From daisy at daisy.wtf Mon Aug 1 13:37:08 2022 From: daisy at daisy.wtf (Daisy Leigh Brenecki) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2022 13:37:08 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] LCA 2023 ? Message-ID: <3ee947ac-8fc8-4982-bf13-de336c2aa4ca@www.fastmail.com> Hi all, I wanted to reply to some of the discussion here about conference organising. Apologies for ruining everyone's threading; I wasn't in the mailing list earlier so don't have the message-IDs of the emails to reply correctly. > Volunteers will always be necessary, but the rest of it isn't. > It almost happened during the pandemic. > In an environment as geographically diverse as Australia, with people 1000s > of kms apart, nobody has clicked on to running virtual summits/conferences. > We have the software and know how, yet somehow the logical medium never > happens. LA has indeed run virtual conferences: PyCon AU 2020 (which I chaired), Linux.conf.au 2020, PyCon AU 2021 and Linux.conf.au 2021. The thing is, these conferences still require just as much energy and effort. The core team of PyCon AU 2020 started planning our online event in March when the pandemic first hit Australia, and we were still forced to delay the event a month and hold it in August. Even then, making the conference actually happen on time was a huge challenge, and no doubt the source of a few gray hairs for my team and I. The vast majority of the labour still needs to be done. There is still a Call for Proposals, proposal review, and program selection process. We still need sponsors, since the cost of an online event is certainly *less* but still a non-trivial amount?think five figures instead of six. We still need to put all the community management in place, and promote the conference so people show up, and all those other things. Plus, there's additional complexities you don't have in person. The biggest one is AV, and a huge amount of person-hours went into making our speakers look and sound good; months and months of planning from Ryan, and one-on-one tech checks with every single one of our ~80 speakers in the weeks prior to the conference. But there's others too, like figuring out how to preserve the conference as an engaging social event in a totally different format. All in all, we had a total of ~30 volunteers working back stage across the PyCon AU weekend, which is on the high end of how many we'd have at an in-person conference, and at least about 8 or 10 of those were also people had dedicated the previous six months of our lives to making it happen, which is not a small ask. And while we're not in 2020 anymore, the pandemic shows no signs of abating, and is still very much affecting the amount of energy and spare time that people have to volunteer for these things. All this is to say: I'm sure LAC and the site team have online options on their radar, having already run two LCAs that way, but it's also important to acknowledge that it's not an option that substantially reduces the volunteer person-hours needed, or the other challenges involved in holding events at this scale :) Daisy Leigh Brenecki /?de?.zi 'li? b??'n?ki/ (DAY-zee LEE br?-NE-kee) ? she/her ? Melbourne (UTC+10/+11) From joel at addison.net.au Wed Aug 3 16:55:46 2022 From: joel at addison.net.au (Joel Addison) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 16:55:46 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] LCA 2023 ? In-Reply-To: References: <07382cda-01e6-e5a2-9977-a80f9cb00b68@kathyreid.id.au> Message-ID: Hi Andrew, Thanks for following up about this. Unfortunately some things with the organisation have taken longer than anticipated, so the announcement hasn?t come as quickly as I planned. We are close to having them resolved now, so we will get that announcement out as soon as we can. In the meantime, I encourage you to start sounding out people who might like to give a presentation, and potential sponsors you might know of. All of that will be useful once we get things lined up. Kind regards, Joel > On 30 Jul 2022, at 10:17 pm, Andrew Donnellan via linux-aus wrote: > > Hi Kathy, > > On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 at 20:32, Kathy Reid via linux-aus > wrote: > My point is this - LCA, PyConAU and similar events simply don't run if we don't have volunteers to run them. And if the events weren't fun, or worthwhile, or high value, we wouldn't have people missing them. In a perverse way, it's a good thing that we're missing LCA and PyConAU - because it's highlighted the invisible labour, the taken-for-granted volunteers and the thousands of hours of time and passion that go into these events. We've gotten comfortable