From troy at box293.com Fri Jun 1 10:30:32 2018 From: troy at box293.com (Troy Lea) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 10:30:32 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Oseg -- Open Source Experts Group Message-ID: I subscribed to the oseg mailing list on May 21 (11 dyas ago) as per: https://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/oseg I get the "Your subscription request has been received, and will soon be acted upon" however I have not received any response. Is this list still active? Troy Lea IT Consultant and Nagios Developer troy at box293.com sites.box293.com/nagios -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noel.butler at ausics.net Mon Jun 4 17:10:53 2018 From: noel.butler at ausics.net (Noel Butler) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2018 17:10:53 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] REMINDER - Discussion on Linux Australia Grant requests is happening on a separate list this year In-Reply-To: References: <62b04e6a-b3ac-a154-1a1e-4779aa08996a@linux.org.au> <351311b725e6c55f5f37baaa4e5bdb8f@ausics.net>, <13db12c2-07c1-8c4e-9b9b-cf7d1386dfb2@linux.org.au> Message-ID: Cameron, your email was not received, you CC'd me directly, mailman will not usually send the list copy to recipients in such cases (it is configurable option), I also received no messages from this list at all, apart from mine on the 5th, until James Polley's on the 25th. What I did find in logs was your failed direct attempt Host not found; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Why people feel the need to reply directly is beyond me, we are members of a mailing list. your emails wont get to me anyway, faster by trying direct. Still, it would have been better to seek the memberships input, but apparently, I'm all alone in that thinking. I do see the point raised in that archive post, but... As for conspiracy, pfft, I've been a member of enough orgs over the past 30 plus years to know many have hidden agendas and like to operate in secrecy and dictatorships, so yeah, I consider all options since I've seen it first hand too many times then I care to remember. On 27/05/2018 21:45, Cameron Tudball via linux-aus wrote: > This is also ignoring the fact that I replied to Noel's email on the same afternoon that it was sent, outlining the rationale for the decision: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2018-May/023384.html [1] > > And the fact that the grants list is public - http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/grants/ [2] > > If there was a conspiracy, I'd rather like to think we would be better at it honestly. > > -- > Cameron Tudball > Vice-President > Linux Australia > ------------------------- > > FROM: linux-aus on behalf of Linux Australia President via linux-aus > SENT: Sunday, 27 May 2018 9:28 PM > TO: Noel Butler; linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > SUBJECT: Re: [Linux-aus] REMINDER - Discussion on Linux Australia Grant requests is happening on a separate list this year > > Hi Noel, I overlooked your email; it wasn't a conspiracy. > > The Council decided on a separate list after receiving feedback from some members of Linux Australia that while they wanted to have input into Grant Requests, they did *not* want to subscribe to the linux-aus list, given its history of, shall we say, some conversations that have become very heated. Most of our actions for continual improvement are driven, not by some dark "ulterior motive", but a desire for genuinely incorporating community feedback into our processes and practices. > > There's no secrecy at all, I've sent several communications to this list to say "hey, Grants List is over here". > > Here it is again. In plain text. Unencrypted. > > https://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/grants [3] > > Calling it "secrecy" is quite the strech, Noel ... > > Regards, > > Kathy -- Kind Regards, Noel Butler This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately. 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Is this list still > active? > > > Troy Lea > IT Consultant and Nagios Developer > troy at box293.com > sites.box293.com/nagios > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shirro at shirro.com Mon Jun 25 11:11:31 2018 From: shirro at shirro.com (Paul Shirren) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:41:31 +0930 Subject: [Linux-aus] Oseg -- Open Source Experts Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0b6a9e5e-d112-d17f-15e2-0b927ba08b7b@shirro.com> On 25/06/18 10:07, Troy Lea via linux-aus wrote: > I never received a response, who do I contact in regards to this? > Anyone able to respond probably reads this list. Is OSEG still around? Looking at wayback,? the web page and opensource.org.au went away years ago. It doesn't look