From russell at coker.com.au  Thu Mar  3 18:21:46 2022
From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker)
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 18:21:46 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] efficiency of user groups
Message-ID: <5679646.sC5gfIvSK5@xev>

When running users' groups we don't want to waste effort reinventing wheels.  
Ideally we have people doing mostly what they are good at and what provides a 
benefit to users that can't be gained elsewhere.

For the Flounder group I asked Linux Australia for list hosting because 
running one more list on the list server is negligible effort but running a 
separate list server is a moderate amount of work for someone.

The LUV server uses Wordpress for the main site (with a bunch of plugins 
installed and maintained up to date), running 10 other Wordpress instances 
there would be almost no effort.  If any other free software users' group 
needs a self hosted Wordpress installation I could easily set it up, root 
access is available to people who have a community reputation for being 
reliable.  Also any other Apache/PHP/MySQL/PostgreSQL site could be hosted 
without much effort.  As an aside the LUV Wordpress setup includes a plugin to 
export iCal files of future meetings.

Currently the LUV server runs a Matrix server which is minimally used by me 
and not used by anyone else (AFAIK, I gave a few people accounts but I don't 
think they use them).  Running a Matrix server for such a small number of 
people isn't efficient.  If there are other people in the community who want 
to use Matrix I can give out free accounts.  Otherwise it might be best for me 
to get myself an account somewhere else and save the effort of running it.

https://planet.luv.asn.au/

The LUV server has a chroot environment running Debian/Buster to run the 
Planet-Venus software for blog syndication.  It has my copy of the Linux 
Australia syndication as well as another instance for my personal use.  I 
could easily run dozens of extra instances with almost no effort.  If anyone 
has a use for this then let me know.  As an aside the planet-venus package is 
not supported in more recent versions of Debian.  But Buster has support for 
another few years and I'll find some other syndication software in a few years 
time.

The LUV mail server has a single-domain Postfix setup.  Changing that to 
support multiple domains with web based administration wouldn't be that hard 
to do.  If someone needs a couple of contact addresses for their free software 
group then I could set that up.

LUV has a Wiki which isn't used very much.  Would it make sense to change that 
to a free software groups in Australia and New Zealand wiki and give access to 
more people?  That wouldn't be any more work for me than keeping it ticking 
over in it's current almost unused configuration.

Does anyone else have server resources that can be shared with the free 
software community at negligible effort?

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From james at jamesh.id.au  Fri Mar  4 16:37:29 2022
From: james at jamesh.id.au (James Henstridge)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 13:37:29 +0800
Subject: [Linux-aus] efficiency of user groups
In-Reply-To: <5679646.sC5gfIvSK5@xev>
References: <5679646.sC5gfIvSK5@xev>
Message-ID: <CALcaVOk0qPoDpwrg7LMr6aST1ad-JRVtwwi-eoGSwishVO7kSA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 15:22, Russell Coker via linux-aus
<linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:
> Does anyone else have server resources that can be shared with the free
> software community at negligible effort?

Not a server resource, but here's some software I wrote that might be
helpful to other LUGs that have been using BigBlueButton:

https://github.com/plugorgau/bbb-render

This takes the assets from a recording of a BBB meeting (webcam video,
slide images, screenshare video), and combines them into a single
video file suitable for archiving and uploading to services like
YouTube. It also gives an opportunity to brand the video through a
backdrop image (placed behind the slides/video), and title/end cards
to bookend the presentation (which can either be static images or
videos).

The main reason for working on this was that we have been using
another organisation's BBB instance, and wanted to make sure we
wouldn't lose the recordings should that org stop maintaining the BBB
server. We also wanted to have both our BBB and non-BBB presentations
available at the same place, which means they need to be available in
a lowest common denominator format (i.e. self contained video files).

