[Linux-aus] Re: [ALLIES] Re: A Linux for Students project idea

Andrew Donnellan ajdlinux at gmail.com
Fri Mar 17 08:09:02 UTC 2006

I'm not after just a discussion/lobbying list like ALLIES or LIAS, not
just http://schools.linux.org.au but also

openeducation.org seems to be similar. I'm sort of after a place where
students can post questions and get answers, and where teachers can
get actual HOWTOs as well.


On 3/17/06, Jonathan Oxer <jon at ivt.com.au> wrote:
> On 3/17/06, Andrew Donnellan <ajdlinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm already on the Allies and LIAS lists, and unfortunately they seem
> > to be quite dead. Linux-aus seems to be the only moderately active
> > public list.
> Yes, but you asked for a new mailing list for Linux in schools and I
> was just pointing out that LA already runs two such lists. If those
> lists happen to be dead then adding a third list isn't going to help:
> I'd prefer to see you stoke up some enthusiasm and get people using
> the lists that are already there.
> > BTW how are the LA servers set up?
> Don't even ask! The admin team have been doing a sterling job of
> keeping things under control but the problem is that we've ended up
> with machines distributed around the countryside (one in Perth, one in
> Sydney, one in Melbourne and a fourth on the way to Melbourne) and
> Digital (LA's primary server) is in desperate need of a rebuild after
> years of customisations and adding odd services to support special
> projects. Unfortunately LA is totally dependent on that machine for
> things like the mailing lists so we can't just take it offline, nuke
> it, and start again, and it's also an incredibly painful process to
> add even more services for the sorts of things you're requesting.
> The solution we're working on is to set up the fourth machine, which
> is kindly being supplied by HP to replace Digital, as a Xen host to
> allow us to run each project in its own virtualized environment. Once
> that happens it will be much easier for us to just create a whole new
> virtual machine and give a project subcommittee access to it so they
> can run whatever services they like without affecting anything else.
> > When you say the new server is being shipped "right now", does that
> > mean it will be arriving/set up within the next, let's say, month?
> I'm surprised I haven't seen it already. HP confirmed the shipping
> address last week, so it could arrive on my doorstep at any time.
> Then of course there is the time necessary to do the actual setup of
> the machine, then migrate services from Digital. And like everything
> else in LA that's dependent on the availability of volunteers: in this
> case probably Andrew Pollock and myself to do the initial setup and
> then the entire admin team to extract services from Digital. I've been
> totally swamped recently writing Ubuntu Hacks but I should be clear of
> that in the next day or so. Next week I'll be setting up servers at
> MCI but I can probably find some time to have a look at the new
> Digital if HP get the hardware to me.
> Cheers   :-)
> Jonathan
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