[Linux-aus] Google Linux OS coming..

Bret Busby bret at busby.net
Wed Jul 15 14:31:17 EST 2009

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Kim Hawtin wrote:

> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:12:34 +0930
> From: Kim Hawtin <kim.hawtin at adelaide.edu.au>
> To: Linux Australia List <linux-aus at linux.org.au>
> Subject: Re: [Linux-aus] Google Linux OS coming..
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, David Newall wrote:
>>> Bret Busby wrote:
>>>> I am a webmaster for an organisation (one of the web sites that I
>>>> administer).
>>>> A couple of weeks ago, google decided to blacklist the web site.
>>>> google declared the web site to be an attack web site, and blocked
>>>> access to the web site.
>>> That's not technically accurate.  Google don't have the facility to
>>> block access to your website.  They can list is on their website as
>>> harmful, but that isn't the same as blocking access, is it?
>> Yes it is.
> No it is not. If the user has a clue, they can still copy the URL and paste
> it into their browser and go to the site.

No, they couldn't, depending on the browser configuration.

That was already, explicitly, covered

> If they don't have a clue its probably better they didn't.
>> It is a Denial Of Service attack, by blocking access to the site.
> No, it is a recommendation. The user still has a choice, even if they don't understand
> the technology.

No, they don't.

Try actually reading the preceding information.

That you are not interested in the truth, is unfortunate.

> Get off you high horse mate and stop playing the victim.
> This is 2009 and there is more to managing a web site than pushing out HTML.

I see, so you support corganised crime and cyber-bullying.

Then, you are a real problem.

> This kind of "service" of detecting "harmful" content is there because many people
> are unaware of security issues or just lazy. If you are not prepared to maintain your
> site in a responsible way, including all the issues around "harmful" javascript and
> cross site scripting attacks then give the job to someone else.

Once again, try reading the information.

You clearly haven't bothered.

The blocking of the web site, made the current web site and its owner, 
victims, due to spurious allegations about a previous incarnation of the 
web site, and, the links that are still specified by google, have not 
been valid for some time, nor have the web pages to which the links 
pretend to exist.

> The internet is not a simple place any more.
> Heres a tip, don't work on email systems either because they are even more complex with
> even bigger security problems.
> regards,
> Kim

Now, go back, and, read the information, and, find out what it is really 
about, if you are at all interested in the facts of the matter.

It is all there, and, your message above, shows that you are more 
interested in making lots of noise, than the facts of the matter.

Bret Busby
West Australia

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
  you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
   written by Douglas Adams,
   published by Pan Books, 1992


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