From clinton.roy at gmail.com Sat May 2 17:04:12 2015 From: clinton.roy at gmail.com (Clinton Roy) Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 17:04:12 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Under a week to get your PyCon Australia 2015 proposal in! Message-ID: Under a week to go - closes Friday 8th May With just under a week to go until the PyCon Australia 2015 Call for Proposals closes, we thought it would be a good idea to give everyone an update and a reminder. We?re very happy with the proposals we?ve already received, but we?re eager to receive more! We hope our proposal writing working bees in Brisbane have been of help, and hope to roll them out to more cities next year. If you?ve got any questions please get in touch (numerous contact details are up on pycon-au.org). We would like to give a special shout out for the Education MiniConf, which is new this year: if you know people teaching and using computing in the education realm, please forward this CFP on. The deadline for proposal submission is *Friday 8th May, 2015*. Conference The conference this year will be held on Saturday 1st and Sunday 2nd August 2015 in Brisbane. PyCon Australia attracts professional developers from all walks of life, including industry, government, and science, as well as enthusiast and student developers. We?re looking for proposals for presentations and tutorials on any aspect of Python programming, at all skill levels from novice to advanced. Presentation subjects may range from reports on open source, academic or commercial projects; or even tutorials and case studies. If a presentation is interesting and useful to the Python community, it will be considered for inclusion in the program. We're especially interested in short presentations that will teach conference-goers something new and useful. Can you show attendees how to use a module? Explore a Python language feature? Package an application? Miniconfs Four Miniconfs will be held on Friday 31st July, as a prelude to the main conference. Miniconfs are run by community members and are separate to the main conference. If you are a first time speaker, or your talk is targeted to a particular field, the Miniconfs might be a better fit than the main part of the conference. If your proposal is not selected for the main part of the conference, it may be selected for one of our Miniconfs: *DjangoCon AU* is the annual conference of Django users in the Southern Hemisphere. It covers all aspects of web software development, from design to deployment - and, of course, the use of the Django framework itself. It provides an excellent opportunity to discuss the state of the art of web software development with other developers and designers. The *Python in Education Miniconf* aims to bring together community workshop organisers, professional Python instructors and professional educators across primary, secondary and tertiary levels to share their experiences and requirements, and identify areas of potential collaboration with each other and also with the broader Python community. The *Science and Data Miniconf* is a forum for people using Python to tackle problems in science and data analysis. It aims to cover commercial and research interests in applications of science, engineering, mathematics, finance, and data analysis using Python, including AI and 'big data' topics. The *OpenStack Miniconf* is dedicated to talks related to the OpenStack project and we welcome proposals of all kinds: technical, community, infrastructure or code talks/discussions; academic or commercial applications; or even tutorials and case studies. If a presentation is interesting and useful to the OpenStack community, it will be considered for inclusion. We also welcome talks that have been given previously in different events. First Time Speakers We welcome first-time speakers; we are a community conference and we are eager to hear about your experience. If you have friends or colleagues who have something valuable to contribute, twist their arms to tell us about it! Please also forward this Call for Proposals to anyone that you feel may be interested. The most recent call for proposals information can always be found at: pycon-au.org/cfp See you in Brisbane in July! Important Dates Call for Proposals opens: Friday 27th March, 2015 Proposal submission deadline: Friday 8th May, 2015 Proposal acceptance: Monday 25 May, 2015 -- Clinton Roy Software Developer Netboxblue.com Total Internet Management Control Internet usage within and outside your organisation. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russell at coker.com.au Thu May 7 16:36:01 2015 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 16:36:01 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Linux server supplier Message-ID: <201505071636.02031.russell@coker.com.au> One of my clients needs a new ZFS fileserver with more than 10 disks. Does anyone know of a good supplier for a system that has ECC RAM and a case that supports 10*3.5" SATA disks (or more)? It will also need 16G of RAM and a bunch of GigE ports as well as a spare PCIe slot for a future 10GigE board. Please note that I'm not interested in assembling PCs, so recommendations of cases etc aren't of interest. I want someone to sell my client a PC that's ready to go. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From mattcen at gmail.com Thu May 7 18:16:56 2015 From: mattcen at gmail.com (Matthew Cengia) Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 18:16:56 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Linux server supplier In-Reply-To: <201505071636.02031.russell@coker.com.au> References: <201505071636.02031.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Russell, not sure how big they make their cases, or how many disks they'll fit but at work we buy SuperMicro gear from Digicor in Clayton. Worth a look, perhaps. On 7 May 2015 4:36:01 pm AEST, Russell Coker wrote: >One of my clients needs a new ZFS fileserver with more than 10 disks. >Does >anyone know of a good supplier for a system that has ECC RAM and a case >that >supports 10*3.5" SATA disks (or more)? 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URL: From harrywwc at yahoo.com.au Mon May 11 09:56:45 2015 From: harrywwc at yahoo.com.au (harry wwc) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 09:56:45 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Linux server supplier In-Reply-To: References: <201505071636.02031.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: I have an earlier version of one of these - http://www.asus.com/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/TS300E8PS4/specifications/ - by default it comes with a cage for 4 drives, plus 3x 5.25" bays. But there is also room for another 4-bay cage - which give you your 10 disks. CentOS 6.x flys in 32GB :) hth, .h (with sincere apols to mods ;') On 11 May 2015 at 09:19, harry wwc wrote: > I have an earlier version of one of these - > http://www.asus.com/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/TS300E8PS4/specifications/ > - by default it comes with a cage for 4 drives, plus 3x 5.25" bays. But > there is also room for another 4-bay cage - which give you your 10 disks. > CentOS 6.x flys in 32GB :) > hth, > .h > > On 8 May 2015 at 11:08, Phillip Smith wrote: > >> On 7 May 2015 at 16:36, Russell Coker wrote: >> >>> >>> Please note that I'm not interested in assembling PCs, so >>> recommendations of >>> cases etc aren't of interest. I want someone to sell my client a PC >>> that's >>> ready to go. >>> >>> >> ?Have you considered iX Systems? They're ? >> not A?U based, but I've heard good things. I've gotten quotes from them >> before (management never signed off) and they were good to deal with. For >> example, I raised concerns over lead times for replacement parts (with them >> being in the US) and they said they would provide a spare parts kit to >> mitigate that. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-aus mailing list >> linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au >> http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus >> >> > > > -- > harrywwc [at] gmail [dot] com > > My grace is sufficient for you - 2Corinthians12v9a > imago Dei in quolibet homin? inveniartur > Seek Justice, Love Mercy, Walk Humbly with Your God - Micah6v8 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djitnah at greenwareit.com.au Mon May 11 12:14:10 2015 From: djitnah at greenwareit.com.au (Daniel Jitnah) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 12:14:10 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Linux server supplier In-Reply-To: References: <201505071636.02031.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <55501072.3060408@greenwareit.com.au> Hi Harry, Whats the fan noise level on these? D. On 11/05/15 09:56, harry wwc wrote: > I have an earlier version of one of these - > http://www.asus.com/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/TS300E8PS4/specifications/ > - by default it comes with a cage for 4 drives, plus 3x 5.25" bays. But > there is also room for another 4-bay cage - which give you your 10 > disks. CentOS 6.x flys in 32GB :) > hth, > .h > (with sincere apols to mods ;') > > On 11 May 2015 at 09:19, harry wwc > wrote: > > I have an earlier version of one of these - > http://www.asus.com/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/TS300E8PS4/specifications/ > - by default it comes with a cage for 4 drives, plus 3x 5.25" bays. > But there is also room for another 4-bay cage - which give you your > 10 disks. CentOS 6.x flys in 32GB :) > hth, > .h > > On 8 May 2015 at 11:08, Phillip Smith > wrote: > > On 7 May 2015 at 16:36, Russell Coker >wrote: > > > Please note that I'm not interested in assembling PCs, so > recommendations of > cases etc aren't of interest. I want someone to sell my > client a PC that's > ready to go. > > > ?Have you considered iX Systems? They're ? > not A?U based, but I've heard good things. I've gotten quotes > from them before (management never signed off) and they were > good to deal with. For example, I raised concerns over lead > times for replacement parts (with them being in the US) and they > said they would provide a spare parts kit to mitigate that. > > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > > > > -- > harrywwc [at] gmail [dot] com > > My grace is sufficient for you - 2Corinthians12v9a > imago Dei in quolibet homin? inveniartur > Seek Justice, Love Mercy, Walk Humbly with Your God - Micah6v8 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > From harrywwc at yahoo.com.au Mon May 11 15:02:28 2015 From: harrywwc at yahoo.com.au (harry wwc) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:02:28 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] Linux server supplier In-Reply-To: <55501072.3060408@greenwareit.com.au> References: <201505071636.02031.russell@coker.com.au> <55501072.3060408@greenwareit.com.au> Message-ID: Fan noise is "reasonable" - it sits on my desk as my workstation. Rendering videos is a "leave the room" experience, though ;) but that may be more the video card than the CPU. On 11 May 2015 13:38, "Daniel Jitnah" wrote: > Hi Harry, > > Whats the fan noise level on these? > > D. > > On 11/05/15 09:56, harry wwc wrote: > > I have an earlier version of one of these - > > > http://www.asus.com/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/TS300E8PS4/specifications/ > > - by default it comes with a cage for 4 drives, plus 3x 5.25" bays. But > > there is also room for another 4-bay cage - which give you your 10 > > disks. CentOS 6.x flys in 32GB :) > > hth, > > .h > > (with sincere apols to mods ;') > > > > On 11 May 2015 at 09:19, harry wwc > > wrote: > > > > I have an earlier version of one of these - > > > http://www.asus.com/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/TS300E8PS4/specifications/ > > - by default it comes with a cage for 4 drives, plus 3x 5.25" bays. > > But there is also room for another 4-bay cage - which give you your > > 10 disks. CentOS 6.x flys in 32GB :) > > hth, > > .h > > > > On 8 May 2015 at 11:08, Phillip Smith > > wrote: > > > > On 7 May 2015 at 16:36, Russell Coker > >wrote: > > > > > > Please note that I'm not interested in assembling PCs, so > > recommendations of > > cases etc aren't of interest. I want someone to sell my > > client a PC that's > > ready to go. > > > > > > ?Have you considered iX Systems? They're ? > > not A?U based, but I've heard good things. I've gotten quotes > > from them before (management never signed off) and they were > > good to deal with. For example, I raised concerns over lead > > times for replacement parts (with them being in the US) and they > > said they would provide a spare parts kit to mitigate that. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-aus mailing list > > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> > > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > > > > > > > > > -- > > harrywwc [at] gmail [dot] com > > > > My grace is sufficient for you - 2Corinthians12v9a > > imago Dei in quolibet homin? inveniartur > > Seek Justice, Love Mercy, Walk Humbly with Your God - Micah6v8 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > linux-aus mailing list > > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are pleased to announce Call For Presentations for Breakpoint 2015. Breakpoint showcases the work of expert security researchers from around the world on a wide range of topics. This conference is organised by the Ruxcon team and offers a specialised security conference to complement and lead into the larger and more casual Ruxcon weekend conference. Breakpoint caters towards security researchers and industry professionals alike, with a focus on cutting edge security research. Breakpoint presents a great opportunity for our selected speakers to receive a complimentary trip to Australia and experience both the Breakpoint and Ruxcon conferences, not to mention the great weather, parties, and friendly people. .[x]. Important Dates .[x]. May 15 - Call For Presentations Open August 30 - Call For Presentations Close October 19-21 - Breakpoint Training October 22-23 - Breakpoint Conference October 24-25 - Ruxcon Conference .[x]. Topic Scope .[x]. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: o Mobile Device Security o Exploitation Techniques o Reverse Engineering o Vulnerability Discovery o Rootkit Development o Malware Analysis o Code Analysis o Virtualisation, Hypervisor Security o Cloud Security o Embedded Device Security o Hardware Security o Telecommunications Security o Wireless Network Security o Web Application Security o Law Enforcement Activities o Forensics o Threat Intelligence o Incident Response .[x]. Submission Guidelines .