[Linux-aus] Special support for women

Luke Martinez me at luke.asia
Wed Oct 30 07:45:59 EST 2013

Wow. Just because a person has a differing view from you doesn't mean they
should be removed at _your behest_.

Could you imagine what would happen if this wasn't Linux-aus but
religion-aus. We'd be down to 1 member really quickly!
On Oct 30, 2013 7:37 AM, "Donna Benjamin" <donna at kattekrab.net> wrote:

> You're a troll. You should be removed from this mailing list.
> David Newall <davidn at davidnewall.com> wrote:
>> (:-P   (tongue in cheek)
>> Apparently we need special programmes to address an imbalance between
>> the sexes; in politics, employment, management and elsewhere, this is
>> widely accepted as appropriate.  Linux Australia is not immune to this;
>> we give opportunities and support to females.  This puts an elephant in
>> the corner: women gain opportunities at the expense of more capable (or
>> more needy) men. This undermines their credibility; it raises reasonable
>> doubts about their competence.  Are they there from merit or merely to
>> make up the numbers?
>> Maggie Thatcher was never PM to improve numbers; she was destined to be
>> leader of UK; she earned the role.  Affirmative action needed no part in
>> her glory.  She was the best candidate.  Yet I think she must have
>> struggled to overcome doubt.  (Arguably she was better because of the
>> doubt, but that's for another day.)
>> I say m
>>  erit is
>> blind to sex; it shines from inner strength.  I say
>> special programmes damage the interests they purport to serve.  How can
>> someone be taken seriously if there was obligation to give a women the
>> place?  We do them naught but disservice by gifting favours that are
>> intrinsically merited.  We do naught but disservice by filling seats
>> with lesser competence.
>> We see ourselves as a meritocracy; for sake of honesty and transparency,
>> our special programmes for women should candidly admit patronage of
>> incompetence over political correctness.  Let's cancel our "women in IT"
>> programmes and replace them with programmes that reward "incompetent
>> women in IT," or at least to widen eligibility to include hamsters and
>> fish.  That way, competent women, of which we have plenty, can leave no
>> doubt that they won prestige merely on shining ability.
>> Chew, swallow, digest.
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