Re: [Linux-aus] Re:[Linux-aus]job database

[Kimberly Shelt <kim@linmagau.org>]

Tery,

I am not sure I understand your point ?

Mine was to state the things  as I understand them..
the piece of my post you copied in..and to offer suggestions
the pieces you didn't copy in :(

Eg.. there are sites.. they do have a apparent ability to attract
companies advertising jobs, and that perhaps LA could take advantage
of the already huge dbs out there with a little coding ?

I was not in any way putting down the LA job db.. just that Pia's
original post on the subject was about making it more visable and
more useful for *nix people.. 

I made some suggestions  about how that could be improved as that
was what I thought Pia was asking for..

Now on to your mail :)

On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 10:44:28PM +1100, Terry Dawson wrote:
> Kimberley,
> Most large companies looking to recruit IT professionals use recruitment 
> agencies. Over the past year or two there have been an increasing number of 
> recruitment agencies posting job advertisements to the Linux Australia Job 
> Database. I think that speaks for itself.
#
Great  Ithink this is good as well.
> 
> As the person primarily responsible for the management of the jobs database 
> since its creation in November 1998 I can supply some hard data as to its 
> use. The LA jobs database has seen 365 posted jobs, most of those were in 
> 2000/2001. The jobs that the LA jobs database accepted were strictly Linux 
> jobs, not Unix jobs. In taht time we've had numerous positive responses from 
> people both looking for jobs and from those looking to recruit. We've 
> additionally had a number of repeat users, some companies have used the 
> service many times looking for Linux-trained staff.
> 
Again great..but can you give details of jobs in the db in 2002 or 2003 ?
More recent figures would be good to those of us looking for work :)

> Analysis of the website log files shows that the jobs database is the most 
> commonly hit page of any significance.

>From job seekers or job offerers? 
or is it just because ..

a.the jobs site would be the page that would "logically" change more 
often.. and thus folks would check it regularly :)

b. possibly linked from many other plugs too. ? I know the PLUG does:)

c. I think there are quite possibly a large number of IT/whatever flavour
job seekers out there rightnow. hopefully LA Job DB is just one of the
places people seek work.. :). so at the moment the economic climate
means the job page would be hit more often .)

If the hits are good, then perhaps this can be used as proof
for LA to approach companies to get them on the LA site ?
> 
> There was a time where I fed a periodically posted message onto various 
> Usenet newsgroups (aus.jobs, and related) advertising availability of the 
> service. That hasn't happened for a while (it was never reinstated after a 
> hard drive crash on the server). That may explain part of the decline, 
> combined of course, with other avenues popping up for Linux Job postings. 
> This is the first time I've seen it empty.

:) I think this is indicative of the times more so than the LA site itself..
thus I think Pias idea of trying to bloster the job site is a good one..
lets make it work well now, so when the times are booming it will work
even better :)

Also I am currently writing articles for the mag that will hopefully
include pieces about LA, thus increasing advertising too.
> 
> I personally have always believed that Linux Australia had an important role 
> to serve in providing a free and unencumbered mechanism for managing Linux 
> jobs in Australia. I personally don't think anything has changed really.

I have not that much history with LA or Australia for the last years,
but I agree, LA and the new committee are moving towards a bigger
and brighter future :)
> 
> I think Linux Australia should continue to operate the Jobs database, and to 
> promote it. I additionally think it makes sense to invite the various IT 
> recruitment agencies to make free use of it too. Promotion is the key.

NO debate from me.. and I agree with both the sugssitons here :)
And of course linmag will highlight all the positive achievements of LA
in the future :)

Kim
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