From parkeshs@ozemail.com.au Sat Nov 2 11:58:39 2002 Received: from itumx1.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx1.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.16]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA23wA9J030730 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:58:38 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp2.central.det.win (itfsmtp2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.32]) by itumx1.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA2403Gg454085 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:00:03 +1100 (EST) Received: from librarian (Not Verified[10.12.217.74]) by itfsmtp2.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 15:00:02 +1100 From: "Parkes High School" To: Message-ID: <001401c28224$0e34a580$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C28280.41A6A420" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: [Lias] locked out of httpd Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Nov 2 11:59:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:58:08 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C28280.41A6A420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have some more trouble! Sorry!! I'm running mandrake 9.0 on a machine and have got all the trouble with Postficx sorted out. Now I have added a web mail interface to our email - from http://www.adjeweb.com/ I have installed this OK on a mandrake 7.2 machine and am now trying it out on Mandrake 9.0 Everything goes OK until I give the thing a test by going to: 10.12.217.88/cgi-bin/WebMail/cgitest.cgi This should work but I get a message from Apache saying I don't have permission to access the file Apache error log confirms this - client rejected. These instructions from the supplier of the web mail pl file: log in as any non-root user with a cgi-bin directory (that can execute perl CGI scripts) I am logged in as a non root user and I have cgi-bin directory but maybe this user cannot execute perl CGI scripts. I have set permissions on the relevant directory correctly. Any ideas anyone? Peter Hughes (determined to persist with Linux!) ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C28280.41A6A420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have some more trouble!  = Sorry!!

I’m running mandrake 9.0 on a machine = and have got all the trouble with Postficx sorted out.

Now I have added a web mail interface to our = email – from http://www.adjeweb.com/

I have installed this OK on a mandrake 7.2 = machine and am now trying it out on Mandrake 9.0

Everything goes OK until I give the thing a = test by going to:

10.12.217.88/cgi-bin/WebMail/cgitest.cgi=

 

This should work but I get a message from = Apache saying I don’t have permission to access the file   = Apache error log confirms this – client rejected.

 These instructions from the supplier of = the web mail pl file:

log in as any non-root user = with a cgi-bin directory (that can execute perl CGI scripts)

 

I am logged in as a non root user and I have cgi-bin directory = but maybe this user cannot execute perl CGI scripts.

 

I have set permissions on the relevant directory = correctly.

 

Any ideas anyone?

 

 

Peter Hughes

(determined to persist with Linux!)