[x]. In order for us to process your submission we will require the following information: 1. Presentation title 2. Detailed summary of your presentation material 3. Name/Nickname 4. Mobile phone number 5. Brief personal biography 6. Description of any demonstrations involved in presentation 7. Information on where the presentation material has or will be presented before Breakpoint * Preference will be given to presentations that contain original research that will be first presented at Breakpoint. * As a general guideline, Breakpoint presentations are between 45 and 60 minutes, including question time. If you have any questions about submissions, or would like to make a submission, please send an email to bpx at ruxconbreakpoint.com .[x]. Speaker Benefits .[x]. Speakers at Breakpoint will be entitled to the following benefits: - A return economy airfare to Melbourne (total cost limit applies) - Three nights accommodation at the Intercontinental Rialto - Complimentary registration for Breakpoint and Ruxcon conferences - Invitation to all Breakpoint and Ruxcon parties - Unlock 'Presented on world's smallest continent' achievement * All speaker benefits apply to a single speaker per submission. .[x]. Contact .[x]. If you have any questions or inqueries, contact us at: * Email: bpx at ruxconbreakpoint.com * Twitter: ruxconbpx From tim at wirejunkie.com Fri May 22 14:17:23 2015 From: tim at wirejunkie.com (Tim Serong) Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 14:17:23 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] OSDC 2015 (Hobart, TAS) Call for Papers now Open! Message-ID: <20150522041722.GK15648@seshat.divinus.wirejunkie.com> Greetings, I am pleased to announce that the Open Source Developers' Conference 2015 call for proposals is now open! This year OSDC is coming to Hobart for the first time, and will be held from October 27-29, at the Wrest Point Convention Centre. The deadline for proposal submission is July 5, 2015. All you need to provide at this stage is a brief description and abstract, so there's still plenty of time before OSDC to prep your talk. Speakers attend the conference for free; travel and accommodation is still your own gig, although we may be able to make arrangements in some special cases. We welcome first-time speakers; this is a fun conference with a great community. We'd love to hear what you have to say about open source, whether it's software, hardware, data, education or government. Please sign up at https://2015.osdc.com.au/, create a speaker profile and propose a presentation. You can submit as many proposals as you wish, and come back to edit them later, so why not get started today? == Focus == The focus for OSDC 2015 is Opening Up For A Better World. Open source software, hardware and standards facilitate higher quality technology, better security and faster innovation; open data allows us to better discover and understand the world we live in; open government aims to ensure that citizens can participate in their democracy; open access publishing exists to spread knowledge and allow that knowledge to be built upon. Open by design is the best default. == Topics == While we're looking for presentations related to creation or use of open source, naturally, there are many aspects that you could address: * Cultivating an open source community * Showcasing a successful, or unsuccessful open source implementation * Open source in the physical world * Open source in education * Open source in the business world * Closed source in an open source world * Open Standards and Open Data * Open Government These, and many more topics that are relevant to today's open source developers are desirable to help provide a diverse range of subjects at this years conference. Register now at https://2015.osdc.com.au/ - we'd love to hear from you! Please also feel free to forward this CFP to anyone else you feel may be interested. Cheers, Tim (on behalf of the OSDC 2015 team) From russell at coker.com.au Sat May 23 23:39:03 2015 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 23:39:03 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] TED conference connect app Message-ID: <201505232339.03367.russell@coker.com.au> http://blog.ted.com/the-story-of-tedconnect-a-conference-app-for-real-life- interaction/ It would be nice if we had something like this for LCA. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From ilox11 at gmail.com Sun May 24 07:12:31 2015 From: ilox11 at gmail.com (Ian) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 06:42:31 +0930 Subject: [Linux-aus] TED conference connect app In-Reply-To: <201505232339.03367.russell@coker.com.au> References: <201505232339.03367.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: I really like the abilities of that app but why build in OCR when a simple QR is all that is needed? Other events have successfully used QR on their ID cards, I can't see any reason for going to that level. Even without going for a full app adding a small QR to the LCA guest ID with a link back to their personal page within LCA isn't such a difficult thing to do. Guests could easily opt out during the registration process and the level of personal and interest info on their pages will be entirely up to them. On 24/05/2015 1:43 am, "Russell Coker" wrote: > http://blog.ted.com/the-story-of-tedconnect-a-conference-app-for-real-life- > interaction/ > > It would be nice if we had something like this for LCA. > > -- > My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ > My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russell at coker.com.au Sun May 24 07:52:38 2015 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 07:52:38 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] TED conference connect app In-Reply-To: References: <201505232339.03367.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <201505240752.38912.russell@coker.com.au> On Sun, 24 May 2015 07:12:31 AM Ian wrote: > I really like the abilities of that app but why build in OCR when a simple > QR is all that is needed? Other events have successfully used QR on their > ID cards, I can't see any reason for going to that level. QR is patented, while royalties haven't been demanded yet there is precedent in the patent that hit compress(1) and gif. This is why Android doesn't have a QR reader built in but instead strongly recommends an app by an organisation that's not worth suing. Of course that still leaves the question of why not use bar-codes instead of OCR. > Even without going for a full app adding a small QR to the LCA guest ID > with a link back to their personal page within LCA isn't such a difficult > thing to do. Guests could easily opt out during the registration process > and the level of personal and interest info on their pages will be entirely > up to them. Sounds like a good idea. I don't think that LCA is worth suing. But the real issues are about the online interaction, ways of finding people, suggestions for possible like-minded people, etc. Much of it is about a conference-specific social network. Hopefully TED will release the source. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From ilox11 at gmail.com Sun May 24 14:44:37 2015 From: ilox11 at gmail.com (Ian) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 14:14:37 +0930 Subject: [Linux-aus] TED conference connect app In-Reply-To: <201505240752.38912.russell@coker.com.au> References: <201505232339.03367.russell@coker.com.au> <201505240752.38912.