[Lias] (no subject)

Tom Doyle tom at stvincents.nsw.edu.au
Fri Mar 28 11:37:02 UTC 2003


Can I just say that when you click reply to a post on this forum, it replies
to the originator of the post and NOT the list. This is a problem as lots of
advice is lost to the whole community. Can this be changed to default the
reply to the list?

2Cents-Tom.

-----Original Message-----
From: lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au
[mailto:lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au]On Behalf Of Andrew Dorrell
Sent: Friday, 28 March 2003 2:17 PM
To: Lias
Subject: Re: [Lias] Thanks for help re Proxy


Les I think this is a great idea and would encourage you to do it.
Perhaps if one of us could setup a wiki-web (see fr example
http://www.twiki.org or http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/) this would
provide an effective means for having such documentation maintained by
the whole community?

I'd like to suggest also that other's follow Trevor's lead and, when
they get a post they don't understand, don't be afraid to say so.  Many
of us have worked with teachers and in schools and understand the
difficulty in finding enough time to administer systems - let alone keep
up-to-date  with all the trends.  One of the reasons for this list is to
get together tech heads who are sympathetic to this - otherwise you
could just post to say *lug (your local linux users group)... but it is
difficult to know at what level to post your replies as there is *such*
a mix of experience levels

Regards

Les Bell wrote:
> "Trevor Gunter" <tgunter at lisp.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> I know that's a poor excuse and I appreciate all of you not treating those
> teachers on this list who have varying levels of Linux skills (usually
low)
> as newbies. However, I find that a lot of what people recommend for me to
> do, I will try and often bumble through, but what some have suggested I
> have
> little idea of what it means or even how to do it. I know this comes in
the
> category of RTFM and I do try, but there are just so many hours in the day
> and we are teachers first trying to integrate Linux into schools in
varying
> ways.
> <<
>
> It's the same for everyone, Trevor, even those of us who've been doing
this
> for years. I spent a couple of hours this afternoon screwing around trying
> to fix a Samba/WinNT printer problem. I guess one answer is something that
> we started years ago on the caldera-users list (back when Caldera were a
> reasonable company with a nice distro): someone collated the replies on
the
> list and produced a "Step By Step" ("SxS") web site that gave detailed
> instructions on how to set various things up.
>
> Perhaps something similar would help here. I know that I face the same
> problem from the other side - I set up a Squid proxy for my kids' school,
> and sooner or later will have to hand over responsibility for it to
someone
> else. Before that happens, I suspect I'll have to train them, as well as
> completely documenting the setup.
>
> Now I've made another rod for my own back, by proposing that the school
set
> out to get some return on its $25,000 investment in LAN cabling by
> installing an intranet server. I threw together a prototype, running under
> VMWare on my laptop, brainstormed what it should do (mind map at
> http://ffps.lesbell.com.au/pandc/schoolserver/index.html) and have now
sold
> the school on the idea, with implementation planned for next term.
>
> This thing involves configuration of Apache, Samba, some CGI programs,
> Webmin and Usermin, procmail, and a bunch of other stuff. I've decided to
> document it in detail, in the SxS style, as otherwise the moment I try to
> hand it over to someone else, it will start to fall apart. I'll write up
> some articles and post them on my site initially, and if anyone finds them
> useful, terrific. To be honest, I think whoever takes it over will need
> support from a community around Lias, and if I can encourage others to
> implement similar systems, that will be great.
>
> With that in mind, I'll let this list know when I start posting articles.
I
> also expect to spend a day or two setting installing and configuring the
> server, and if anyone in the Sydney area wants to lend a hand and see how
> it all goes together, they're welcome to come around and take notes.
>
> Best,
>
> --- Les Bell, CISSP
> [http://www.lesbell.com.au]
>
>
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