From russell-linuxaus at stuart.id.au Thu Mar 18 20:59:00 2021 From: russell-linuxaus at stuart.id.au (Russell Stuart) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 19:59:00 +1000 Subject: [LUGcomms] virtual lug talks Message-ID: <91d47812-53d1-0d4d-b48e-d2151f5ed97e@stuart.id.au> Hi all, This is a follow up to the virtual LUG meeting we had at LCA 2021. It's far too late. Apologies for that. Before getting into the meat of it, there is something you should be aware of. I suggested we convene on this mailing list because it was inactive. But now I'm a moderator, I can see 64 current subscribers who will get this email, and there were about 10 of us. I think that is a good thing. First, a summary of our online meeting. I gather we agree LUG's are all suffer from two problems. One immediate: COVID wrecking havoc with our normal meetup habits. The second is long term. There is less interest in the style of gatherings LUG's tend to have, ie meetings based on running Linux on your PC. I will add to these two other things we seem to agree on: enthusiasm for open source is as strong as ever. The active participation LUG's used to attract hasn't gone away. It's just splintered into lots of different meetup's, online communities and conferences. In fact here in Brisbane I would lay long odds if added up all the hours people spend discussing and collaborating on Rust, Javascript, VR and other meetups I would find it far surpasses the interest Humbug attracted at its peak, and at that peak was well over 100 people attending every meeting. The second observation is those meetup's in particular have been battered by COVID 19, just as we have been. The nub of this email is it appears we open source people have a problem in common with LUG's: COVID 19 is preventing us from getting together to have a natter about our favourite interest. And it also appears to me the LUG's could band together to provide an answer to that common problem. Most of us have roused up speakers in the past, and we tend to have the broad social networks needed to do the job. We also have the in-house expertise to set up virtual Australia wide talk. Well, to be more precise LUV has that expertise, in fact they do it now. And finally, we have the ear of the LA council. On the subject of the LA council, I should set expectations. I've been the LA treasurer for 4 years, so I can say with some authority they are like the rest of open source: the council is a do'oracy. Things happen because someone gave up their spare time to make it happen. In a do'oracy the people in charge tend to be the people who gave up their time. The people on the council are busy people already. They can't and won't be organising and throwing resources our way to make our job easier. If this is a success, it will be because we made it a success and it will be ours to own. But ... they do have access to money. They are pretty tight fisted with that money - to have any hope of being granted some, you have to convince them you are advancing open source. And even then we aren't talking a lot of money. But if this is a success and we need to pay for VM's or bandwidth, I expect the smallish means required to do that will be forthcoming after a suitable amount of begging. We might also need to provide headsets to speakers to ensure suitable audio quality. The proposal is we LUGS organise a regular nation wide virtual meetup that our members can attend, the bait being talks. Ie, no different to what we used to do, but virtual. And that we actively seek to make this appealing to the splintered offshoots, so they also provide talks and their members attend. Doing that will lessen the load and broaden the group. The nuts and bolts of this proposal are: - LUV sets up the infrastructure for a nation wide virtual meeting. Apart from organising the server, this boils down to providing speakers and attendees with suitable URL's. - Each participating LUG undertakes by replying to this email to find suitable speakers on a rotating basis. - I suggest we organise with a calendar like thing (cloud spreadsheet, trello or whatever) with a LUGS name beside each meeting date, and the LUG enters the talk names they have lined up. Continuity is critical, and this will allow is to see if someone is having trouble so others can step up with a talk they already have. - The LUG's will activity canvas other open source'y groups in their area, asking them if they know of speakers who could contribute and members who would be interested in attending. - We will maintain a registry of those other open source groups and their contacts to ensure the process can continue as people fall off the perch. - We will actively encourage people from outside the LUG's to join us as organisers of this - ie allow them to organise talks, giving them access to whatever small amounts of infrastructure we have. - For clarity for now the only explicit goal is to have a talk organised, invites containing URL's distributed, and perhaps more than 20 attend. If we regularly pull that off I'll deem the endeavour a wild success. Other things like recording the talks or providing chat rooms for other purposes will probably happen, but for the moment the focus is simply on getting this ball rolling. Action Items ------------ I will also create a folder on LA's Google account that will initially contain the two spreadsheets mentioned above - the meeting dates and group registry, and I will share that folder with whoever replies to this email. (I'm guessing we will change this arrangement later.) Russell Coker, has to reply to this email on behalf of LUV saying they will step up and organise the infrastructure for the first few rounds of talks. WE have to decide on meeting dates and frequency. YOU have to reply to this email, saying: - You are interested in arranging talks on behalf of LUG xxxx in area yyyy, - You will contact other open source groups in your area canvassing for talks, - You will host (introduce speakers, your LUG, etc) your talks on the infrastructure we come up with, - You will distribute the invites containing the URL's to the talks far and wide, - You will keep any paperwork we decide on up to date with your doings (eg, the talk schedule and registry mentioned above), and finally - Any meeting time and frequency preferences your LUG has. I, on behalf of Humbug (the Brisbane LUG), undertake to get the ball rolling by organising the first talk. It will be from brispy, the local Python meetup, who has ceased meeting due to COVID. With respects to dates and times, fortnightly or monthly seems appropriate. If they take off weekly might also be appropriate. On times, during weekdays anything starting between 6:30 PM and 8:30 PM Queensland time (+1000) is OK. On the weekends any time could probably be made to work. -- Regards, Russell Stuart +61 438 805 133