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: Agree, bar coding isn't a deal breaker, and it isn't that hard to find an Android app that will read a bar code. Would sure assist in putting together and attending a BOF as one example. Having the TED app would help put a lot of other things together too. I like the idea of having a passive beacon to indicate attendance numbers in a room for ex. Not too hard to get something like that printed with sponsor name/logo and attach to lanyard. I just think that if LCA wants to keep up with the claims about a top technical conference then it is time it got out of the '80s way of doing conferences and actually demonstrate some of that techiness that it claims ;) What it comes down to Russell, any conference can do Blue Hawaiian shirts but a real Geek Conference should be known for being able to do geeky things like RFID/Bluetooth/QR codes etc LOL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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LCA's already a pretty big operation, and things don't happen without passionate people stepping up to make them happen. --Chris [0] though of course, I only speak for 2017. -- --Christopher Neugebauer Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- WWW: http://chrisjrn.com -- Twitter: @chrisjrn From dtbell91 at gmail.com Sun May 24 18:52:36 2015 From: dtbell91 at gmail.com (David Bell) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 18:52:36 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] TED conference connect app In-Reply-To: References: <201505232339.03367.russell@coker.com.au> <201505240752.38912.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: Speaking for 2016, I second Chris' sentiments. LCA is run entirely by volunteers with limited resources (both monetary and time based). If someone in the wider community wants to make things happen come and talk to us. Cheers, David On 24/05/2015 6:13 pm, "Christopher Neugebauer" wrote: > On 24 May 2015 at 14:44, Ian wrote: > > > > I just think that if LCA wants to keep up with the claims about a top > > technical conference then it is time it got out of the '80s way of doing > > conferences and actually demonstrate some of that techiness that it > claims > > ;) > > > > What it comes down to Russell, any conference can do Blue Hawaiian shirts > > but a real Geek Conference should be known for being able to do geeky > things > > like RFID/Bluetooth/QR codes etc LOL > > > > Of course, LCA is all about motivated volunteers. If someone's > interested in *making this stuff happen*, there's two years [0] worth > of LCA chairs who are ready to listen to you and possibly get stuff to > happen. LCA's already a pretty big operation, and things don't happen > without passionate people stepping up to make them happen. > > --Chris > > [0] though of course, I only speak for 2017. > > > -- > --Christopher Neugebauer > > Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- > WWW: http://chrisjrn.com -- Twitter: @chrisjrn > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mattcen at gmail.com Sun May 24 20:37:45 2015 From: mattcen at gmail.com (Matthew Cengia) Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 20:37:45 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] TED conference connect app In-Reply-To: References: <201505232339.03367.russell@coker.com.au> <201505240752.38912.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <136FF798-E330-45FB-BB3F-641E6036235B@gmail.com> I've not read the article in great detail, but many of us have lcabythebay NFC cards, which are trivially reprogrammed with an URL, GPG key ID, etc. All it would take is for somebody to write a wiki page that recommends software to reprogram with, and proposes a standard format. Perhaps everyone could program a link to their LCA user page. Keep it simple, put the onus on the individual, put the NFC tag in your conference badge pouch. On 24 May 2015 6:52:36 pm AEST, David Bell wrote: >Speaking for 2016, I second Chris' sentiments. >LCA is run entirely by volunteers with limited resources (both monetary >and >time based). If someone in the wider community wants to make things >happen >come and talk to us. > >Cheers, >David >On 24/05/2015 6:13 pm, "Christopher Neugebauer" >wrote: > >> On 24 May 2015 at 14:44, Ian wrote: >> > >> > I just think that if LCA wants to keep up with the claims about a >top >> > technical conference then it is time it got out of the '80s way of >doing >> > conferences and actually demonstrate some of that techiness that it >> claims >> > ;) >> > >> > What it comes down to Russell, any conference can do Blue Hawaiian >shirts >> > but a real Geek Conference should be known for being able to do >geeky >> things >> > like RFID/Bluetooth/QR codes etc LOL >> > >> >> Of course, LCA is all about motivated volunteers. If someone's >> interested in *making this stuff happen*, there's two years [0] worth >> of LCA chairs who are ready to listen to you and possibly get stuff >to >> happen. LCA's already a pretty big operation, and things don't happen >> without passionate people stepping up to make them happen. >> >> --Chris >> >> [0] though of course, I only speak for 2017. >> >> >> -- >> --Christopher Neugebauer >> >> Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- >> WWW: http://chrisjrn.com -- Twitter: @chrisjrn >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-aus mailing list >> linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au >> http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >linux-aus mailing list >linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au >http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at nerdvana.org.au Tue May 26 04:48:10 2015 From: steve at nerdvana.org.au (Steve Walsh) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 04:48:10 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] TED conference connect app In-Reply-To: References: <201505232339.03367.russell@coker.com.au> <201505240752.38912.russell@coker.com.au> Message-ID: <55636E6A.2040207@nerdvana.org.au> Hi Ian On 05/24/2015 02:44 PM, Ian wrote: > Would sure assist in putting together and attending a BOF as one example. Great, thanks for volunteering to get this underway. I know conference tech teams have been wanting to get a smartphone app together for at least the last 4 years. Anything any of the previous conference tech people can do to help you with information on the ZK feed styles, etc, just give us a shout and we'll make sure you have all the information you need. > > Having the TED app would help put a lot of other things together too. > I like the idea of having a passive beacon to indicate attendance > numbers in a room for ex. Not too hard to get something like that > printed with sponsor name/logo and attach to lanyard. And I'm sure a lot of our delegates would not love the idea of being passively tracked. You also need to keep in mind that who ever is installing this equipment has 5 hours on a Sunday afternoon before the conference to get all this installed, tested, and any bugs ironed out. Not to mention the privacy concerns, it's pretty easy in a week like LCA to be able to easily infer with a reasonable degree of accuracy who has what ID chip. > > I just think that if LCA wants to keep up with the claims about a top > technical conference then it is time it got out of the '80s way of > doing conferences and actually demonstrate some of that techiness that > it claims ;) Looks like Chris and David