------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C28280.41A6A420-- From leon@cyberknights.com.au Sat Nov 2 21:28:03 2002 Received: from home.dy.cyberknights.com.au (baboon138.arach.net.au [203.34.17.138]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA2DRU9J002776 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:27:59 +0800 Received: from newleon (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by home.dy.cyberknights.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404F513EB8 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:43:06 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Leon Brooks Organization: CyberKnights - modern tools, traditional dedication To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] locked out of httpd User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <001401c28224$0e34a580$4ad90c0a@librarian> In-Reply-To: <001401c28224$0e34a580$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200211022143.06069.leon@cyberknights.com.au> Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Nov 2 21:29:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:43:06 +0800 On Saturday 02 November 2002 11:58 am, Parkes High School wrote: > client rejected This looks more like access control for the whole server blocking you (check /etc/hosts.allow and .deny, and any IP-address-based restrictions in Apache's config files) rather than any file permissions. Cheers; Leon -- http://www.cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools, traditional dedication http://slpwa.linux.org.au/ Member, Linux Professionals West Aus http://conf.linux.org.au/ THE Australian Linux Technical Conf: 22-25 January 2003, Perth: be there! From sbryan@olmc.nsw.edu.au Sun Nov 3 17:00:58 2002 Received: from mail020.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail020.syd.optusnet.com.au [210.49.20.135]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA390T9J012947 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:00:58 +0800 Received: from blondie (sdcax46-162.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.215.162]) by mail020.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id gA392dQ10896; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:02:39 +1100 Received: from simon ([192.168.10.10]) by blondie (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA3IwJA08432; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:58:21 GMT From: "Simon Bryan" To: "Parkes High School" , Subject: RE: [Lias] locked out of httpd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C28373.F366BF30" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001401c28224$0e34a580$4ad90c0a@librarian> Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun Nov 3 17:01:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:02:34 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C28373.F366BF30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What are the file permissions on the cgitest.cgi? -----Original Message----- From: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au [mailto:lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au]On Behalf Of Parkes High School Sent: Sat, 2. November 2002 2:58 PM To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: [Lias] locked out of httpd I have some more trouble! Sorry!! I'm running mandrake 9.0 on a machine and have got all the trouble with Postficx sorted out. Now I have added a web mail interface to our email - from http://www.adjeweb.com/ I have installed this OK on a mandrake 7.2 machine and am now trying it out on Mandrake 9.0 Everything goes OK until I give the thing a test by going to: 10.12.217.88/cgi-bin/WebMail/cgitest.cgi This should work but I get a message from Apache saying I don't have permission to access the file Apache error log confirms this - client rejected. These instructions from the supplier of the web mail pl file: log in as any non-root user with a cgi-bin directory (that can execute perl CGI scripts) I am logged in as a non root user and I have cgi-bin directory but maybe this user cannot execute perl CGI scripts. I have set permissions on the relevant directory correctly. Any ideas anyone? Peter Hughes (determined to persist with Linux!) ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C28373.F366BF30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What=20 are the file permissions on the cgitest.cgi?
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au = [mailto:lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au]On=20 Behalf Of Parkes High School
Sent: Sat, 2. November 2002 = 2:58=20 PM
To: lias@lists.linux.org.au
Subject: [Lias] = locked out=20 of httpd

I have some more = trouble! =20 Sorry!!

I’m running = mandrake 9.0 on a=20 machine and have got all the trouble with Postficx sorted=20 out.

Now I have added a web = mail=20 interface to our email – from http://www.adjeweb.com/

I have installed this OK = on a=20 mandrake 7.2 machine and am now trying it out on Mandrake=20 9.0

Everything goes OK until = I give=20 the thing a test by going to:

10.12.217.88/cgi-bin/WebMail/cgitest.cgi

 

This should work but I = get a=20 message from Apache saying I don’t have permission to access the = file   Apache error log confirms this – client=20 rejected.

 These instructions = from the=20 supplier of the web mail pl file:

log in as any non-root = user with a=20 cgi-bin directory (that can execute perl CGI = scripts)

 

I am logged in as a non root user and I have = cgi-bin=20 directory but maybe this user cannot execute perl CGI=20 scripts.

 

I have set permissions on the relevant = directory=20 correctly.

 

Any ideas anyone?

 

 

Peter Hughes

(determined to persist with=20 Linux!)

