[Linux-aus] Things not to post to planet linux australia

Andy White andy at lgsolutions.com.au
Thu Mar 26 16:54:46 EST 2009


I'm not suggesting that the conversation shouldn't be had - far from  
it! I'm in the process of writing up some flyers to distribute around  
Canberra protesting the issue, and will be holding a presentation on  
the matter at BarCamp2 on Saturday (assuming I can get my slides  
together in time, ahem).

However - we've been asked here not to post the ACMA blacklist to  
Planet Linux Australia (as I read it, anyway). We haven't been asked  
not to discuss the matter; we've also not been told not to post links  
from the blacklist that we don't know about to the feed (obviously, as  
you say, we can't check that!)

My understanding is that the drive here is not to post the known,  
leaked ACMA blacklist that is on Wikileaks to the Planet. Which seems  
reasonable. We're all still free to take a stand on our personal  
blogs, and we're definitely free to discuss the issue on PLA (and we  
most certainly should).

Andy White
e: andy at lgsolutions.com.au
m: +61 411246100

On 26/03/2009, at 4:13 PM, Russell Stuart wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 15:33 +1100, Andy White wrote:
>> It's generally considered bad form to put your ISP at risk
>> unnecessarily.
>> You say that LA should show some more spine on this issue - why?
> Because it is simply not possibly to comply with the law as it is
> written.  The list is a government secret.  You are not supposed to  
> know
> whether whether a site is blacklisted or not.  For example, did you  
> know
> the ACMA has taken to blacklist sites that have the Hansen photos?
> So it is not possible to avoid putting your ISP at risk.  Or LA at  
> risk.
> So now you are apparently arguing LA should censor discussion of a set
> of laws that put LA at risk of unknowing transgressing them.
> Just to make it absolutely obvious: I would like to post the Hansen  
> link
> that ACMA has banned.  I can't.  You can't check it out for yourself  
> and
> avoid similar images.  Perhaps it already has been blogged about by
> someone on planet when it was a hot topic.  Perhaps the banned link  
> has
> already been posted to planet.  Tell me, how are you going to find out
> if planet.linux.org.au is _already_ at risk.
> Frankly Andy, avoiding discussions like this seems downright  
> dangerous.
> Come to that, attempting to thought police any topic people are trying
> to reason about and understand important issues is downright  
> dangerous.

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