have a technical volunteer sticking his hand up already. Congratulations! After all, the conference is what you as a delegate and volunteer make it. > > What it comes down to Russell, any conference can do Blue Hawaiian > shirts but a real Geek Conference should be known for being able to do > geeky things like RFID/Bluetooth/QR codes etc LOL It's a shame you latch onto something a conference team put so much effort into in such a negative way. I'm sure if you were to get together the prices for RFID/Bluetooth/QR codes etc for 800 delegates and were to provide them to Chris and David, they'd love you enough to LOL too. From ilox11 at gmail.com Tue May 26 08:24:49 2015 From: ilox11 at gmail.com (Ian) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 07:54:49 +0930 Subject: [Linux-aus] TED conference connect app In-Reply-To: <55636E6A.2040207@nerdvana.org.au> References: <201505232339.03367.russell@coker.com.au> <201505240752.38912.russell@coker.com.au> <55636E6A.2040207@nerdvana.org.au> Message-ID: Hi folks, firstly I didn't make the initial post, I agreed with Russell that a conference app such as the TEDx was a great idea. I also - with tongue in cheek - made other suggestions of geeky stuff that could be used for an LCA. I didn't offer nor am I offering now to do any more than that. I have no idea, other than printing a bar code on the ID, how to do any of the other stuff. I believe that amongst the members of LA there are people who do know how to do the other bits. My reason for suggesting them,and a light hearted dig attached, was to encourage others with the expertise to jump into the thread and discuss from a knowledgeable POV if such things can be done, are doable and would fit within the obvious constraints of putting on an LCA. None of my posts have been aimed at achieving anything other than to encourage even challenge LA to become more technical than has been the standard up until now. It's fine to quickly jump in and congratulate me on my new role, it just isn't going to happen the way you may have been thinking. Sorry if that disappointed you. -- -- Ian From ilox11 at gmail.com Tue May 26 09:14:07 2015 From: ilox11 at gmail.com (Ian) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 08:44:07 +0930 Subject: [Linux-aus] TED conference connect app In-Reply-To: References: <201505232339.03367.russell@coker.com.au> <201505240752.38912.russell@coker.com.au> <55636E6A.2040207@nerdvana.org.au> Message-ID: And to the ACT 2013 LCA team,my reference to the shirt was based on what an awesome idea for a conference and that future LCA Teams can stand on your shoulders and do even better. Please don't be like other posters and think I was being negative about the shirts, I love the concept and love this shirt. I often wear it in summer because it is such a cool looking shirt for a geek like me. You really set the benchmark for making a conference stand out! (Sorry Steve for first sending this direct to you, the GMail App is bad and the mobile view of GMail is horrendous. 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I would like to discuss - preferable off to one side so I'm not filling the list up with non-Linux posts - how to help presenters for any LCA to produce a better presentation and avoid the common presentation pitfalls. I have previously been in discussion with Kathy and offered to help and support her Team and my offer to help is open to anybody thinking of making a presentation for the 2016 LCA or any future event. I don't think I can attend the next few LCA's (finances do not permit) but between now and then I am happy to work through emails or Skype or whatever 1:1 with any presenter who would like help and advice on making a better presentation and avoiding "Death-By-Powerpoint". -- -- Ian [1] From Wiktionary: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/death_by_PowerPoint "Noun: death by PowerPoint (usually uncountable, plural deaths by PowerPoint) the boredom of a dull PowerPoint presentation, normally consisting of simple bulleted lists and conventional graphics " -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ilox11 at gmail.com Tue May 26 13:33:49 2015 From: ilox11 at gmail.com (Ian) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 13:03:49 +0930 Subject: [Linux-aus] [sort of OT] Making a better LCA Presentation - Avoiding "Death-By-Powerpoint" [1] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good suggestions Phillip. I did years of community projects and committees but when I did about 8 months with Rostrum as part of a project I found out so much more about speaking and meeting management. Certainly recommend the experience that either organisation can give to those willing to learn and share. Perhaps Kathy and the 2016 Team could put you and myself and others that put their hands up on a sub-committee as part of Speaker Support? On 26/05/2015 11:58 am, "Phillip Smith" wrote: > On 26 May 2015 at 09:39, Ian wrote: > >> >> I would like to discuss - preferable off to one side so I'm not filling >> the list up with non-Linux posts - how to help presenters for any LCA to >> produce a better presentation and avoid the common presentation pitfalls. >> > > ?I too would be willing to review speakers ?presentations in this manner. > I certainly don't claim to be perfect, but I have been a Toastmaster for > several years so have some experience. On that note, if there are people > who would like to present but aren't confident doing so, look up your local > Toastmaster club and give it a go :) > > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mithro at mithis.com Tue May 26 18:43:11 2015 From: mithro at mithis.com (Tim Ansell) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 18:43:11 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] [sort of OT] Making a better LCA Presentation - Avoiding "Death-By-Powerpoint" [1] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a person actively involved with the recording and live steaming of the content a many conferences I'm very interested in methods of making presentations better. One thing I've found is that even experienced people often make minor mistakes which adversely affect the quality of the output. These are things such as; using low contrast text meaning the slide is unreadable from the back of the room, or putting text too close to the edges of slides meaning it gets cut off. To try and fix these problems (in a more scalable way then yelling at every presenter) I created the slidelint project. The tool automatically checks for these common problems in PDF presentations. It is like a code linting tool for presentations. There is both an online version at http://slidelint.net/ and an offline version at https://github.com/timvideos/slidelint Obviously it doesn't fix problems with content but might be a useful first start. The project could use some love because I don't have any time to work on it. I'm happy to help anyone who is interested in helping out. Tim 'mithro' Ansell On 26 May 2015 2:28 pm, "Ian" wrote: > Good suggestions Phillip. I did years of community projects and committees > but when I did about 8 months with Rostrum as part of a project I found out > so much more about speaking and meeting management. Certainly recommend the > experience that either organisation can give to those willing to learn and > share. > > Perhaps Kathy and the 2016 Team could put you and myself and others that > put