like they have a web presence. They are possibly defunct. Perhaps we should have a poll of what lugs and orgs are still active. How is OSIA going? Their web page news seems to be updated regularly. I can't speak for the OSEG list but I think the lists in general need a review by the committee. Possibly as part of wider pruning and refocussing efforts. I signed up to do spam curation on a couple of lists over a decade ago and they haven't had a legitimate post for years and only serve as spam traps. Open source is obviously still going strong but communities have shifted as have the ways people choose to communicate and organise (sometimes for the worse). From president at linux.org.au Mon Jun 25 11:48:01 2018 From: president at linux.org.au (Linux Australia President) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:48:01 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Oseg -- Open Source Experts Group In-Reply-To: <0b6a9e5e-d112-d17f-15e2-0b927ba08b7b@shirro.com> References: <0b6a9e5e-d112-d17f-15e2-0b927ba08b7b@shirro.com> Message-ID: Thanks Paul, and apologies for the lack of response Troy. Yes, the Council currently has an active task for identifying active subcommittees and groups, and when we move to the new website we'll try and prune Mailman back as well. As always, many hands make light work so if you'd like to be involved in this activity, let us know :-) Best, Kathy On 25/06/18 11:11, Paul Shirren via linux-aus wrote: > On 25/06/18 10:07, Troy Lea via linux-aus wrote: > >> I never received a response, who do I contact in regards to this? >> > Anyone able to respond probably reads this list. Is OSEG still around? > Looking at wayback,? the web page and opensource.org.au went away years > ago. It doesn't look like they have a web presence. They are possibly > defunct. Perhaps we should have a poll of what lugs and orgs are still > active. How is OSIA going? Their web page news seems to be updated > regularly. > > I can't speak for the OSEG list but I think the lists in general need a > review by the committee. Possibly as part of wider pruning and > refocussing efforts. > > I signed up to do spam curation on a couple of lists over a decade ago > and they haven't had a legitimate post for years and only serve as spam > traps. Open source is obviously still going strong but communities have > shifted as have the ways people choose to communicate and organise > (sometimes for the worse). > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au -- Kathy Reid President Linux Australia 0418 130 636 president at linux.org.au http://linux.org.au Linux Australia Inc GPO Box 4788 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia ABN 56 987 117 479 From mark.phillips at automatedtestsystems.com.au Mon Jun 25 11:56:28 2018 From: mark.phillips at automatedtestsystems.com.au (Mark Phillips) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 11:56:28 +1000 (AEST) Subject: [Linux-aus] Oseg -- Open Source Experts Group In-Reply-To: References: <0b6a9e5e-d112-d17f-15e2-0b927ba08b7b@shirro.com> Message-ID: <1958436037.6242146.6736bd81-44ad-4293-b489-d7be6c515bfc.open-xchange@webmailox.com.au> > > How is OSIA going? Their web page news seems to be updated > > regularly. OSIA is going strong and well. We have a big month coming up in July. Stay tuned. Mark Phillips OSIA Chairman From troy at box293.com Mon Jun 25 13:24:11 2018 From: troy at box293.com (Troy Lea) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:24:11 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Oseg -- Open Source Experts Group In-Reply-To: References: <0b6a9e5e-d112-d17f-15e2-0b927ba08b7b@shirro.com> Message-ID: Appreciate the responses, I suspect it's defunct as well and some future pruning is required. I have some questions regarding open source projects and what happens when there is a fork and a community split that occurs, more-so questions about best practices in the aftermath. I don't think the linux-aus group is the right place to ask the questions hence why I though the OSEG mailing list might have been a good start. Does anyone have any other recommendations as to where I can discuss these topics? Troy Lea IT Consultant and Nagios Developer troy at box293.com sites.box293.com/nagios On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Linux Australia President via linux-aus < linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote: > Thanks Paul, and apologies for the lack of response Troy. > > Yes, the Council currently has an active task for identifying active > subcommittees and groups, and when we move to the new website we'll try > and prune Mailman back as well. > > As always, many hands make light work so if you'd like to be involved in > this activity, let us know :-) > > Best, Kathy > > > On 25/06/18 11:11, Paul Shirren via linux-aus wrote: > > On 25/06/18 