------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C28373.F366BF30-- From alan@burnsie.com.au Mon Nov 4 06:18:45 2002 Received: from mail011.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail011.syd.optusnet.com.au [210.49.20.139]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA3MIH9J019021 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:18:45 +0800 Received: from burnsie (c19527.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.28.175.110]) by mail011.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id gA3MKZN07540 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:20:35 +1100 From: "Alan Byrne" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20021102222931.6702.31031.Mailman@digital> Importance: Normal Subject: [Lias] Me, A linux noob Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Nov 4 06:19:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:23:31 +1100 Hello all, I just joined the list, and I am a Linux newbie. I just started playing around with Red Hat 7.3. I find that the file browser in Gnome is very slow. I am running a AMD 1700+ with 512MB RAM, but the file browser takes about 1-2 seconds to load the next directory when I double click a folder. Is this normal? Regards, Alan Byrne From daive_ellis@yahoo.com Mon Nov 4 15:55:16 2002 Received: from web10007.mail.yahoo.com (web10007.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.43]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with SMTP id gA47sl9J032435 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:55:16 +0800 Message-ID: <20021104075709.47165.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.202.174.16] by web10007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 18:57:09 EST From: =?iso-8859-1?q?David=20Ellis?= To: lias@lists.linux.org.au In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Lias] Need some K12 LTSP CDs Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Nov 4 15:56:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:57:09 +1100 (EST) Hi, I'm after a set of K12 LTSP CDs. My normal connection www.everythinglinux.com.au doesn't have them yet, nor does LSL. Does someone have a set they can burn for me or know of somewhere I can get them. Happy to pay reasonable amount either way. David ===== David Ellis, IT Manager St George Christian School Hurstville, NSW. Australia "Look Around You - made by and for Jesus" http://careers.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Careers - 1,000's of jobs waiting online for you! From andrew.dorrell@cisra.canon.com.au Tue Nov 5 14:25:07 2002 Received: from a.mx.canon.com.au (bergeron.cisra.com.au [203.12.172.124]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA56Oc9J012082 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:25:07 +0800 Received: from ivory.research.canon.com.au (canonex.research.canon.com.au [203.12.172.254]) by a.mx.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9097DA8C2A; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cisra.canon.com.au (ormai.research.canon.com.au [10.2.2.134]) by ivory.research.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C8B5712; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:25:48 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3DC764BD.6000700@cisra.canon.com.au> From: Andrew Dorrell Organization: CISRA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020722 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Parkes High School Cc: lias@lists.linux.org.au References: <000101c28488$841da830$4ad90c0a@librarian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Lias] Re: postfix etc Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 5 14:26:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:27:09 +1100 Parkes High School wrote: > Hi Andrew > > One thing that puzzles me is the difference between 127.0.0.1 and the IP > one gives a machine...say 10.12.217.88 well... you don't actually give the address to the machine, you give it to the interface. The address 127.0.0.1 refers what is called the "local loopback" interface. Whenever you want to connect specifically to the machine you are sitting at you can use it, and services that you do not want used by others can be configured to only accept connections from this address. This is how your postfix server was configured out of the box. Now, to talk TCP/IP on your network card you need to give that interface an address also - this is the 10.12.217.88 one. In fact you can add any number of "alias" addresses for this interface also... and I recommend doing that (see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/nag2/index.html if you have the time...). I assume Mandrake will give you a configuration tool for doing this... if you can't find one just add a few lines like the following in your /etc/rc.local: /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 /sbin/ifconfig eth0:1 ... In particular, DET asigns addresses in its DNS for proxy.