their hands up on a sub-committee as part of Speaker Support? > On 26/05/2015 11:58 am, "Phillip Smith" wrote: > >> On 26 May 2015 at 09:39, Ian wrote: >> >>> >>> I would like to discuss - preferable off to one side so I'm not filling >>> the list up with non-Linux posts - how to help presenters for any LCA to >>> produce a better presentation and avoid the common presentation pitfalls. >>> >> >> ?I too would be willing to review speakers ?presentations in this manner. >> I certainly don't claim to be perfect, but I have been a Toastmaster for >> several years so have some experience. On that note, if there are people >> who would like to present but aren't confident doing so, look up your local >> Toastmaster club and give it a go :) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> linux-aus mailing list >> linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au >> http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus >> >> > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kathy at kathyreid.id.au Wed May 27 07:07:51 2015 From: kathy at kathyreid.id.au (Kathy Reid) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 07:07:51 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] [sort of OT] Making a better LCA Presentation - Avoiding "Death-By-Powerpoint" [1] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5564E0A7.9000809@kathyreid.id.au> Thanks everyone for your input to this issue, and for your passion in wanting to make linux.conf.au even better than the five days of awesome it already is every year. One thing we need to keep in mind is that many of our Speakers are incredibly accomplished in their field / discipline. Some are also experienced at public speaking, and are very savvy in terms of what makes a good presentation. There's a fine line between attempting to help and being patronising - and I know that everyone who's commented here has the best of intent. Therefore, the way I'm going to tackle this - as the Speaker Liaison for LCA2016 - is to produce a Speaker Info Pack for accepted Speakers. This pack will contain helpful hints on what makes a good presentation. We're also planning to provide a presentation template in something like OpenOffice or Impress.js that can be used - and Tim, your slidelint will be a useful tool for this template. This Pack will be based on the one that was provided at LCA2012 Ballarat [0]. One thing I'd like to include is a one-page, tear-out of 'Presentation checklist' or similar - specifically to address some AV concerns that make video and streaming harder. Where I'd like the community to do is therefore provide feedback on a draft of the Speaker Info Pack, which is about 6 weeks' away. A separate Subcommittee is not needed for this task. If you'd be willing to assist with this task, please reply to me offline and we'll come back to you with the draft. Also, get ready to put your #CfP hats on. I have it on good authority from our awesome Conference Director, Mr David Bell (@dtbell91) that #CfP will be opening soon [1]. As always, we appreciate your feedback, comments - and input. With kind regards, @kathyreid [0] which I'd link here, but due to the server compromise, the lca2012.linux.org.au host is offline. Props to the Admin Team for their huge amount of effort in resolving this and putting together a plan to get us operational again. It's been no small task. Have some spare time? Great. We'd love more volunteer help with LA. Give council at linux.org.au a line :-) [1] yes, we're opening #CfP 8 months out from linux.conf.au. Aside from this indicating that we're a crack team of ninja conf organisers, it also means that we're better able to attract high calibre international Speakers, who have busy schedules and need to have confirmed acceptance as early as possible to get reasonable flights. Big thanks to our amazing Papers Committee, and special shout out to Michael Davies and Mikal Still for their guidance and wisdom. On 26/05/15 18:43, Tim Ansell wrote: > > As a person actively involved with the recording and live steaming of > the content a many conferences I'm very interested in methods of > making presentations better. > > One thing I've found is that even experienced people often make minor > mistakes which adversely affect the quality of the output. These are > things such as; using low contrast text meaning the slide is > unreadable from the back of the room, or putting text too close to the > edges of slides meaning it gets cut off. > > To try and fix these problems (in a more scalable way then yelling at > every presenter) I created the slidelint project. The tool > automatically checks for these common problems in PDF presentations. > It is like a code linting tool for presentations. There is both an > online version at http://slidelint.net/ and an offline version at > https://github.com/timvideos/slidelint > > Obviously it doesn't fix problems with content but might be a useful > first start. > > The project could use some love because I don't have any time to work > on it. I'm happy to help anyone who is interested in helping out. > > Tim 'mithro' Ansell > > On 26 May 2015 2:28 pm, "Ian" > wrote: > > Good suggestions Phillip. I did years of community projects and > committees but when I did about 8 months with Rostrum as part of a > project I found out so much more about speaking and meeting > management. Certainly recommend the experience that either > organisation can give to those willing to learn and share. > > Perhaps Kathy and the 2016 Team could put you and myself and > others that put their hands up on a sub-committee as part of > Speaker Support? > > On 26/05/2015 11:58 am, "Phillip Smith" > wrote: > > On 26 May 2015 at 09:39, Ian >wrote: > > > I would like to discuss - preferable off to one side so > I'm not filling the list up with non-Linux posts - how to > help presenters for any LCA to produce a better > presentation and avoid the common presentation pitfalls. > > > ? I too would be willing to review speakers ?presentations in > this manner. 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URL: From nate at polynate.net Wed May 27 11:17:40 2015 From: nate at polynate.net (Nathan Bailey) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 11:17:40 +1000 Subject: [Linux-aus] [sort of OT] Making a better LCA Presentation - Avoiding "Death-By-Powerpoint" [1] In-Reply-To: <5564E0A7.9000809@kathyreid.id.au> References: <5564E0A7.9000809@kathyreid.id.au> Message-ID: Hi Kathy, A few comments: 1. I think a speaker pack and template is a great idea. 2. Apple (for WWDC) actually rewrite people's slide decks to be "more Apple", which is a combination of high quality presentation and branding. This is regardless of speaker experience and status. 