While we'd originally considered BBB for remote meetings during
lockdown, it's turned out to be an acceptable method to stream and
record in-person meetings too:

1. Have a video camera pointed at the presenter, hooked up via an HDMI
capture device to the AV laptop. It'll look like any other webcam to
BBB.
2. Hook the presenter's mic to the AV laptop. We're using a cheap
mixing board with wireless mics that appears as a USB audio device.
3. Have the presenter log into BBB on their laptop. Either upload PDF
slides into BBB and present directly, or start BBB's screen sharing
and use virtually anything else.

James.

From ljk+la at ljk.id.au  Fri Mar  4 18:17:22 2022
From: ljk+la at ljk.id.au (Les Kitchen)
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 18:17:22 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] efficiency of user groups
In-Reply-To: <5679646.sC5gfIvSK5@xev>
References: <5679646.sC5gfIvSK5@xev>
Message-ID: <790f0fdf-ca22-4457-a593-f20a907a3f5c@www.fastmail.com>

Hi Russell,

On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, at 18:21, Russell Coker via linux-aus wrote:
> When running users' groups we don't want to waste effort reinventing wheels.  
> Ideally we have people doing mostly what they are good at and what provides a 
> benefit to users that can't be gained elsewhere.
...

Some very good ideas.  Thanks for floating them.  Certainly as
Free Software Melbourne / Free Software Australia we've
struggled with setting up and maintaining group infrastructure,
like mailing lists and websites.  I'll bring this up with our
FSA committee.  There is some tension between sharing and
maintaining autonomy, but I think that's resolvable with
goodwill.

More in a little while...


? Smiles, Les.

From russell at coker.com.au  Fri Mar  4 23:42:31 2022
From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker)
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 23:42:31 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] Flounder Meeting tomorrow (Saturday) 1PM Melbourne time
Message-ID: <1756129.6MHN9KAyuN@xev>

https://flounder.linux.org.au/events/march-2022-mailservers/

Mailservers, hands-on tutorial setting up Postfix, etc.  Above is the link for 
the event.  Maybe some discussion of Matrix.

https://flounder.linux.org.au/events.ics

Above is the link for the iCal file which I encourage people to use as the 
primary source of notifications.

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From russell at coker.com.au  Sun Mar  6 21:31:19 2022
From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker)
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2022 21:31:19 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] March Meeting report
Message-ID: <29405681.7FqedBJUTx@xev>

https://flounder.linux.org.au/2022/03/06/march-2022-meeting/

The above page has the March Flounder meeting report.  I encourage everyone to 
consider getting a Matrix account (ask me for one at luv.asn.au or select one 
of the many other servers giving free accounts) and a Mastodon account (NZOSS 
processes applications quickly).

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From jwoithe at just42.net  Tue Mar  8 14:35:58 2022
From: jwoithe at just42.net (Jonathan Woithe)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:05:58 +1030
Subject: [Linux-aus] data.gov.au consultation is open
Message-ID: <20220308033557.GB12819@marvin.atrad.com.au>

Hi everyone

The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) is looking for users of
data.gov.au and data providers to provide feedback about the services they
offer.  To register your interest please email info at data.gov.au:

    Subject: Expression of interest for Consultation

    Name:
    Organisation:
    Contact number (optional):
    Are you a data provider (uploader) or data user:

Alternatively, refer to the information on the data.gov.au front page at

    https://data.gov.au/

Regards
  jonathan

From jwoithe at just42.net  Wed Mar 16 22:36:31 2022
From: jwoithe at just42.net (Jonathan Woithe)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 22:06:31 +1030
Subject: [Linux-aus] 2022 Linux Australia Grants program is open
Message-ID: <20220316113631.GA22651@marvin.atrad.com.au>

Hi everyone

Linux Australia is pleased to announce the opening of the 2022 grants
program in support of free and open source systems and communities in
Australia and New Zealand.  Funding can be sought by members of Linux
Australia for open source, open data, open government, open education, open
hardware and open culture projects.

Applications for funding will close at 23:59 on 4 September 2022 anywhere on
earth with grant awards finalised by the end of September unless the grant
funds are exhausted earlier.  However, work funded through the program may
continue past this date.  Project timelines are negotiable, but in most
cases projects should aim to be completed by the end of 2022.