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au web1.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au etc to get the exact addresses, assuming you have DNS configured, just type for example host proxy.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au If you are running this machine as a proxy and mail server then add aliases for these addresses _and_ the corresponding entries in your /etc/hosts But now to get to your specific problems: parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au should be your domain name and not your hostname which should be something like tux.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au! Make a point of fixing this or you will have problems. A good /etc/hosts entry might be: 10.12.217.88 tux.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au tux The change you made to the postfix allows _all_ computers to access and use your SMTP service. This is why it was required for client PC's on your network to access the postfix server. You should make the following change to postfix's main.cf also: mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, $mydomain which will inform the server that it is the termination point for mail addressed user@parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au For forwarding to the outside world add: relayhost = [smtp.schools.nsw.edu.au] Then you should be cooking with gas ;-) Sorry to hit you with that much at once... do the last things first and worry about aliases later... that just makes things more integrated and nicer > I just set up a Red Hat 7.3 box and gave it the hostname you suggested - > parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au > I installed Postfix and Cucipop. > To get postfix to work I had to make an entry in the hosts file - > 10.12.217.88 parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu au > There was only 127.0.0.1 localhost there. > > Also had to go in and edit Postfix's main.cf file to get inet_interfaces > from localhost to all . > Have no idea if that last was a good idea. > Next thing is to try to get internal mail forwarded on to the outer > world. > > Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Dorrell [mailto:andrew.dorrell@cisra.canon.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2002 7:47 AM > To: Parkes High School > Subject: Re: postfix etc > > Parkes High School wrote: > >>*Hello again Andrew* >> >>* * >> >>*I just installed a telnet server on the Mandrake 9.0 box and can now >>telnet into it from another machine on the network - to both port 23 > > and > >>port 25 - but still cannot send a test email from the workstation to > > the > >>smtp server - Postfix. So it seems like a Postfix configuration > > problem > >>perhaps?* > > > I see you have now received some other answers that are knowledgable > about postfix - good :-) > > The reason for trying to telnet to port 25 is that this is the port your > > SMTP server listens on. Being able to telnet to it just shows that its > there and working - helps you narrow down where to look. But you have > that now with the postfix forwarding configuration fix. > > Hope it goes well. > > >>*The pop server cucipop does not give an error* >> >>* * >> >>*Peter* >> > > > -- Andrew Dorrell PhD. Senior Research Engineer Canon Information Systems Research Australia Phone: 61 2 9805 2224 1 Thomas Holt Drive, North Ryde, NSW 2113. Fax: 61 2 9805 2865 From parkeshs@ozemail.com.au Wed Nov 6 08:38:06 2002 Received: from itumx1.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx1.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.16]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA60bb9J022252 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:38:06 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp2.central.det.win (itfsmtp2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.32]) by itumx1.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA60eCGg133956 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:40:16 +1100 (EST) Received: from librarian (Not Verified[10.12.217.74]) by itfsmtp2.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:40:10 +1100 From: "Parkes High School" To: Message-ID: <000001c2852c$c9eb9530$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C28588.FD5C0D30" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: [Lias] squid no running copy Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Nov 6 08:39:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:38:06 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C28588.FD5C0D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I restart squid I get this unnerving error message: Squid: error: no running copy What does this mean? What can I do about it? If I run ps I see no useful information Peter Hughes Parkes HS ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C28588.FD5C0D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If I restart squid I get this unnerving error message:

Squid: error: no running copy

 

What does this mean?  What can I do about = it?

 

If I run ps I see no useful = information

 

Peter Hughes

Parkes HS

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C28588.FD5C0D30-- From ken_yap@users.sourceforge.net Wed Nov 6 08:50:23 2002 Received: from mta04ps.bigpond.com (mta04ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.136]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA60nq9J022382 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:50:23 +0800 Received: from ken.ken.com.au ([144.135.25.78]) by mta04ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mta04ps Jul 16 2002 22:47:55) with SMTP id H54QFI00.DMI for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:52:30 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-136-77-6.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.136.77.6]) by PSMAM04.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0n 98/43706925); 06 Nov 2002 10:52:30 Received: from ken.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ken.ken.com.au (Postfix on SuSE Linux 8.0 (i386)) with ESMTP id 1D6A8267D for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:52:25 +1100 To: Linux in Australian Schools Subject: Re: [Lias] squid no running copy From: ken_yap@users.sourceforge.net In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:38:06 +1100. <000001c2852c$c9eb9530$4ad90c0a@librarian> Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Message-Flag: Linux : The choice of a GNU generation X-Face: bak'McMAD{%JrA$mQ(j_Ex_o?a/F8/Ntng*t2KX(NcfGalVs^Ke^C61:F Message-Id: <20021106005225.1D6A8267D@ken.ken.com.au> Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Nov 6 08:51:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:52:25 +1100 >If I restart squid I get this unnerving error message: > >Squid: error: no running copy It means there was no running squid to stop. If you really wanted a cold start, you should do start, not restart. The other possibility is that squid died, which is the real problem. From arjen@mysql.com Thu Nov 7 07:12:33 2002 Received: from george.bitbike.com (c16869.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au [210.49.47.235]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA6NC19J001359 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:12:32 +0800 Received: (from arjen@localhost) by george.bitbike.com (8.11.6/linuxconf) id gA6MugN16852; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:56:42 +1000 From: Arjen Lentz To: Linux in Australian Schools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Message-Id: <1036623402.1380.165.camel@george.bitbike.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by digital.linux.org.au id gA6NC19J001359 Subject: [Lias] [Fwd: (Microsoft) Halloween VII: Survey Says] Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Nov 7 07:13:01 2002 X-Original-Date: 07 Nov 2002 08:56:42 +1000 ESR (Eric Raymond) has received yet another internal Microsoft Memo http://opensource.org/halloween/halloween7.php Halloween VII: Survey Says "The document reproduced below was presented at a Microsoft internal Linux Strategic Review held at the Microsoft offices in Berlin during Sept. 2002. I received it on 5 November 2002." [Arjen comment] one of the main things is that Microsoft's research has found that: [snip] "* Messages that criticize OSS, Linux, & the GPL are NOT effective. Messaging that discusses possible Linux patent violations, pings the OSS development process for lacking accountability, attempts to call out the 'viral' aspect of the GPL, and the like are only marginally effective in driving unfavorable opinions around OSS, Linux, and the GPL, and in some cases backfire. On the other hand ‘positive’ OSS, Linux, and GPL messages are very effective - both across geographies and audiences." [snap] Microsoft now aims to focus on TCO (total cost of ownership), even though their survey also showed that even for an opensource TCO equal to Microsoft's licensing, people still saw opensource as more favourable (with reasons like "alternative to microsoft" and "not solely dependent on US technology"). But do read the whole thing... it's quite informative! Cheers, Arjen. -- MySQL Training in Sydney: 9-13 Dec 2002, http://www.mysql.com/training/ Purchase Training, Support, Licenses @ https://order.mysql.com/?marl __ ___ ___ ____ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ / Mr. Arjen G. Lentz / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Technical Writer, Trainer /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Brisbane, QLD Australia <___/ www.mysql.com From jsimovic@rydesc-h.schools.nsw.edu.au Fri Nov 8 10:28:24 2002 Received: from itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.144]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA82Rt9J014883 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:28:24 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp2.central.det.win (itfsmtp2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.32]) by itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA82Uww9106549 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:30:58 +1100 (EST) Received: from msdcsrv1.rsc.cxm (Not Verified[10.14.141.21]) by itfsmtp2.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 13:30:58 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: M$ SFU 3 Thread-Index: AcKGz5e3aq9lVNqBQQGMKqu2UoRMaA== From: "John Simovic" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by digital.linux.org.au id gA82Rt9J014883 Subject: [Lias] M$ SFU 3 Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 8 10:29:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:36:08 +1100 Anybody used Microsoft Services for Unix 3.0. If so, how well does it work for authentication and mounting nfs shares.(In other words am I going to have to reboot every 5 minutes) TIA From parkeshs@ozemail.com.au Fri Nov 8 11:39:05 2002 Received: from itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.144]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA83ca9J015457 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:39:05 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp2.central.det.win (itfsmtp2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.32]) by itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA83fdw9120176 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:41:39 +1100 (EST) Received: from librarian (Not Verified[10.12.217.74]) by itfsmtp2.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:41:39 +1100 From: "Parkes High School" To: Message-ID: <000201c286d8$76e25ec0$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C28734.AA52D6C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: [Lias] squid Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 8 11:40:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:39:37 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C28734.AA52D6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to configure the squid.conf file to block machines on my network with certain IP addresses from accessing the Internet? Peter Hughes Parkes HS ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C28734.AA52D6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is it possible to configure the squid.conf = file to block machines on my network  with certain IP addresses from = accessing the Internet?

 

Peter Hughes

Parkes HS

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C28734.AA52D6C0-- From parkeshs@ozemail.com.au Fri Nov 8 13:04:10 2002 Received: from itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.144]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA853g9J016137 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:04:10 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp2.central.det.win (itfsmtp2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.32]) by itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA856kw9141919 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:06:46 +1100 (EST) Received: from librarian (Not Verified[10.12.217.74]) by itfsmtp2.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 16:06:45 +1100 From: "Parkes High School" To: Message-ID: <000801c286e4$5aab33b0$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C28740.8E1BABB0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: [Lias] squid pid Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 8 13:05:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:04:44 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C28740.8E1BABB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a problem with squid. When I type the command service squid restart I get a response that there is no running copy. If I type service squid status the response is: Squid (pid 1599 1233 1204) is running Squid: error: no running copy When I make changes to the squid.conf file the changes do not take effect if I restart squid, - I have to reboot. I have seen the response in the squid faq but really do not understand how to carry out the instructions there. Can any one help in rudimentary terms? Peter ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C28740.8E1BABB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a = problem with squid.

