[Linux-aus] LUG Videoing Grants Proposal

Silvia Pfeiffer silviapfeiffer1 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 9 13:07:49 UTC 2008

Hi Paul,

There are a whole lot of impossibilities in your request, and I'm not even
going to try explaining why.

However, I believe all that you are really asking for is for Ogg Theora
files to be embedded in Web pages and to be embeddable in blogs. This

If you go to
http://www.annodex.org/events/lca2008_mmm/pmwiki.php/Main/Schedule you will
find the videos of the LCA Multimedia miniconf embedded in the page (it's
running pmwiki). It is using a "video" tag that is about to be standardised
in HTML5 and a javascript library called mv_embed (
http://metavid.ucsc.edu/blog/2008/01/29/mv_embed-6/) which was just added to
the wiki to make the embed work. If you click on the buttons around the
keyframe, you will see the functionality. The bottom right enables you to
copy a embed tag into your blog.

Might this be the best and most open source conformant solution to your
problem? (Since it's just about impossible that we will see Ogg Theora any
time soon work inside flash).


On Feb 9, 2008 9:46 PM, Paul TBBle Hampson <Paul.Hampson at pobox.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 05:41:01PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> >  - We host all the published videos on mirror.linux.org.au, along with a
> >    vidcast feed
> Just caught up on the original thread, but couldn't then find a good
> place to suggest this.
> It'd be nice if a low-bitrate .flv file was also available, for
> embedding in blogs ala Youtube et al.
> It doesn't have to be Flash video, but I'd certainly suggest it be
> something that you can play with an embedded Flash player or similar, to
> try and keep the client-side requirements down... I've not played with
> much embedded video in blogs, so if just embedding the media directly in
> a blog, and letting vlc or the MS media player or whatever's hooked up
> handle it works, great.
> What'd be really nice is (and I don't know how good Ogg Theora is at
> low-bandwidth of this level off hand) a Flash-based Ogg Theora player
> that falls back in the no-Flash case to being an embedded file to let
> the user's local player stream it.
> I dunno if there is an Ogg Theora codec for Flash, but I'd be happy to
> have a poke around and do some research if this seems like a good idea.
> And of course, I suppose this requires that Gnash be doing a good enough
> job that we're not being rudely exclusive towards the many non-x86 Linux
> and other non-Adobe-supported users out there.
> It'd be nice to be able to point people at a URL where they can watch
> the video rather than requiring them to download the whole file.
> Experience at work suggests that even when I grab Youtube videos for
> people so that everyone in the office doesn't have to hit the URL
> posted, most people won't bother playing the downloaded file, but will
> just click the original link.
> Of course, the mirror admins might have some thoughts on this, maybe not
> wanting to become LinuxTube... ^_^
> Hmm. Does Google Video or YouTube already fill this niche for people?
> Are people willing to just upload LUG videos and suchlike to YouTube?
> That'd fulfil this use-case too, but without the Theora angle.
> On a side note, it'd be nice if someone was also archiving the original
> recording (although I dunno how big that is...) in case re-encoding is
> needed, in case of the aforementioned explosive destruction of the ANU.
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