[Linux-aus] Photos at conferences

matt matheist76 at westnet.com.au
Tue Jan 21 17:21:51 EST 2014

"for these people, simply by, at the start of each presentation, the 
presenter stating "I am / am not willing to be photographed in my 
providing this presentation." "

Already in place and I think it has always been there for the reason 
that some presentations are under legal requirement not to be filmed.

Matt Franklin

On 21/01/14 15:52, Bret Busby wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Bret Busby wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:36:01
>> From: Bret Busby <bret at busby.net>
>> To: Linux Aus <linux-aus at linux.org.au>
>> Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Photos at conferences
>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Russell Stuart wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> [0]  That is why I typically advocate just leaving things alone and just
>>>      saying "the rules of the conference are the laws of the land".
>>>      Every Australian has a pretty good feel for what those laws are.
>> The problem is that most people have no idea of eactly what laws apply in
>> Australia.
>> We do not have legally binding human rights. The International Covenant On
>> Civil And Political Rights, which "entered into force" in Australia some
>> decades ago, is of no effect in Australia. The feral parliament saw to that.
>> Australia, at the federal level, has no binding human rights legislation. The
>> feral parliament has made sure of that.
>> Despite what many people believe, people in Australia do not have a right to
>> own a firearm. Many people take the particular, much misinterpreted (or so I
>> believe) provision of the USA Constitution, regarding the "right to bear
>> arms", as being applicable in Australia.
>> Australia does not have a right to freedom of speech. A man was locked up,
>> some years ago, for telling people, not how to vote, but, how they could
>> vote, in order to get their vote to convey what they wanted, in a federal
>> election. Voting for and only for, the person that a voter wants elected to a
>> parliament in Australia, is not legal.
>> In relation to this particular matter, I believe that the simplest thing, is
>> to do what I would do, when wanting to take photographs at events - ask
>> permission first, and, if anyone declines, respect that. At a gathering, such
>> as a presentation, if a photograph is to be taken of the audience, or
>> otherwise of a group of people, then to state explicitly, something like
>> "I/We want to now take a photograph of the group that is present. If you do
>> not want yourself to be included in the photograph, would you please separate
>> from the group, until after the photograph(s) is/are taken." If the group is
>> the audience of a lecture/presentation, then I expect that they would be able
>> to "leave by side doors" and be out side of the room, while photographs are
>> taken, and, to be able to be called back in to the room, when the taking of
>> the photographs is completed.
>> To ask "Do you mind if I photograph you?", of a single adult person (or, the
>> parent or guardian of a minor), and simlarly for a small group of peole, or,
>> otherwise, as mentioned above, for a larger group of people, so as to not
>> photograph any person who does not consent to being photographed, is, to me,
>> a matter of courtesy and respect, apart from any legal or moral
>> considerations.
>> As Justice Bullingham would (I believe) say; "It is just a matter of common
>> sense.".
> Oh, and, regarding people who may be willing to provide presentations,
> but do not, because they want to be not photographed, could provision
> not be made for these people, simply by, at the start of each
> presentation, the presenter stating "I am / am not willing to be
> photographed in my providing this presentation.", and, unless a person
> clearly hears from the presenter, that the presenter has so given
> permission, no photographs are to be taken of the presenter giving the
> presentation? If anyone arrives at the presentation, late, and therefore
> does not hear such declaration, then that person should not photograph
> the presenter making the presentation.
> Once again, in the (I believe) words of Justice Bullingham; "It is just
> a matter of common sense.".
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
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