 

When I = type the command service squid restart I get a response that there is no running = copy.

If I type = service squid status the response is:

Squid (pid 1599 1233 1204) is = running

Squid: error: no running = copy

 

When I = make changes to the squid.conf  file the changes do not take effect if I  = restart squid,  - I have to reboot.

 

I have = seen the response in the squid faq but really do not understand how to carry out the = instructions there.

 

Can any = one help in rudimentary terms?

 

Peter

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C28740.8E1BABB0-- From dhooper@team.emerge.net.au Fri Nov 8 13:15:27 2002 Received: from goldfish.team.emerge.net.au (air-gw.team.emerge.net.au [203.57.130.29]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with ESMTP id gA85Ew9J016332 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:15:27 +0800 Subject: RE: [Lias] squid pid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C286E6.3850F2B7" Message-ID: <3076C6BB83297748A2614A00F6A9D735055F09@goldfish.team.emerge.net.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Lias] squid pid Thread-Index: AcKG5UP38x2UuY/WReCxo76NBvZEegAAFfWw From: "Daniel Hooper" To: "Parkes High School" , Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 8 13:16:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:18:06 +0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C286E6.3850F2B7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter, =20 Start with a clean squid.conf, eg.. get the one that is shipped with your distrib, modify the ACL's to allow your network range to use the proxy server. =20 Depending on your distribution but in the majority of them you'd start/restart squid by /etc/init.d/squid start =20 If its already running, try squid -k reconfigure=20 =20 That will reconfigure squid on the fly. =20 Also, double check your cache, it should live in /var/spool/squid, if there's nothing in there, do squid -z to create the directories. =20 Best of luck. =20 -Daniel Hooper =20 -----Original Message----- From: Parkes High School [mailto:parkeshs@ozemail.com.au]=20 Sent: Friday, 8 November 2002 1:05 PM To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: [Lias] squid pid =20 I have a problem with squid. =20 When I type the command service squid restart I get a response that there is no running copy. If I type service squid status the response is: Squid (pid 1599 1233 1204) is running Squid: error: no running copy =20 When I make changes to the squid.conf file the changes do not take effect if I restart squid, - I have to reboot. =20 I have seen the response in the squid faq but really do not understand how to carry out the instructions there. =20 Can any one help in rudimentary terms? =20 Peter =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C286E6.3850F2B7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Peter,

 

Start with a clean squid.conf, eg.. = get the one that is shipped with your distrib, modify the ACL’s to = allow your network range to use the proxy server.

 

Depending on your distribution but = in the majority of them you’d start/restart squid by /etc/init.d/squid = start

 

If its already running, try squid = –k reconfigure

 

That will reconfigure squid on the = fly.

 

Also, double check your cache, it = should live in /var/spool/squid, if there’s nothing in there, do squid = –z to create the directories.

 

Best of luck.

 

-Daniel Hooper

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Parkes High School [mailto:parkeshs@ozemail.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 8 November 2002 1:05 PM
To: = lias@lists.linux.org.au
Subject: [Lias] squid = pid

 

I have a problem with squid.

 

When I type the command service squid restart I get a response that there is no running copy.

If I type service squid status the response is:

Squid (pid 1599 1233 1204) = is running

Squid: error: no running = copy

 

When I make changes to the squid.conf  file the changes do not take effect = if I  restart squid,  - I have to reboot.

 

I have seen the response in the squid faq but really do not understand how to = carry out the instructions there.

 

Can any one help in rudimentary terms?

