[Linux-aus] The Ada Initiative - Should Linux Aus etc

[Melissa Draper]

On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 02:44 +0100, david at davidnewall.com wrote:
> Elspeth Thorne: 
> > Perhaps almost every IT work environment I 
> > have been in has been abnormal in its cultural rejection of women. 
> 
> How odd.  I've been in the industry for more than 30 years and never
> seen or heard of such things.  All of the women in the industry who I
> have spoken with on the topic of women in the industry -- it's a topic
> I do tend towards because of their relative scarcity -- have indicated
> that they are and always have been treated as one of the gang. 

So let me get this straight. You've asked the ~5% of interested women
who are still in the industry if they've been repelled by the industry's
atmosphere towards women.

Does this not at all strike you that you're ignoring the ~95% who have
never been or who have left. You know, the ones who would actually have
the answer?

> > Perhaps ... my experience was unique. 
> 
> There's no way to say this without causing offense, which is
> regretable as offense is not my intent, so I shall just say it. 
> 
> That sounds plausible.  It fits with what I've heared face-to-face.

And your experience, David, does not fit with what I've experienced,
heard about face-to-face and witnessed with my own two eyes.