10:07, Troy Lea via linux-aus wrote: > > > >> I never received a response, who do I contact in regards to this? > >> > > Anyone able to respond probably reads this list. Is OSEG still around? > > Looking at wayback, the web page and opensource.org.au went away years > > ago. It doesn't look like they have a web presence. They are possibly > > defunct. Perhaps we should have a poll of what lugs and orgs are still > > active. How is OSIA going? Their web page news seems to be updated > > regularly. > > > > I can't speak for the OSEG list but I think the lists in general need a > > review by the committee. Possibly as part of wider pruning and > > refocussing efforts. > > > > I signed up to do spam curation on a couple of lists over a decade ago > > and they haven't had a legitimate post for years and only serve as spam > > traps. Open source is obviously still going strong but communities have > > shifted as have the ways people choose to communicate and organise > > (sometimes for the worse). > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-aus mailing list > > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au > > -- > Kathy Reid > President > Linux Australia > > 0418 130 636 > > president at linux.org.au > http://linux.org.au > > Linux Australia Inc > GPO Box 4788 > Sydney NSW 2001 > Australia > > ABN 56 987 117 479 > > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cameron.shorter at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 13:33:21 2018 From: cameron.shorter at gmail.com (Cameron Shorter) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:33:21 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Oseg -- Open Source Experts Group In-Reply-To: References: <0b6a9e5e-d112-d17f-15e2-0b927ba08b7b@shirro.com> Message-ID: <989c6254-4248-43ed-2611-1311758522a8@gmail.com> Troy, If you haven't already found it, I suggest having a look at: https://producingoss.com/ This does a pretty good job of summarising best practices. I haven't been hovering on this long enough to suggest whether this is a good place to ask questions. (I'm hopeful that it is). If you ask here, or email me directly, I'm happy to take a crack at answering. (I've been on a few project steering committees and on an open source foundation board before.) On 25/6/18 1:24 pm, Troy Lea via linux-aus wrote: > Appreciate the responses, I suspect it's defunct as well and some > future pruning is required. > > I have some questions regarding open source projects and what happens > when there is a fork and a community split that occurs, more-so > questions about best practices in the aftermath. I don't think the > linux-aus group is the right place to ask the questions hence why I > though the OSEG mailing list might have been a good start. > > Does anyone have any other recommendations as to where I can discuss > these topics? > > > Troy Lea > IT Consultant and Nagios Developer > troy at box293.com > sites.box293.com/nagios > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Linux Australia President via > linux-aus > wrote: > > Thanks Paul, and apologies for the lack of response Troy. > > Yes, the Council currently has an active task for identifying active > subcommittees and groups, and when we move to the new website > we'll try > and prune Mailman back as well. > > As always, many hands make light work so if you'd like to be > involved in > this activity, let us know :-) > > Best, Kathy > > > On 25/06/18 11:11, Paul Shirren via linux-aus wrote: > > On 25/06/18 10:07, Troy Lea via linux-aus wrote: > > > >> I never received a response, who do I contact in regards to this? > >> > > Anyone able to respond probably reads this list. Is OSEG still > around? > > Looking at wayback,? the web page and opensource.org.au > went away years > > ago. It doesn't look like they have a web presence. They are > possibly > > defunct. Perhaps we should have a poll of what lugs and orgs are > still > > active. How is OSIA going? Their web page news seems to be updated > > regularly. > > > > I can't speak for the OSEG list but I think the lists in general > need a > > review by the committee. Possibly as part of wider pruning and > > refocussing efforts. > > > > I signed up to do spam curation on a couple of lists over a > decade ago > > and they haven't had a legitimate post for years and only serve > as spam > > traps. Open source is obviously still going strong but > communities have > > shifted as have the ways people choose to communicate and organise > > (sometimes for the worse). > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-aus mailing list > > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au > > > -- > Kathy Reid > President > Linux Australia > > 0418 130 636 > > president at linux.org.au > http://linux.org.au > > Linux Australia Inc > GPO Box 4788 > Sydney NSW 2001 > Australia > > ABN 56 987 117 479 > > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au -- Cameron Shorter Technology Demystifier Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant M +61 (0) 419 142 254 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From troy at box293.com Mon Jun 25 13:44:03 2018 From: troy at box293.com (Troy Lea) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 13:44:03 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Oseg -- Open Source Experts Group In-Reply-To: <989c6254-4248-43ed-2611-1311758522a8@gmail.com> References: <0b6a9e5e-d112-d17f-15e2-0b927ba08b7b@shirro.com> <989c6254-4248-43ed-2611-1311758522a8@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you, this is a great resource. Troy Lea IT Consultant and Nagios Developer troy at box293.com sites.box293.com/nagios On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:33 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > Troy, If you haven't already found it, I suggest having a look at: > > https://producingoss.com/ > > This does a pretty good job of summarising best practices. > > I haven't been hovering on this long enough to suggest whether this is a > good place to ask questions. (I'm hopeful that it is). > > If you ask here, or email me directly, I'm happy to take a crack at > answering. (I've been on a few project steering committees and on an open > source foundation board before.) > > On 25/6/18 1:24 pm, Troy Lea via linux-aus wrote: > > Appreciate the responses, I suspect it's defunct as well and some future > pruning is required. > > I have some questions regarding open source projects and what happens when > there is a fork and a community split that occurs, more-so questions about > best practices in the aftermath. I don't think the linux-aus group is the > right place to ask the questions hence why I though the OSEG mailing list > might have been a good start. > > Does anyone have any other recommendations as to where I can discuss these > topics? > > > Troy Lea > IT Consultant and Nagios Developer > troy at box293.com > sites.box293.com/nagios > > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Linux Australia President via linux-aus > wrote: > >> Thanks Paul, and apologies for the lack of response Troy. >> >> Yes, the Council currently has an active task for identifying active >> subcommittees and groups, and when we move to the new website we'll try >> and prune Mailman back as well. >> >> As always, many hands make light work so if you'd like to be involved in >> this activity, let us know :-) >> >> Best, Kathy >> >> >> On 25/06/18 11:11, Paul Shirren via linux-aus wrote: >> > On 25/06/18 10:07, Troy Lea via linux-aus wrote: >> > >> >> I never received a response, who do I contact in regards to this? >> >> >> > Anyone able to respond probably reads this list. Is OSEG still around? >> > Looking at wayback, the web page and opensource.org.au went away years >> > ago. It doesn't look like they have a web presence. They are possibly >> > defunct. Perhaps we should have a poll of what lugs and orgs are still >> > active. How is OSIA going? Their web page news seems to be updated >> > regularly. >> > >> > I can't speak for the OSEG list but I think the lists in general need a >> > review by the committee. Possibly as part of wider pruning and >> > refocussing efforts. >> > >> > I signed up to do spam curation on a couple of lists over a decade ago >> > and they haven't had a legitimate post for years and only serve as spam >> > traps. Open source is obviously still going strong but communities have >> > shifted as have the ways people choose to communicate and organise >> > (sometimes for the worse). >> > _______________________________________________ >> > linux-aus mailing list >> > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au >> > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to >> > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au >> >> -- >> Kathy Reid >> President >> Linux Australia >> >> 0418 130 636 >> >> president at linux.org.au >> http://linux.org.au >> >> Linux Australia Inc >> GPO Box 4788 >> Sydney NSW 2001 >> Australia >> >> ABN 56 987 117 479 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-aus mailing list >> linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au >> http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to >> linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing listlinux-aus at lists.linux.org.auhttp://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email tolinux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au > > > -- > Cameron Shorter > Technology Demystifier > Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant > > M +61 (0) 419 142 254 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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