 

Peter

 

 

=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C286E6.3850F2B7-- From craig@postnewspapers.com.au Mon Nov 18 10:44:43 2002 Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-06.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.38]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with SMTP id gAI2iC9J002648 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:44:43 +0800 Received: (qmail 11398 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2002 02:44:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO postnewspapers.com.au) (203.59.125.43) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 18 Nov 2002 02:44:57 -0000 Received: from postnewspapers.com.au [10.0.0.10] by postnewspapers.com.au [10.0.0.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.8.R) for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:44:04 +0800 Message-ID: <3DD853F3.3020809@postnewspapers.com.au> From: Craig Ringer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020623 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en-gb, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] squid References: <000201c286d8$76e25ec0$4ad90c0a@librarian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.0.10 X-Return-Path: craig@postnewspapers.com.au X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Nov 18 10:45:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:44:03 +0800 Parkes High School wrote: > Is it possible to configure the squid.conf file to block machines on my > network with certain IP addresses from accessing the Internet? It certainly is. You just add an appropriate ACL in squid.conf, or even better you can use webmin to get a nice GUI. On my system, if I wanted to prevent the machine 10.0.0.1 from accessing the 'net, I'd add this to the ACL section of squid.conf: acl blockedhost src 10.0.0.1/255.255.255.255 "blockedhost" is the name I've given the ACL, and the blocked address includes a 32bit netmask that means "1 host". Note that this is an ACL that just matches the host, it does't say anything about what for. Then I add: http_access deny blockedhost to the access section of squid.conf and the host will be blocked. Similarly, to block the entire 10.0.0.0/24 block you: acl blockednet src 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 (and) http_access deny blockednet Note: order is not significant for ACL definitions but http_access definititions must be in order as the first match is used, much like iptables. Squid looks at each http_access line in turn and checks "does this apply? ok, next..." until it finds the first match and takes action from that. So, if you want everybody on 10.0.0.x except blockednet to have access you would have the following 2 ACLS (in any order): acl blockedhost src 10.0.0.1/255.255.255.255 acl localnet src 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 and make sure that these were in the following order: http_access deny blockedhost http_access allow localnet http_access deny all IF you instead had the http_access rules in this order: http_access allow localnet http_access deny blockedhost http_access deny all then the blockedhost rule would have no effect and blockedhost would still be allowed access, as blockedhost is also matched by localnet. If you want more information, there's lots of documentation for Squid both packaged with it and on the 'net. -- Craig Ringer GPG Key Fingerprint: AF1C ABFE 7E64 E9C8 FC27 C16E D3CE CDC0 0E93 380D -- if it ain't broke, add features 'till it is. (or:) while (! broken) { features ++ ; broken = isBroken(features) } From parkeshs@ozemail.com.au Wed Nov 20 11:54:30 2002 Received: from itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.144]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAK3s9tr002181 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:54:30 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp1.central.det.win (itfsmtp1.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.31]) by itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAK3sMgg432512 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:54:22 +1100 (EST) Received: from librarian (Not Verified[10.12.217.74]) by itfsmtp1.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:54:21 +1100 From: "Parkes High School" To: Message-ID: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C290A4.63A46670" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: [Lias] users changing passwords Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Nov 20 11:55:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:52:03 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C290A4.63A46670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a RH 8 mail server set up OK Is it possible for my users to log in to the server via telnet to change their passwords? If so what commands shld they use please? Peter Hughes Parkes HS ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C290A4.63A46670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a RH 8 mail server set up = OK

Is it possible for my users to log in to the = server via telnet to change their passwords?

If so what commands shld they use = please?

 