3. Great speakers tend to enjoy feedback. I suspect if we offer a "Speaker feedback" service, it would equally attract experienced and inexperienced speakers 4. I would encourage you to add the "Speaker feedback" service to the speaker pack as an option, and include anyone who identifies themselves as willing to give feedback to read the speaker pack, talk with each other and provide feedback to speakers. kind regards, Nathan On 27 May 2015 at 07:07, Kathy Reid wrote: > Thanks everyone for your input to this issue, and for your passion in > wanting to make linux.conf.au even better than the five days of awesome > it already is every year. > > One thing we need to keep in mind is that many of our Speakers are > incredibly accomplished in their field / discipline. Some are also > experienced at public speaking, and are very savvy in terms of what makes a > good presentation. There's a fine line between attempting to help and being > patronising - and I know that everyone who's commented here has the best of > intent. > > Therefore, the way I'm going to tackle this - as the Speaker Liaison for > LCA2016 - is to produce a Speaker Info Pack for accepted Speakers. This > pack will contain helpful hints on what makes a good presentation. We're > also planning to provide a presentation template in something like > OpenOffice or Impress.js that can be used - and Tim, your slidelint will be > a useful tool for this template. This Pack will be based on the one that > was provided at LCA2012 Ballarat [0]. > > One thing I'd like to include is a one-page, tear-out of 'Presentation > checklist' or similar - specifically to address some AV concerns that make > video and streaming harder. > > > Where I'd like the community to do is therefore provide feedback on a > draft of the Speaker Info Pack, which is about 6 weeks' away. A separate > Subcommittee is not needed for this task. > If you'd be willing to assist with this task, please reply to me offline > and we'll come back to you with the draft. > > > Also, get ready to put your #CfP hats on. I have it on good authority from > our awesome Conference Director, Mr David Bell (@dtbell91) that #CfP will > be opening soon [1]. > > > As always, we appreciate your feedback, comments - and input. > > With kind regards, > @kathyreid > > > [0] which I'd link here, but due to the server compromise, the > lca2012.linux.org.au host is offline. Props to the Admin Team for their > huge amount of effort in resolving this and putting together a plan to get > us operational again. It's been no small task. Have some spare time? Great. > We'd love more volunteer help with LA. Give council at linux.org.au a line > :-) > > [1] yes, we're opening #CfP 8 months out from linux.conf.au. Aside from > this indicating that we're a crack team of ninja conf organisers, it also > means that we're better able to attract high calibre international > Speakers, who have busy schedules and need to have confirmed acceptance as > early as possible to get reasonable flights. Big thanks to our amazing > Papers Committee, and special shout out to Michael Davies and Mikal Still > for their guidance and wisdom. > > > > On 26/05/15 18:43, Tim Ansell wrote: > > As a person actively involved with the recording and live steaming of the > content a many conferences I'm very interested in methods of making > presentations better. > > One thing I've found is that even experienced people often make minor > mistakes which adversely affect the quality of the output. These are things > such as; using low contrast text meaning the slide is unreadable from the > back of the room, or putting text too close to the edges of slides meaning > it gets cut off. > > To try and fix these problems (in a more scalable way then yelling at > every presenter) I created the slidelint project. The tool automatically > checks for these common problems in PDF presentations. It is like a code > linting tool for presentations. There is both an online version at > http://slidelint.net/ and an offline version at > https://github.com/timvideos/slidelint > > Obviously it doesn't fix problems with content but might be a useful first > start. > > The project could use some love because I don't have any time to work on > it. I'm happy to help anyone who is interested in helping out. > > Tim 'mithro' Ansell > On 26 May 2015 2:28 pm, "Ian" wrote: > >> Good suggestions Phillip. I did years of community projects and >> committees but when I did about 8 months with Rostrum as part of a project >> I found out so much more about speaking and meeting management. Certainly >> recommend the experience that either organisation can give to those willing >> to learn and share. >> >> Perhaps Kathy and the 2016 Team could put you and myself and others that >> put their hands up on a sub-committee as part of Speaker Support? >> On 26/05/2015 11:58 am, "Phillip Smith" wrote: >> >>> On 26 May 2015 at 09:39, Ian wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I would like to discuss - preferable off to one side so I'm not >>>> filling the list up with non-Linux posts - how to help presenters for any >>>> LCA to produce a better presentation and avoid the common presentation >>>> pitfalls. >>>> >>> >>> ? I too would be willing to review speakers ?presentations in this >>> manner. I certainly don't claim to be perfect, but I have been a >>> Toastmaster for several years so have some experience. 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URL: From ilox11 at gmail.com Wed May 27 14:37:11 2015 From: ilox11 at gmail.com (Ian) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 14:07:11 +0930 Subject: [Linux-aus] [sort of OT] Making a better LCA Presentation - Avoiding "Death-By-Powerpoint" [1] In-Reply-To: References: <5564E0A7.9000809@kathyreid.id.au> Message-ID: I quite agree Nathan. Kathy, while there are many good speakers at an LCA having a good presentation isn't an automatic expectation. I well recall a major conference (nothing to do with Linux or software) years back when the Keynote speaker was an important person representing an International organisation based in Geneva. She was on a salary of 7 digits and she had a great message to present. Unfortunately her slides were quite average and certainly not what I would have expected considering the resources she would have been able to utilise in her organisation. Later during a tea break I was able to offer her several tips on better presentations and her remarks were, "Why didn't my staff tell me what you're telling me?". "Death-by-PowerPoint" is rife throughout the world of presentations - just Google the phrase and see how many responses you get - and there isn't anything to suggest that LCA might somehow be immune to that. Not all speakers will have bad slides and none of us should expect that to be the case for every Speaker. However with new research on how presentations can be improved I think the suggestions about a template and hints should be developed and updated to encourage Speakers to put their best efforts towards a good presentation. Here are some good starting points: This one takes speakers through the process of developing their presentation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUXkThfQx6A This guides speakers on ways to avoid "Death by PowerPoint": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOrHxRB3JrQ Giving a good presentation doesn't have to be difficult, with good sensible Guidelines in place it can make the task simple. You have several of us willing to help out as advisors and as a pre-audience. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at the-davies.net Wed May 27 15:27:03 2015 From: michael at the-davies.net (Michael Davies) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 14:57:03 +0930 Subject: [Linux-aus] [Papers-chair] [sort of OT] Making a better LCA Presentation - Avoiding "Death-By-Powerpoint" [1] In-Reply-To: References: <5564E0A7.9000809@kathyreid.id.au> Message-ID: Hi Ian, Thank you for your comments. Over the years LCA has provided speaker training to those who have wanted to avail themselves of it[1], and the papers committee have always offered to do pre-reviews of slides etc. In a few select cases, we've requested certain speakers give us early access to their slide decks so we can review what they will present on. But prior to that, as part of the talk selection process, we search to see if the speaker has a public track record of being able to speak well, preferably with a video that we can watch. This is in addition to having public proof that they are a subject matter expert on the topic they will be presenting on. Typically each abstract put into the CFP is reviewed by at least 8 different people - drawn from a committee of around 30 active free-software/open-source contributors who are very familiar with the linux.conf.au conference[2]. Part of their job is to verify both the knowledge and speaking ability of the potential speaker. Many of our speakers regularly present at open source conferences all over the world, several of them provide training as part of their employment, and even though improvements can always be made, I generally think we've attracted a pretty high calibre of presenter. We also pride ourselves on "giving new blood a go", that is, we like to give a certain percentage of our speaking slots to inexperienced speakers, so as to help them grow into confident regular presenters. We just think that's the right thing to do. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. We have previously made our speakers aware of Tim's slide linter[3] and will do so again, and I'll review and potentially add the links you provided as part of the LCA2016 speaker material when the CFP opens in the near future (thanks!). We also refer to Florian Haas' short presentation[4] on the practical aspects on public speaking (which he gave in person to speakers at LCA2013). In short, not every presentation from every speaker is awesome. But we provide the support and resources for them to get better. The piece of the puzzle that most needs work is a feedback mechanism for LCA attendees to let the papers committee know which talks were helpful and which ones were not, so speakers can be informed of what they can do to get better, and so the papers committee can make better choices in future years. I'm hoping that we can find the time to address this in time for LCA2016, which is only 249 days away! :) See you in Geelong in February! Michael... [1] I think this was first offered in 2004, but certainly many years have provided it since. [2] More info on this can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbg2txfYbaM [3] http://slidelint.net/ [4] Great practical tips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LZXGesneMo On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Ian wrote: > I quite agree Nathan. Kathy, while there are many good speakers at an LCA > having a good presentation isn't an automatic expectation. I well recall a > major conference (nothing to do with Linux or software) years back when the > Keynote speaker was an important person representing an International > organisation based in Geneva. She was on a salary of 7 digits and she had a > great message to present. Unfortunately her slides were quite average and > certainly not what I would have expected considering the resources she > would have been able to utilise in her organisation. Later during a tea > break I was able to offer her several tips on better presentations and her > remarks were, "Why didn't my staff tell me what you're telling me?". > > "Death-by-PowerPoint" is rife throughout the world of presentations - just > Google the phrase and see how many responses you get - and there isn't > anything to suggest that LCA might somehow be immune to that. Not all > speakers will have bad slides and none of us should expect that to be the > case for every Speaker. However with new research on how presentations can > be improved I think the suggestions about a template and hints should be > developed and updated to encourage Speakers to put their best efforts > towards a good presentation. > > Here are some good starting points: > > This one takes speakers through the process of developing their > presentation: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUXkThfQx6A > > This guides speakers on ways to avoid "Death by PowerPoint": > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOrHxRB3JrQ > > Giving a good presentation doesn't have to be difficult, with good > sensible Guidelines in place it can make the task simple. You have several > of us willing to help out as advisors and as a pre-audience. > > > _______________________________________________ > Papers-chair mailing list > Papers-chair at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/papers-chair > > -- Michael Davies michael at the-davies.net Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdt at gdt.id.au Sat May 30 11:25:36 2015 From: gdt at gdt.id.au (Glen Turner) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 10:55:36 +0930 (ACST) Subject: [Linux-aus] [Papers-chair] [sort of OT] Making a better LCA Presentation - Avoiding "Death-By-Powerpoint" [1] In-Reply-To: References: <5564E0A7.9000809@kathyreid.id.au> Message-ID: I educate an audience about a technical topic a few times a year. Getting the data from those old-fashioned feedback forms and the comments upon them within a day or two is invaluable. If feedback isn't quickly available (and it can be difficult for a large conference) then a few selected auditors is almost as good. As for slides, uggh. Most talks would be better with just a few slides showing code fragments, photos or diagrams. So many people confuse the role of slides and speaker's notes. And just because marketing people put a logo on every flat surface doesn't mean you need to do the same. -glen -- Glen Turner From ilox11 at gmail.com Sat May 30 11:38:30 2015 From: ilox11 at gmail.com (Ian) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 11:08:30 +0930 Subject: [Linux-aus] [Papers-chair] [sort of OT] Making a better LCA Presentation - Avoiding "Death-By-Powerpoint" [1] In-Reply-To: References: <5564E0A7.9000809@kathyreid.id.au> Message-ID: Thankyou Glen, something I have been saying for years. The name of the program is Power Point, not Power Presentation nor even Power-Read-The-Slide-With-Me. That last technique is so insulting to the audience yet I see it time after time, Death-by-Powerpoint! And don't forget those awesome little touches like the slide numbering and titles and irritating bits at the bottom that are simply superfluous to putting over the important bits, the Power Points behind the presentation. I really hope the templates being offered to LCA Speakers don't have things like these on them. On 30 May 2015 at 10:55, Glen Turner wrote: > > I educate an audience about a technical topic a few times a year. Getting > the data from those old-fashioned feedback forms and the comments upon > them within a day or two is invaluable. If feedback isn't quickly > available (and it can be difficult for a large conference) then a few > selected auditors is almost as good. > > As for slides, uggh. Most talks would be better with just a few slides > showing code fragments, photos or diagrams. So many people confuse the > role of slides and speaker's notes. And just because marketing people put > a logo on every flat surface doesn't mean you need to do the same. > > -glen > > -- > Glen Turner > -- -- Ian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: