one for no change, but if it needs to happen " Linux and Open Source
Australia " covers all and won't confuse those new to Linux.

Regards
Graeme White

On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 19:39 +1000, linux-aus-request at lists.linux.org.au
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>    1. Should Linux Australia change its name? (John Ferlito)
>    2. Re: Should Linux Australia change its name? (Chris Neugebauer)
>    3. Re: Should Linux Australia change its name? (Paul Wayper)
>    4. Re: Should Linux Australia change its name? (Russell Coker)
>    5. Re: Should Linux Australia change its name? (Luke John)
>    6. Re: Should Linux Australia change its name? (Noel Butler)
>    7. Re: Should Linux Australia change its name? (James Turnbull)
>    8. Re: Should Linux Australia change its name? (Andrew Stone)
>    9. Re: Should Linux Australia change its name? (Hamish Taylor)
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> email message attachment ([Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change
> its name?)
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> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: John Ferlito <johnf at inodes.org>
> > To: linux-aus at linux.org.au
> > Subject: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?
> > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:44:48 +1000
> > 
> > 
> > Howdy,
> > 
> > Linux Australia has been around for over ten years and we are no longer an
> > organisation focussed mainly on Linux and running LCA each year. All of our
> > members use or contribute to open source projects in one form or another. Linux
> > Australia has also become involved in open source and open culture events that
> > are not specifically related to Linux.
> > 
> > We think it is time for us to change the name of our organisation to have it
> > more accurately represent the focus of our community.
> > 
> > The council wants the community to discuss this potential name change and if
> > required, an appropriate name. One name that seems to accurately reflect our
> > shared values and our direction is Open Source Australia.
> > 
> > What we would like to hear from you, the membership, is your feeling about such
> > a name change and if this particular suggested name doesn't resonate with you,
> > is there one that's a better fit?
> > 
> > Linux.conf.au is our largest and longest running conference and we don't
> > believe we need to change its name. The reputation and wide recognition of the
> > LCA brand is important to the future of linux.conf.au.
> > 
> > We also don't intend to relinquish the Linux Australia brand or the
> > linux.org.au domain name. They will be useful during the transition to another
> > name and we intend to maintain their registrations for as long as it makes
> > sense to do so.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Linux Australia Council
> > 
> 
> email message attachment (Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia
> change its name?)
> 
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Chris Neugebauer <chrisjrn at gmail.com>
> > To: John Ferlito <johnf at inodes.org>
> > Cc: linux-aus at linux.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?
> > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:05:45 +1000
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 15:44, John Ferlito <johnf at inodes.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > The council wants the community to discuss this potential name change and if
> > > required, an appropriate name. One name that seems to accurately reflect our
> > > shared values and our direction is Open Source Australia.
> > >
> > >
> > > What we would like to hear from you, the membership, is your feeling about such
> > > a name change and if this particular suggested name doesn't resonate with you,
> > > is there one that's a better fit?
> > >
> > 
> > Such a name change does seem appropriate -- from the point of view of
> > someone organising a Python conference, it's quite annoying to have to
> > explain why "Linux Australia" would be running the conference.
> > Something like "Open Source Australia" would be a better fit.
> > 
> > My only concern is the closeness of the name to OSIA (Open Source
> > Industry Australia), and this could be a potential source of
> > confusion.
> > 
> > tl;dr: Name change good, but ensure that that source of confusion isn't there.
> > 
> > --Chris
> > 
> > 
> 
> email message attachment (Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia
> change its name?)
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> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Paul Wayper <paulway at mabula.net>
> > Reply-to: paulway at mabula.net
> > To: linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?
> > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:23:58 +1000
> > 
> > 
> > On 04/22/2012 03:44 PM, John Ferlito wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > > 
> > > Linux Australia has been around for over ten years and we are no longer an
> > > organisation focussed mainly on Linux and running LCA each year. All of our
> > > members use or contribute to open source projects in one form or another. Linux
> > > Australia has also become involved in open source and open culture events that
> > > are not specifically related to Linux.
> > > 
> > > We think it is time for us to change the name of our organisation to have it
> > > more accurately represent the focus of our community.
> > 
> > SETR: I like "Open Source Australia", but I think just as linux.conf.au is
> > about more than "Linux" these days, Linux Australia can also be about more
> > than just Linux these days.  If OSA is a better way to get other interest
> > groups (e.g. the former AUUG) to meet under a shared banner, then so be it.
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > [1] SETR: Short Enough To Read.  A TL;DR post without the bit that was TLTR.
