[Linux-aus] contest proposal

[Mark Foster]

Blah, I don't send list traffic from my mobile often enough. As below..


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From: Mark Foster <blakjak at blakjak.net>
Sent: 6 January 2024 1:08:25 pm NZDT
To: Info <info at petermoulding.com>
Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] contest proposal

If the web site is literally causing you to load said scripts, I'd say that the website has an expectation you will load them as part of your user experience and there is no 'agreement' in the way you mean it here.

If you choose to use NoScript or other means to block elements of a website (usually third-party elements that provide for user tracking, profiling, or third party integrations) then that's "at your own risk".

There's plenty of websites I simply avoid if I don't have NoScript and other tools active for (Privacy Badger for example) but it requires enough cloo to know which scripts you are happy to run vs what functionality you are willing to sacrifice, not something for the average user.

Mark.

On 5 January 2024 5:37:44 pm NZDT, Info via linux-aus <linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:
>To me, it is valid to exclude all third party scripts as they are not a part of your agreement with the Web site.
>
>On 5/1/24 13:52, David Lloyd via linux-aus wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder if there's a repository which describes "what sites need which
>> JavaScript to not break" so that people could run `NoScripts` but not
>> have to always worry that "My Favourite Site That Uses React" doesn't
>> break unexpectedly; a bit like the TypeScript repositories that let one
>> download TS definitions so you wouldn't have to make them up all by
>> one's self? Or even, the common "virus databases" (after all, the things
>> we want to get rid of with NoScripts are almost virus look, or at least
>> intrusive).
>> 
>> DSL
>> 
>> On 1/2/2024 7:28 PM, Cameron Simpson via linux-aus wrote:
>>> On 01Jan2024 14:14, russell at coker.com.au <russell at coker.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 1 January 2024 13:18:40 AEDT Info via linux-aus wrote:
>>>>> Use Firefox as an example. Installing NoScript reduces all overheads by
>>>>> heaps. Gone is most of the spyware, trackware, and general junkware.
>>>>> Make
>>>>> Noscript style controls standard built in.
>>>> 
>>>> What does NoScript break?  We need documentation on this, and maybe some
>>>> changes to defaults of OS installs.
>>> 
>>> NoScripts breaks lots of stuff, largely because many sites (a) are
>>> totally dependent on JavaScript for the basics (there are eg
>>> news/magazine sites which don't even render article text unless you
>>> turn on some of their JS) and (b) some sites, particularly TV VOD
>>> sites eg CBS which pull JS from a frankly obscene number of third
>>> parties (eg something like 20 different sources for CBS when last I
>>> had to visit it some years back).
>>> 
>>> NoScript lets you enable (permanently and temporarily) various JS
>>> sources and also disable permanently (hi facebook and google analytics).
>>> 
>>> But having a functional web does require one to whitelist some JS from
>>> various places for various sites.
>>> 
>>> I run NoScript in my firefox, and I love it. But there's per-user
>>> admin pain.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Cameron Simpson <cs at cskk.id.au>
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