For more information and to apply, first log in to the Linux Australia
website at

  https://linux.org.au/

Then click on the "Grants" banner or go to

  https://linux.org.au/grants-program/

If you have questions about the Grants program or would like to discuss
ideas, please get in touch with the Linux Australia Council
(council at linux.org.au).

We look forward to reading your submissions.


Jonathan Woithe
(on behalf of the Linux Australia Council)

From russell at coker.com.au  Sun Mar 20 20:47:24 2022
From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 20:47:24 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] xkbcomp problem
Message-ID: <3508669.xcYpx6AGnn@xev>

xkb_keymap {
 xkb_keycodes {
 include "evdev+aliases(qwerty)"
 <PGUP> = 108;
 <PGDN> = 134;
 <ESC> = 180;
 };

 xkb_types     { include "complete"     };
 xkb_compat    { include "complete"     };
 xkb_symbols   { include "pc+us+inet(evdev)"    };
 xkb_geometry  { include "pc(pc105)"    };
};

I'm trying to use the above config file for xkbcomp to set PGUP and PGDN 
functions to the right "command" and "alt"/"option" keys on a Mac style 
bluetooth keyboard and to set the ESC function to the key that gives the ESC 
press if I hold down "fn" but which otherwise is apparently supposed to give 
the function of a square (whatever that means).

I run xkbcomp with that file as a parameter, it does stuff and gives a bunch 
of errors unrelated to what I did, but doesn't set the ESC, PGUP, and PGDN 
functions.

Any suggestions?

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From neonsignal-linux at meme.net.au  Sun Mar 20 23:57:45 2022
From: neonsignal-linux at meme.net.au (Glenn McIntosh)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 23:57:45 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] xkbcomp problem
In-Reply-To: <3508669.xcYpx6AGnn@xev>
References: <3508669.xcYpx6AGnn@xev>
Message-ID: <0895f443-f813-676f-17e4-39f6f4902e9a@meme.net.au>

On 20/3/22 20:47, Russell Coker via linux-aus wrote:
>  <PGUP> = 108;
>  <PGDN> = 134;
>  <ESC> = 180;
> 
> I'm trying to use the above config file for xkbcomp to set PGUP and PGDN 
> functions to the right "command" and "alt"/"option" keys on a Mac style 
> bluetooth keyboard and to set the ESC function to the key that gives the ESC 
> press if I hold down "fn"

I'm not totally clear on what you are trying to do (as I don't have a
Mac keyboard), so bear with me if I'm telling you something obvious
here. Mappings go from codes numbers to symbols to key functions.

For example, if I have:

xkb_keymap {
 xkb_keycodes {
 include "evdev+aliases(qwerty)"
 <PGUP> = 108;
 };
 xkb_types     { include "complete"     };
 xkb_compat    { include "complete"     };
 xkb_symbols   { include "pc+us+inet(evdev)"    };
 xkb_geometry  { include "pc(pc105)"    };
};

and run the following (sending the configuration straight to my X setup
instead of compiling to a file)

xkbcomp example.xkb :0.0

this maps my 108 keycode (labelled Alt on the right side of my physical
keyboard) to the symbol PGUP, which in turn gets mapped by the include
file to the function of page up (ie, if I press the right Alt it will
now page up in my document), and has the side effect that the keycode
112 (labelled PGUP on my physical keyboard) is no longer mapped to anything

Glenn
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From russell at coker.com.au  Mon Mar 21 16:09:48 2022
From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 16:09:48 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] xkbcomp problem
In-Reply-To: <0895f443-f813-676f-17e4-39f6f4902e9a@meme.net.au>
References: <3508669.xcYpx6AGnn@xev>
 <0895f443-f813-676f-17e4-39f6f4902e9a@meme.net.au>
Message-ID: <29428480.gVUZcTydkA@xev>