> > 
> > email message attachment
> > 
> > 
> 
> email message attachment (Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia
> change its name?)
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> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Russell Coker <russell at coker.com.au>
> > Reply-to: russell at coker.com.au
> > To: linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?
> > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:28:09 +1000
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 22 Apr 2012, Chris Neugebauer <chrisjrn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My only concern is the closeness of the name to OSIA (Open Source
> > > Industry Australia), and this could be a potential source of
> > > confusion.
> > 
> > I agree that OSA is not a viable option.
> > 
> > Free Software Australia?
> > 
> 
> email message attachment (Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia
> change its name?)
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> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Luke John <luke.john at osmahi.com>
> > To: linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?
> > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:29:48 +0800
> > 
> > 
> > Linux Australia is doing a great job supporting and developing
> > communities engaged in open tools, technologies and events.
> > 
> > Hows "Open Communities Australia" sound?
> > 
> > Kind Regards
> > Luke John
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Paul Wayper <paulway at mabula.net> wrote:
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> > > On 04/22/2012 03:44 PM, John Ferlito wrote:
> > >> Howdy,
> > >>
> > >> Linux Australia has been around for over ten years and we are no longer an
> > >> organisation focussed mainly on Linux and running LCA each year. All of our
> > >> members use or contribute to open source projects in one form or another. Linux
> > >> Australia has also become involved in open source and open culture events that
> > >> are not specifically related to Linux.
> > >>
> > >> We think it is time for us to change the name of our organisation to have it
> > >> more accurately represent the focus of our community.
> > >
> > > SETR: I like "Open Source Australia", but I think just as linux.conf.au is
> > > about more than "Linux" these days, Linux Australia can also be about more
> > > than just Linux these days. If OSA is a better way to get other interest
> > > groups (e.g. the former AUUG) to meet under a shared banner, then so be it.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > [1] SETR: Short Enough To Read. A TL;DR post without the bit that was TLTR.
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> email message attachment (Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia
> change its name?)
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> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net>
> > To: linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?
> > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:43:23 +1000
> > 
> > On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 15:44 +1000, John Ferlito wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Linux Australia has been around for over ten years and we are no longer an
> > 
> > 
> > The name is well known and respected for this reason.
> > 
> > I'm   -1    for any name change.
> > 
> > 
> 
> email message attachment (Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia
> change its name?)
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> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: James Turnbull <james at lovedthanlost.net>
> > Reply-to: james at lovedthanlost.net
> > To: John Ferlito <johnf at inodes.org>
> > Cc: linux-aus at linux.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?
> > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 00:37:06 -0700
> > 
> > 
> > John Ferlito wrote:
> > > The council wants the community to discuss this potential name change and if
> > > required, an appropriate name. One name that seems to accurately reflect our
> > > shared values and our direction is Open Source Australia.
> > > 
> > 
> > I support the change in name with the caveat that we handle the branding
> > carefully and especially ensure we maintain the linux.conf.au brand as
> > independent.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > James Turnbull
> > 
> > 
> > email message attachment
> > 
> > 
> 
> email message attachment (Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia
> change its name?)
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> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Andrew Stone <andrew at stonie.net>
> > To: russell at coker.com.au
> > Cc: linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?
> > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:57:18 +1000
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Russell Coker <russell at coker.com.au> wrote:
> > > Free Software Australia?
> > 
> > I think that is closer to the mark... "Open Source" extends into a
> > vast arena well beyond Linux and BSD.
> > 
> > Still might be an issue however with the word "Free" being used in the
> > wrong context by most people.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Stonie.
> > 
> > 
> 
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> change its name?)
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> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Hamish Taylor <bubbiting at gmail.com>
> > To: james at lovedthanlost.net
> > Cc: linux-aus at linux.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?
> > Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:12:08 +1000
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:37 PM, James Turnbull <james at lovedthanlost.net> wrote:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > John Ferlito wrote:
> > >> The council wants the community to discuss this potential name change and if
> > >> required, an appropriate name. One name that seems to accurately reflect our
> > >> shared values and our direction is Open Source Australia.
> > >>
> > 
> > To be encompassing of all aspects of the community which LA currently
> > represents, I suggest: Open Technologies Association of Australia, or
> > something along those lines (Australian Open Technologies Association,
> > etc). This avoids the contentions between the Free (libre) software
> > movement and the Open Source software movement, avoids the pitfalls
> > with something with 'Free' in its name, and caters for more than just
> > software developers, by including open hardware, 3D printing, etc.
> > 
> > Hamish
> > 
> > 
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