expecting an LCA every January or a PyConAU every September. Because the work of delivering them has been hidden - behind maturity, behind dedicated people, behind better processes and systems and technology and communications. > > Without that passion, that time, that labour, these events don't happen. So, if you want an open source event to happen in 2023, you know what to do. Patches welcome. > > I absolutely appreciate all of these points, as someone who personally saw through a series of fully volunteer-run conferences from 2013-16 from initial conception through to making the final call to dissolve our association and archive the website - for precisely the reason you described: we determined that we had no sustainable pipeline of volunteers. I spent many, many hours doing just about everything - running a CFP, calling insurance brokers, filling out tax paperwork, handling travel bookings for speakers, packing bags with conference shirts... (and so I also understand why people *don't* volunteer!) I have seen just the tiniest glimpse into the enormous effort that is organising an LCA after running a miniconf for 6 years - I would personally love to help out LCA more, but unfortunately being a miniconf organiser is currently the upper bound of my ability to contribute to LCA given my role on the committees of two other non-profits (that, just like LA, are struggling immensely to recruit volunteers). > > The specific motivation behind my question was to get a bit of clarity as to whether I might end up running a miniconf again at LCA2023, whether I should start sounding out some contacts who may be interested in submitting miniconf talks, and a potential sponsorship opportunity I'm looking at. I appreciate your point that Joel is also very busy and has a lot to do, and with the benefit of hindsight my last email should have been less curt and a bit more respectful. Joel's last email did suggest that some decisions and announcements are in the pipeline and I'm eager to hear what they are - whether it be a regular LCA, an online event, or a decision to take a break and reset ourselves for 2024 (a very reasonable choice!). > > > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Donnellan > http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quozl at laptop.org Wed Aug 3 17:14:40 2022 From: quozl at laptop.org (James Cameron) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 17:14:40 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] admin-team? Message-ID: <20220803071440.GB1780601@laptop.org> Is admin-team at linux.org.au still the right place to write to with linux.org.au configuration problems? From steve at nerdvana.org.au Wed Aug 3 17:33:11 2022 From: steve at nerdvana.org.au (Steve Walsh) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 17:33:11 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] admin-team? In-Reply-To: <20220803071440.GB1780601@laptop.org> References: <20220803071440.GB1780601@laptop.org> Message-ID: Hi James Yes, that's correct address and we've got your email, it's on my to-do list for tonight. regards On 3/8/22 17:14, James Cameron via linux-aus wrote: > Is admin-team at linux.org.au still the right place to write to with linux.org.au configuration problems? > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au From russell at coker.com.au Wed Aug 3 18:34:42 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2022 18:34:42 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Flounder Meeting Saturday 6th August 01:00UTC Message-ID: <2314992.9fHWaBTJ5E@xev> Main topic of the meeting will be SE Linux, but there will be lots of discussion about other FOSS things and a teaser for some future security related meetings. https://flounder.linux.org.au/events/flounder-aug-2022-selinux/ -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From russell at coker.com.au Wed Aug 3 19:07:10 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2022 19:07:10 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Flounder Meeting Saturday 6th August 03:00UTC In-Reply-To: <2314992.9fHWaBTJ5E@xev> References: <2314992.9fHWaBTJ5E@xev> Message-ID: <11857386.eQLIkvUDd3@xev> On Wednesday, 3 August 2022 18:34:42 AEST Russell Coker wrote: > Main topic of the meeting will be SE Linux, but there will be lots of > discussion about other FOSS things and a teaser for some future security > related meetings. > > https://flounder.linux.org.au/events/flounder-aug-2022-selinux/ Sorry got the time wrong, this is 1PM Melbourne time AKA 03:00 UTC. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From saber at sayeed.email Tue Aug 9 19:31:50 2022 From: saber at sayeed.email (Saber Sayeed) Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 19:31:50 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Crowdfunding for IT projects Message-ID: <7d4e1ebd245bad4af4be46cd67a88c33@sayeed.email> Hello everyone, This is my first email to this mailing list. Does anyone know any crowdfunding website for non profitable IT/Technology projects? I heard about gofundme.com but it didn't sound right for IT/Technology projects. Best - Saber From linux at hughr.me Mon Aug 15 08:34:58 2022 From: linux at hughr.me (Hugh Rundle) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 08:34:58 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Crowdfunding for IT projects In-Reply-To: <7d4e1ebd245bad4af4be46cd67a88c33@sayeed.email> References: <7d4e1ebd245bad4af4be46cd67a88c33@sayeed.email> Message-ID: <6b99f652-a18a-4c1c-8d6a-4f9577605d51@www.fastmail.com> Hi Saber You might be interested in Open Collective - https://opencollective.com It's a crowdfunding site focused on transparency, and can also help with legal arrangements, though I don't know a lot about that aspect - it may be US focussed. There's also Chuffed - https://www.chuffed.org This is a bit like Go Fund Me but based in Australia and specifically aimed at non-profit causes. --- Hugh Rundle On Tue, 9 Aug 2022, at 7:31 PM, Saber Sayeed via linux-aus wrote: > Hello everyone, > > This is my first email to this mailing list. Does anyone know any > crowdfunding website for non profitable IT/Technology projects? I heard > about gofundme.com but it didn't sound right for IT/Technology projects. > > Best - Saber > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au From lukeh at hovo.id.au Mon Aug 15 12:55:04 2022 From: lukeh at hovo.id.au (Luke Hovington) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 12:55:04 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Crowdfunding for IT projects In-Reply-To: <6b99f652-a18a-4c1c-8d6a-4f9577605d51@www.fastmail.com> References: <7d4e1ebd245bad4af4be46cd67a88c33@sayeed.email> <6b99f652-a18a-4c1c-8d6a-4f9577605d51@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: Though not a crowd funding site, Tindie would be a good fit if your just looking for somewhere to sell your wares. https://www.tindie.com/ On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 at 08:35, Hugh Rundle via linux-aus < linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote: > Hi Saber > > You might be interested in Open Collective - https://opencollective.com > It's a crowdfunding site focused on transparency, and can also help with > legal arrangements, though I don't know a lot about that aspect - it may be > US focussed. > > There's also Chuffed - https://www.chuffed.org > This is a bit like Go Fund Me but based in Australia and specifically > aimed at non-profit causes. > > --- > Hugh Rundle > > On Tue, 9 Aug 2022, at 7:31 PM, Saber Sayeed via linux-aus wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > This is my first email to this mailing list. 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URL: From russell at coker.com.au Fri Aug 19 09:47:29 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 09:47:29 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] ML sysadmin job Message-ID: <10791116.5MRjnR8RnV@liv> Full-time Linux sysadmin position based in either Canberra or Melbourne with some WFH. Ideal candidate will have experience with HPC, ML, and NVidia hardware. Requirement is strong Linux sysadmin skills preferrably including experience with cloud services and servers with integrated management (preferrably iDRAC) and everything else is optional. The company is currently improving their position regarding ISO-27001 etc so experience with that sort of thing will be positive. The aim of the position is to support ML people so they can concentrate on their core work and then improve the environment to scale better etc. They want someone with my skills and will pay them decently. They haven't had success in finding such a person so will be prepared to accept someone with less skills at a rate that's still OK. If interested please reply off-list. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From russell at coker.com.au Fri Aug 19 09:57:09 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 09:57:09 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Flounder meeting tomorrow Message-ID: <5382133.29KlJPOoH8@liv> https://flounder.linux.org.au/events/flounder-august-2022-hack-day/ August Hack Meeting will be at http://b.coker.com.au. Starting 1PM Melbourne time that?s 03:00 UTC. Find some interesting FOSS stuff to work on, doesn?t have to be coding, can be editing documentation, filing bug reports, or improving Wikipedia. Get whatever snacks you need, then join in. The aim is we all work on interesting stuff and chat while doing it. Maybe we get some serious work done, maybe we make lots of jokes, who knows. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From ljk+la at ljk.id.au Sat Aug 27 11:03:03 2022 From: ljk+la at ljk.id.au (Les Kitchen) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2022 11:03:03 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Crowdfunding for IT projects In-Reply-To: <7d4e1ebd245bad4af4be46cd67a88c33@sayeed.email> References: <7d4e1ebd245bad4af4be46cd67a88c33@sayeed.email> Message-ID: <64ca00cc-3399-402f-86ae-38ca0aa72bc6@www.fastmail.com> Hi Saber (and other LA folk), On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, at 19:31, Saber Sayeed via linux-aus wrote: > This is my first email to this mailing list. Does anyone know any > crowdfunding website for non profitable IT/Technology projects? I heard > about gofundme.com but it didn't sound right for IT/Technology projects. Sorry for long delayed response ? I'm working through a backlog of mail. One outfit I've dealt with a lot (for years now, since 2018) is Crowd Supply: https://www.crowdsupply.com/ Their focus is on hardware, so it might not be a good fit to what you have in mind if that's all software. But these days almost all hardware has a large software / firmware component, and that's true of the projects on Crowd Supply too. So, if there's some hardware component to your project, then Crowd Supply might be worth looking into. One of the good things about Crowd Supply is their commitment to open hardware and software: "Our mission is to bring original, useful, respectful hardware to life." ? as they say on their About page: https://www.crowdsupply.com/about which also has their "Proclamation of User Rights". I've dealt with Crowd Supply only as a project backer, not a project initiator. But for that my experience has been generally very positive. A few glitches and annoyances now and then, but nothing major. I don't know whether there's any software-only analog of Crowd Supply. Does anybody know of such a thing? ? Smiles, Les. P.S. Two small, not immediately obvious things: 1. Though based in Oregon, USA, they usually have the option of AU power cords and power adapters. 2. For a couple of years they've been charging Australian GST for orders from Australia. The downside is that you can't avoid GST for cheap items. But the upside is that you don't have to hassle with Customs on arrival for expensive items. From russell at coker.com.au Tue Aug 30 01:47:26 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 01:47:26 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Sep 3rd Flounder Meeting PC Hardware Message-ID: <3360015.usfYGdeWWP@liv> https://flounder.linux.org.au/events/flounder-sep-2022-hardware-pc/ Sep event, PC hardware. Meeting will be at http://b.coker.com.au. No need to register just click on the link on the day. Meeting will cover many aspects of PC/Laptop hardware. How systems work, how to get them cheaply, how to fix/upgrade them, etc. Meeting officially opens at 1PM Melbourne time (03:00UTC) on Saturday 3rd Sep, but prior to that we have a 1 hour planning meeting which starts at 02:00UTC. Everyone is welcome to the planning meeting, if you have ideas on how to make Flounder better then please share them! Also starting with this event we will add a new rule for debating. For any contentious issue that you want to advocate you must write a blog post about it. No spending hours discussing things that we won't get an agreement on, have the people who advocate various positions blog it publicly and the world can learn from them. Anything that's not worth writing a blog post about isn't worth spending much time arguing about. If someone has political opinions that they don't want to share with the whole world then there's many ways of doing so that don't involve Flounder. If we were to do anything about countries such as Russia suppressing free speech then we could do so by having a meeting about running Tor servers etc. Not by having political debates at the meeting. https://planet.luv.asn.au/ Here's the URL for Planet Linux Australia, if you start a blog then let me know and I'll add it to that feed. It's not strictly Linux, any blog that has a large portion of posts about free software is acceptable. https://www.dreamwidth.org/ Dreamwidth is a free blog hosting platform that is well regarded, there are many others. We can have a meeting about running your own Wordpress site in future if there's interest. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/