On Sunday, 20 March 2022 23:57:45 AEDT Glenn McIntosh via linux-aus wrote:
> On 20/3/22 20:47, Russell Coker via linux-aus wrote:
> >  <PGUP> = 108;
> >  <PGDN> = 134;
> >  <ESC> = 180;
> > 
> > I'm trying to use the above config file for xkbcomp to set PGUP and PGDN
> > functions to the right "command" and "alt"/"option" keys on a Mac style
> > bluetooth keyboard and to set the ESC function to the key that gives the
> > ESC press if I hold down "fn"
> 
> I'm not totally clear on what you are trying to do (as I don't have a
> Mac keyboard), so bear with me if I'm telling you something obvious
> here. Mappings go from codes numbers to symbols to key functions.
> 
> For example, if I have:
> 
> xkb_keymap {
>  xkb_keycodes {
>  include "evdev+aliases(qwerty)"
>  <PGUP> = 108;
>  };
>  xkb_types     { include "complete"     };
>  xkb_compat    { include "complete"     };
>  xkb_symbols   { include "pc+us+inet(evdev)"    };
>  xkb_geometry  { include "pc(pc105)"    };
> };
> 
> and run the following (sending the configuration straight to my X setup
> instead of compiling to a file)
> 
> xkbcomp example.xkb :0.0
> 
> this maps my 108 keycode (labelled Alt on the right side of my physical
> keyboard) to the symbol PGUP, which in turn gets mapped by the include
> file to the function of page up (ie, if I press the right Alt it will
> now page up in my document), and has the side effect that the keycode
> 112 (labelled PGUP on my physical keyboard) is no longer mapped to anything

Yes, that's what I'm trying to do.  The keyboard in question has no key 
labeled PGUP so whatever the mapping for that may be it's not usable.

Also I'm using Wayland on a Librem5, that's supposed to work the same way as X 
for such things isn't it?

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From neonsignal-linux at meme.net.au  Mon Mar 21 23:01:53 2022
From: neonsignal-linux at meme.net.au (Glenn McIntosh)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 23:01:53 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] xkbcomp problem
In-Reply-To: <29428480.gVUZcTydkA@xev>
References: <3508669.xcYpx6AGnn@xev>
 <0895f443-f813-676f-17e4-39f6f4902e9a@meme.net.au> <29428480.gVUZcTydkA@xev>
Message-ID: <ae19de29-2306-5db3-3c7a-9fcf1cd99a21@meme.net.au>

On 21/3/22 16:09, Russell Coker wrote:
> Also I'm using Wayland on a Librem5, that's supposed to work the same way as X 
> for such things isn't it?

>From what I read, under Wayland, xkbcomp to the display will only affect
the XWayland proxy and so only the X11 applications which use it. I
don't have any experience with how keyboard configuration is done in
Wayland proper.

Glenn
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From russell at coker.com.au  Wed Mar 23 21:47:13 2022
From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 21:47:13 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] Librem 5 on ebay
Message-ID: <5570454.hBBHL1L4Mo@xev>

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/185343264105?
hash=item2b2751c569:g:ZG0AAOSwFUFiMnKV&frcectupt=true

$440 is the current bid, much less than I paid and you will get delivery years 
faster.

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From russell at coker.com.au  Fri Mar 25 17:05:17 2022
From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 17:05:17 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] Precursor
Message-ID: <2661145.gJeH3ERlat@xev>

https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor#products

This is an interesting project, a soft-core RISC-V in a platform the size of a 
phone with a hardware keyboard.  Designed as some sort of hand held encryption 
device or PDA with lots of GPIO.  Bunnie is one of the co-creators.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXlUQHhgcUk

Here's Bunnie's keynote from LCA 2013.

