[Linux-aus] Draft Donation Guidelines

[Silvia Pfeiffer]

Ah that makes sense. That might be a third way to initiate a donation though I tend to think in this case a report would be requested so it just ends up being a grant anyway.

Over to the council indeed! :)

Silvia.


On 27/02/2011, at 9:22 PM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Silvia,
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <silvia at silvia-pfeiffer.de> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Kathy,
> > Kudos .....great effort!
> >
> > On Saturday, February 26, 2011, Silvia Pfeiffer
> > <silvia at silvia-pfeiffer.de> wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>> *What process is used?*
> >>>
> >>> The entity requesting the Donation will contact Council outlining the
> >>> request for Donation, the nature of the event, initiative or organisation
> >>> requesting the Donation and appropriate due diligence material, such as
> >>> proof of tax exempt charity status
> >>
> >> This part is not appropriate, since in this case it would be a grant,
> >> seeing as there is a request form the organisation. The difference
> >> really is that in this case, where it is a donation, the receving
> >> organisation did NOT put in a request, so we should not require
> >> anything from the receiving organisation. Instead, it is up to the
> >> council to put together due diligence material.
> >>
> >
> > I politely disagree and think this is appropriate.
> > I think the wording here and after is intended to define how the
> > donation process is initiated.
> > Orgs solicit donations all the time by direct request and make efforts
> > to promote their cause and expected outcomes.
> > The difference IMHO between a grant and a donation is that
> > - a grant requires the recipient to report back on outcomes.
> > - there is no requirement for a donation recipient to do this...
> 
> 
> Interesting...
> 
> I would have thought that while indeed organisations ask for donations
> all the time, it's not the organisation initiating the donation
> process, but somebody in LA that reacts to this donation request that
> is the initiator.
> 
> A very valid way to look at it.
>  
> It's this LA member that should be required to
> prepare information for the due diligence process, not the receiving
> organisation. And indeed,there probably would be no need for a report
> on what has been achieved with the money, since the organisation would
> realistically do reporting about their general activities for the year
> anyway.
> 
> I'm thinking about this in the same way as when somebody in a company
> wants to get their company to donate money to e.g. LA. That person
> would be required to make a case and get the material together
> (possibly by asking the donation recipient for help or making use of
> existing material form that organisation that helps the
> decision-making, but it wouldn't be a requirement on the
> organisation).
> 
> 
> Also valid.
> Perhaps we have miscommunicated a little.
> My point was that a direct donation solicitation (to the Council as a whole) from an individual or organisation should not be ruled out in the proposed guideline.
> Which is what I read in your response, but have most likely misunderstood. :-)
> 
> Either way, the suggestion and commitment by the Council to discuss these guidelines is a great first step.
> I doubt there could be any bad outcome no matter what is decided.
> 
> Rgds
> BW
>  
> For a grant request, the recipient is indeed much more directly
> involved in asking for the money and reporting on the outcomes.
> 
> Cheers,
> Silvia.
> 
> 
> >
> > I think Kathy has covered the latter well in the opening sentences.
> >
> > Rgds
> > BW
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> OR
> >>>
> >>> A member of Council will propose a Donation at a Council meeting outlining
> >>> the reasons behind the proposal
> >>
> >> Yes, this is a lot more appropriate.
> >>
> >>
> >>> The Council will then, depending on the amount of the Donation, consult with
> >>> members then vote on the proposal, or vote on the proposal at the next
> >>> meeting.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Silvia.
> >>
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