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Hey All,<BR>
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I'm one for no change, but if it needs to happen " Linux and Open Source Australia " covers all and won't confuse those new to Linux.<BR>
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Regards<BR>
Graeme White<BR>
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5. Re: Should Linux Australia change its name? (Luke John)
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8. Re: Should Linux Australia change its name? (Andrew Stone)
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<B>Subject</B>: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?<BR>
<B>Date</B>: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:44:48 +1000<BR>
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Howdy,
Linux Australia has been around for over ten years and we are no longer an
organisation focussed mainly on Linux and running LCA each year. All of our
members use or contribute to open source projects in one form or another. Linux
Australia has also become involved in open source and open culture events that
are not specifically related to Linux.
We think it is time for us to change the name of our organisation to have it
more accurately represent the focus of our community.
The council wants the community to discuss this potential name change and if
required, an appropriate name. One name that seems to accurately reflect our
shared values and our direction is Open Source Australia.
What we would like to hear from you, the membership, is your feeling about such
a name change and if this particular suggested name doesn't resonate with you,
is there one that's a better fit?
Linux.conf.au is our largest and longest running conference and we don't
believe we need to change its name. The reputation and wide recognition of the
LCA brand is important to the future of linux.conf.au.
We also don't intend to relinquish the Linux Australia brand or the
linux.org.au domain name. They will be useful during the transition to another
name and we intend to maintain their registrations for as long as it makes
sense to do so.
Cheers,
Linux Australia Council
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<B>Subject</B>: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?<BR>
<B>Date</B>: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:05:45 +1000<BR>
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On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 15:44, John Ferlito <<A HREF="mailto:johnf@inodes.org">johnf@inodes.org</A>> wrote:
>
> The council wants the community to discuss this potential name change and if
> required, an appropriate name. One name that seems to accurately reflect our
> shared values and our direction is Open Source Australia.
>
>
> What we would like to hear from you, the membership, is your feeling about such
> a name change and if this particular suggested name doesn't resonate with you,
> is there one that's a better fit?
>
Such a name change does seem appropriate -- from the point of view of
someone organising a Python conference, it's quite annoying to have to
explain why "Linux Australia" would be running the conference.
Something like "Open Source Australia" would be a better fit.
My only concern is the closeness of the name to OSIA (Open Source
Industry Australia), and this could be a potential source of
confusion.
tl;dr: Name change good, but ensure that that source of confusion isn't there.
--Chris
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<B>Subject</B>: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?<BR>
<B>Date</B>: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:23:58 +1000<BR>
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On 04/22/2012 03:44 PM, John Ferlito wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Linux Australia has been around for over ten years and we are no longer an
> organisation focussed mainly on Linux and running LCA each year. All of our
> members use or contribute to open source projects in one form or another. Linux
> Australia has also become involved in open source and open culture events that
> are not specifically related to Linux.
>
> We think it is time for us to change the name of our organisation to have it
> more accurately represent the focus of our community.
SETR: I like "Open Source Australia", but I think just as linux.conf.au is
about more than "Linux" these days, Linux Australia can also be about more
than just Linux these days. If OSA is a better way to get other interest
groups (e.g. the former AUUG) to meet under a shared banner, then so be it.
Paul
[1] SETR: Short Enough To Read. A TL;DR post without the bit that was TLTR.
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<B>Subject</B>: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?<BR>
<B>Date</B>: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:28:09 +1000<BR>
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2012, Chris Neugebauer <<A HREF="mailto:chrisjrn@gmail.com">chrisjrn@gmail.com</A>> wrote:
> My only concern is the closeness of the name to OSIA (Open Source
> Industry Australia), and this could be a potential source of
> confusion.
I agree that OSA is not a viable option.
Free Software Australia?
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<B>Subject</B>: Re: [Linux-aus] Should Linux Australia change its name?<BR>
<B>Date</B>: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:29:48 +0800<BR>
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Linux Australia is doing a great job supporting and developing
communities engaged in open tools, technologies and events.
Hows "Open Communities Australia" sound?
Kind Regards
Luke John
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Paul Wayper <<A HREF="mailto:paulway@mabula.net">paulway@mabula.net</A>> wrote:
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> On 04/22/2012 03:44 PM, John Ferlito wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Linux Australia has been around for over ten years and we are no longer an
>> organisation focussed mainly on Linux and running LCA each year. All of our
>> members use or contribute to open source projects in one form or another. Linux
>> Australia has also become involved in open source and open culture events that
>> are not specifically related to Linux.
>>
>> We think it is time for us to change the name of our organisation to have it
>> more accurately represent the focus of our community.
>
> SETR: I like "Open Source Australia", but I think just as linux.conf.au is
> about more than "Linux" these days, Linux Australia can also be about more
> than just Linux these days. If OSA is a better way to get other interest
> groups (e.g. the former AUUG) to meet under a shared banner, then so be it.
>
> Paul
>
> [1] SETR: Short Enough To Read. A TL;DR post without the bit that was TLTR.
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The name is well known and respected for this reason.<BR>
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I'm -1 for any name change.<BR>
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John Ferlito wrote:
> The council wants the community to discuss this potential name change and if
> required, an appropriate name. One name that seems to accurately reflect our
> shared values and our direction is Open Source Australia.
>
I support the change in name with the caveat that we handle the branding
carefully and especially ensure we maintain the linux.conf.au brand as
independent.
Regards
James Turnbull
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On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Russell Coker <<A HREF="mailto:russell@coker.com.au">russell@coker.com.au</A>> wrote:
> Free Software Australia?
I think that is closer to the mark... "Open Source" extends into a
vast arena well beyond Linux and BSD.
Still might be an issue however with the word "Free" being used in the
wrong context by most people.
Regards,
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On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:37 PM, James Turnbull <<A HREF="mailto:james@lovedthanlost.net">james@lovedthanlost.net</A>> wrote:
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>> The council wants the community to discuss this potential name change and if
>> required, an appropriate name. One name that seems to accurately reflect our
>> shared values and our direction is Open Source Australia.
>>
To be encompassing of all aspects of the community which LA currently
represents, I suggest: Open Technologies Association of Australia, or
something along those lines (Australian Open Technologies Association,
etc). This avoids the contentions between the Free (libre) software
movement and the Open Source software movement, avoids the pitfalls
with something with 'Free' in its name, and caters for more than just
software developers, by including open hardware, 3D printing, etc.
Hamish
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