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From mithro at mithis.com  Tue Mar 29 04:03:40 2022
From: mithro at mithis.com (Tim 'mithro' Ansell)
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 10:03:40 -0700
Subject: [Linux-aus] Precursor
In-Reply-To: <2661145.gJeH3ERlat@xev>
References: <2661145.gJeH3ERlat@xev>
Message-ID: <CAHLUNMzzJG3TZR7-DwibRTsTttUw8YzmedOH8WyJvy-vS+U-Hw@mail.gmail.com>

Bunnie gave a more recent talk about the BeTrusted project -
https://betrusted.io/ - (which Precursor is part of)  at LCA2020 (last in
person LCA before the pandemic!).
 - Recording @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pIr3Q7gqNI
 - Slides @ https://p.xobs.io/lca20-bt

The RTL running on the Precursor is based on a lot of stuff that has
previously been presented at LCA too. For example;
 * FPGA Miniconf @
https://github.com/timvideos/litex-buildenv/wiki/HowTo-LCA2018-FPGA-Miniconf

 * The Fomu project (https://workshop.fomu.im/) which was followed on from
the Tomu project;
    - https://lca2020.linux.org.au/schedule/presentation/154/
    - https://lca2019.linux.org.au/schedule/presentation/103/
    - https://p.xobs.io/lca2019/#/
    - (more info from CCCamp19) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBfC-oxvaqM
 * Open source FPGA tooling (previously called SymbiFlow, now called F4PGA)
   - https://lca2021.linux.org.au/schedule/presentation/110/
   - https://2019.linux.conf.au/schedule/presentation/140/
 * HDMI2USB and NeTV2 projects (used to capture Linux.conf.au videos!)
   - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4D-6IPX308
   - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkVX_mh5dOU
   - (PyCon AU) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNantzHGxIs
   - (more info from 35C3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlmVxR0417c

Hopefully people find this interesting!

Tim 'mithro' Ansell

On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 at 23:05, Russell Coker via linux-aus <
linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:

> https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor#products
>
> This is an interesting project, a soft-core RISC-V in a platform the size
> of a
> phone with a hardware keyboard.  Designed as some sort of hand held
> encryption
> device or PDA with lots of GPIO.  Bunnie is one of the co-creators.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXlUQHhgcUk
>
> Here's Bunnie's keynote from LCA 2013.
>
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>
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From heracles1108 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 29 09:57:54 2022
From: heracles1108 at gmail.com (Ashley)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 09:57:54 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] Display problem
Message-ID: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm not sure which list to put this on but:

I have 3 computers Running Linux Mint:-

An old Lenovo gen 2 core i5 with 12 GB RAM which seems to run everything 
perfectly

A new intel pentium gold 4-core machine with 16 GB Ram which often is 
unable to display pictures in Facebook with the latest version of both 
Firefox and Chromium and

A new Ryzon 5 3600 with 32 GB RAM and an nVidia 710 video card which 
also has the same display problem with Firefox and Chromium.

All three have some form of 256GB solid state drive as a primary and a 
One TB sata HDD.

I tried running SUSE 15 on the Ryzon but it locks up occasionally and 
forces me to use a hard reboot.

Note: the message on the page says to get a later version of the browser 
or restart it. I have the latest versions and restarting achieves nothing.

Is this a known problem or have I missed something?

Regards

Ashley


From chris at martin.cc  Tue Mar 29 14:03:24 2022
From: chris at martin.cc (Chris Martin)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:03:24 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] Display problem
In-Reply-To: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
References: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADu8HpKc4jp3wy4t_aPFo6oHKtz1N7HsK+T00=zCb2E8zFmzeA@mail.gmail.com>

Just a thought, could be a Wayland issue.
You could try switching to X11 and try

Cheers

--------------------------------------------------------
Chris Martin
m: +61 419 812 371
e: chris at martin.cc
--------------------------------------------------------



On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 11:14, Ashley via linux-aus <
linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure which list to put this on but:
>
> I have 3 computers Running Linux Mint:-
>
> An old Lenovo gen 2 core i5 with 12 GB RAM which seems to run everything
> perfectly
>
> A new intel pentium gold 4-core machine with 16 GB Ram which often is
> unable to display pictures in Facebook with the latest version of both
> Firefox and Chromium and
>
> A new Ryzon 5 3600 with 32 GB RAM and an nVidia 710 video card which
> also has the same display problem with Firefox and Chromium.
>
> All three have some form of 256GB solid state drive as a primary and a
> One TB sata HDD.
>
> I tried running SUSE 15 on the Ryzon but it locks up occasionally and
> forces me to use a hard reboot.
>
> Note: the message on the page says to get a later version of the browser
> or restart it. I have the latest versions and restarting achieves nothing.
>
> Is this a known problem or have I missed something?
>
> Regards
>
> Ashley
>
> _______________________________________________
> linux-aus mailing list
> linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au
> http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus
>
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From ianbrown78 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 29 14:35:07 2022
From: ianbrown78 at gmail.com (Ian Brown)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 13:35:07 +1000
Subject: [Linux-aus] Display problem
In-Reply-To: <CADu8HpKc4jp3wy4t_aPFo6oHKtz1N7HsK+T00=zCb2E8zFmzeA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
 <CADu8HpKc4jp3wy4t_aPFo6oHKtz1N7HsK+T00=zCb2E8zFmzeA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPeO7+hPyvHYN-0FspeVZi2UBcQtxrbYq1HXh3Rdczvn9JCeUA@mail.gmail.com>

I had the same issue with Elementary OS, then Zorin OS. Switched back to
Ubuntu and the issue didn't surface.
Same hardware and browser versions throughout. (Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen
6 with Google Chrome & Firefox)
KDE on PopOS appears to exhibit some weird spacing issues on instagram in
place of not displaying images. Though I don't remember seeing the issue on
Gnome.
The issue wasn't present on Ubuntu with either Gnome or KDE.
I haven't yet tested on Fedora, though I will likely next week.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 1:04 PM Chris Martin via linux-aus <
linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:

> Just a thought, could be a Wayland issue.
> You could try switching to X11 and try
>
> Cheers
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Chris Martin
> m: +61 419 812 371
> e: chris at martin.cc
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 11:14, Ashley via linux-aus <
> linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not sure which list to put this on but:
>>
>> I have 3 computers Running Linux Mint:-
>>
>> An old Lenovo gen 2 core i5 with 12 GB RAM which seems to run everything
>> perfectly
>>
>> A new intel pentium gold 4-core machine with 16 GB Ram which often is
>> unable to display pictures in Facebook with the latest version of both
>> Firefox and Chromium and
>>
>> A new Ryzon 5 3600 with 32 GB RAM and an nVidia 710 video card which
>> also has the same display problem with Firefox and Chromium.
>>
>> All three have some form of 256GB solid state drive as a primary and a
>> One TB sata HDD.
>>
>> I tried running SUSE 15 on the Ryzon but it locks up occasionally and
>> forces me to use a hard reboot.
>>
>> Note: the message on the page says to get a later version of the browser
>> or restart it. I have the latest versions and restarting achieves nothing.
>>
>> Is this a known problem or have I missed something?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ashley
>>
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From linux at eyal.emu.id.au  Tue Mar 29 15:45:16 2022
From: linux at eyal.emu.id.au (Eyal Lebedinsky)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 15:45:16 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] Display problem
In-Reply-To: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
References: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
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On 29/03/2022 09.57, Ashley via linux-aus wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure which list to put this on but:
> 
> I have 3 computers Running Linux Mint:-
> 
> An old Lenovo gen 2 core i5 with 12 GB RAM which seems to run everything perfectly
> 
> A new intel pentium gold 4-core machine with 16 GB Ram which often is unable to display pictures in Facebook with the latest version of both Firefox and Chromium and

What does "unable to display" mean here?

> A new Ryzon 5 3600 with 32 GB RAM and an nVidia 710 video card which also has the same display problem with Firefox and Chromium.

I have a 710 and it works well when in use (it is now on the shelf).

> All three have some form of 256GB solid state drive as a primary and a One TB sata HDD.
> 
> I tried running SUSE 15 on the Ryzon but it locks up occasionally and forces me to use a hard reboot.
> 
> Note: the message on the page says to get a later version of the browser or restart it. I have the latest versions and restarting achieves nothing.
> 
> Is this a known problem or have I missed something?

At times I see this issue too, even when I clearly have the latest ff installed. I am then forced to fire up
a windows/10 laptop if there is important need (e.g. online conferencing).

I run fedora 34.

> Regards
> 
> Ashley

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From russell at coker.com.au  Tue Mar 29 17:57:51 2022
From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 17:57:51 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] Display problem
In-Reply-To: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
References: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
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On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 09:57:54 AEDT Ashley via linux-aus wrote:
> I'm not sure which list to put this on but:
> 
> I have 3 computers Running Linux Mint:-

What version of Linux Mint?  Same version on all of them?

> An old Lenovo gen 2 core i5 with 12 GB RAM which seems to run everything
> perfectly

What video card?

> A new intel pentium gold 4-core machine with 16 GB Ram which often is
> unable to display pictures in Facebook with the latest version of both
> Firefox and Chromium and

What video card?

> A new Ryzon 5 3600 with 32 GB RAM and an nVidia 710 video card which
> also has the same display problem with Firefox and Chromium.

I gave up on nVidia cards, they always had problems.  Nouveau was never 
reliable for me and running the proprietary kernel modules was a security 
issue and would have restricted my choice of kernel.

> All three have some form of 256GB solid state drive as a primary and a
> One TB sata HDD.
> 
> I tried running SUSE 15 on the Ryzon but it locks up occasionally and
> forces me to use a hard reboot.

Tried running Memtest86+?

The machine I'm using now is a HP ML110 Gen9 and my wife's machine is a Dell 
T320.  Using ECC RAM for everything that's important reduces the strange 
lockup issues.

> Note: the message on the page says to get a later version of the browser
> or restart it. I have the latest versions and restarting achieves nothing.

Which web page?

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From eyal at eyal.emu.id.au  Tue Mar 29 12:50:18 2022
From: eyal at eyal.emu.id.au (Eyal Lebedinsky)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:50:18 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] Display problem
In-Reply-To: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
References: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ea5c2918-e49f-a979-4378-354d8e3aa04b@eyal.emu.id.au>



On 29/03/2022 09.57, Ashley via linux-aus wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure which list to put this on but:
> 
> I have 3 computers Running Linux Mint:-
> 
> An old Lenovo gen 2 core i5 with 12 GB RAM which seems to run everything perfectly
> 
> A new intel pentium gold 4-core machine with 16 GB Ram which often is unable to display pictures in Facebook with the latest version of both Firefox and Chromium and

What does "unable to display" mean here?

> A new Ryzon 5 3600 with 32 GB RAM and an nVidia 710 video card which also has the same display problem with Firefox and Chromium.

I have a 710 and it works well when in use (it is now on the shelf).

> All three have some form of 256GB solid state drive as a primary and a One TB sata HDD.
> 
> I tried running SUSE 15 on the Ryzon but it locks up occasionally and forces me to use a hard reboot.
> 
> Note: the message on the page says to get a later version of the browser or restart it. I have the latest versions and restarting achieves nothing.
> 
> Is this a known problem or have I missed something?

At times I see this issue too, even when I clearly have the latest ff installed. I am then forced to fire up
a windows/10 laptop if there is important need (e.g. online conferencing).

I run fedora 34.

> Regards
> 
> Ashley

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From allenb at iisys.com.au  Tue Mar 29 19:29:30 2022
From: allenb at iisys.com.au (Allen Benter)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 19:29:30 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] Display problem
In-Reply-To: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
References: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF_-tjPws6z5piqFXTdJ+K-ys4nk0qpeRC3nqfFmrZ-kGVN8gA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ashley,

I run Tumbleweed as my daily driver, and noticed over the last few months
that Firefox locked up or froze quite often.  I switched to Edge and
haven't had any problems with freezing since.

Dell Laptop XPS i7-4600 (now getting quite old, but still fast enough for
my use)
16GB RAM, SSD
Gnome 42 on Wayland

(sent this earlier, but neglected to include the list)

Cheers,
Allen

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:15 AM Ashley via linux-aus <
linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure which list to put this on but:
>
> I have 3 computers Running Linux Mint:-
>
> An old Lenovo gen 2 core i5 with 12 GB RAM which seems to run everything
> perfectly
>
> A new intel pentium gold 4-core machine with 16 GB Ram which often is
> unable to display pictures in Facebook with the latest version of both
> Firefox and Chromium and
>
> A new Ryzon 5 3600 with 32 GB RAM and an nVidia 710 video card which
> also has the same display problem with Firefox and Chromium.
>
> All three have some form of 256GB solid state drive as a primary and a
> One TB sata HDD.
>
> I tried running SUSE 15 on the Ryzon but it locks up occasionally and
> forces me to use a hard reboot.
>
> Note: the message on the page says to get a later version of the browser
> or restart it. I have the latest versions and restarting achieves nothing.
>
> Is this a known problem or have I missed something?
>
> Regards
>
> Ashley
>
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From heracles1108 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 29 23:43:23 2022
From: heracles1108 at gmail.com (Ashley)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:43:23 +1100
Subject: [Linux-aus] Display problem
In-Reply-To: <CAF_-tjPws6z5piqFXTdJ+K-ys4nk0qpeRC3nqfFmrZ-kGVN8gA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <75d78924-0c5c-841b-0115-722bcb447d91@gmail.com>
 <CAF_-tjPws6z5piqFXTdJ+K-ys4nk0qpeRC3nqfFmrZ-kGVN8gA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d21cebb8-4356-6497-fc89-9be6aaf7c3ea@gmail.com>

Hi,

Sorry for posting above but I thought it might be easier.

I am running the latest linux mint AMD64 version on the machines.

By fails to display I mean that I get a square outline with the message 
to either reboot the browser or update it (I'm using the latest version 
and rebooting it doesn't help).

I have also noticed that it takes Linux Mint around 90 seconds after the 
logo comes onto the screen to boot to the login screen.

Thanks for all the suggestions I am trying all of them.

Ashley

On 29/3/22 19:29, Allen Benter via linux-aus wrote:
> Hi Ashley,
>
> I run Tumbleweed as my daily driver, and noticed over the last few 
> months that Firefox locked up or froze quite often. I switched to Edge 
> and haven't had any problems with freezing since.
>
> Dell Laptop XPS i7-4600 (now getting quite old, but still fast enough 
> for my use)
> 16GB RAM, SSD
> Gnome 42 on Wayland
>
> (sent this earlier, but neglected to include the list)
>
> Cheers,
> Allen
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 11:15 AM Ashley via linux-aus 
> <linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I'm not sure which list to put this on but:
>
>     I have 3 computers Running Linux Mint:-
>
>     An old Lenovo gen 2 core i5 with 12 GB RAM which seems to run
>     everything
>     perfectly
>
>     A new intel pentium gold 4-core machine with 16 GB Ram which often is
>     unable to display pictures in Facebook with the latest version of
>     both
>     Firefox and Chromium and
>
>     A new Ryzon 5 3600 with 32 GB RAM and an nVidia 710 video card which
>     also has the same display problem with Firefox and Chromium.
>
>     All three have some form of 256GB solid state drive as a primary
>     and a
>     One TB sata HDD.
>
>     I tried running SUSE 15 on the Ryzon but it locks up occasionally and
>     forces me to use a hard reboot.
>
>     Note: the message on the page says to get a later version of the
>     browser
>     or restart it. I have the latest versions and restarting achieves
>     nothing.
>
>     Is this a known problem or have I missed something?
>
>     Regards
>
>     Ashley
>
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