Peter Hughes

Parkes HS

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C290A4.63A46670-- From lias@draxsen.com Wed Nov 20 12:11:26 2002 Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAK4B3tr002484 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:11:26 +0800 Received: from neo.draxsen.com (ppp624.nsw.padsl.internode.on.net [150.101.194.111]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gAK4BKp5050149; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:41:21 +1030 (CST) Received: (from apache@localhost) by neo.draxsen.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gAK4BJK08288; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:11:19 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: neo.draxsen.com: apache set sender to lias@draxsen.com using -f Received: from 192.168.1.201 ( [192.168.1.201]) as user fil@localhost by server with HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:11:19 +1100 Message-ID: <1037765479.3ddb0b67a851d@server> From: Phil Scarratt To: Parkes High School Cc: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] users changing passwords References: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> In-Reply-To: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.1.201 Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Nov 20 12:12:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:11:19 +1100 Yes, although SSH would be a better option. In either case they need a client. If you are using Windows workstations, they come with a telnet client. A windows port of OpenSSH is available for free from http://www.networksimplicity.com/. 1. telnet or ssh to the linux machine (which must have permissions to allow either e telnet or ssh connection) and login with the old password 2. Use the passwd command to change the password (simply typing "passwd" and pressing enter is sufficient to change password). That's it. Fil Quoting Parkes High School : > I have a RH 8 mail server set up OK > > Is it possible for my users to log in to the server via telnet to change > their passwords? > > If so what commands shld they use please? > > > > Peter Hughes > > Parkes HS > > > > > > -- Phil Scarratt IT Consultant 0403 531 271 From paul@gear.dyndns.org Wed Nov 20 12:18:02 2002 Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAK4Hetr002562 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:18:02 +0800 Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id gAK4HxP71999; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:17:59 +1000 (EST) Received: from gearp.cfmu.citec.qld.gov.au(marshap.citec.qld.gov.au 147.132.22.104) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma071611; Wed, 20 Nov 02 14:17:39 +1000 Received: from gear.dyndns.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gearp.cfmu.citec.qld.gov.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAK4Hcu11524 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:17:38 +1000 Message-ID: <3DDB0CE1.1070906@gear.dyndns.org> From: Paul Gear User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020809 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] users changing passwords References: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Nov 20 12:19:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:17:37 +1000 Parkes High School wrote: > I have a RH 8 mail server set up OK > > Is it possible for my users to log in to the server via telnet to > change their passwords? > > If so what commands shld they use please? > What i have used and i think you would find better is to provide a secure web interface to linuxconf (get it from the Red Hat 7.2 CDs - it was obsoleted in 7.3) using stunnel and use the linuxconf password change dialog. That way they never have to login to the box and cannot poke around and mess things up. Another option to use is Eudora's poppassd, which does the equivalent of telnet and passwd in one step and doesn't require logging in. You should be able to find this easily by searching google.com or freshmeat.net. Paul From paul@gear.dyndns.org Thu Nov 21 20:10:29 2002 Received: from gear01.gear.dyndns.org (CPE-203-45-168-73.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.168.73]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gALCA8tr023392 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:10:29 +0800 Received: from gear.dyndns.org (enoch.gear.dyndns.org [10.199.1.7]) by gear01.gear.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gALCAf402126 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:10:42 +1000 Message-ID: <3DDCCD41.1020601@gear.dyndns.org> From: Paul Gear User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] users changing passwords References: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> <3DDB0CE1.1070906@gear.dyndns.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.63.3.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Nov 21 20:11:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:10:41 +1000 Paul Gear wrote: > Parkes High School wrote: > >> I have a RH 8 mail server set up OK >> >> Is it possible for my users to log in to the server via telnet to >> change their passwords? >> >> If so what commands shld they use please? >> > > What i have used and i think you would find better is to provide a > secure web interface to linuxconf (get it from the Red Hat 7.2 CDs - > it was obsoleted in 7.3) using stunnel and use the linuxconf password > change dialog. That way they never have to login to the box and > cannot poke around and mess things up. Les Bell suggested http://www.webmin.com to me instead of linuxconf. It looks pretty good. Paul http://paulgear.webhop.net From lias@draxsen.com Fri Nov 22 04:07:36 2002 Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gALK7Etr026780 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 04:07:35 +0800 Received: from neo.draxsen.com (ppp624.nsw.padsl.internode.on.net [150.101.194.111]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gALK7np5086764; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 06:37:50 +1030 (CST) Received: (from apache@localhost) by neo.draxsen.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gALK7m212659; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:07:48 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: neo.draxsen.com: apache set sender to lias@draxsen.com using -f Received: from 192.168.1.201 ( [192.168.1.201]) as user fil@localhost by server with HTTP; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:07:47 +1100 Message-ID: <1037909267.3ddd3d13aafbf@server> From: Phil Scarratt To: Paul Gear Cc: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] users changing passwords References: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> <3DDB0CE1.1070906@gear.dyndns.org> <3DDCCD41.1020601@gear.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <3DDCCD41.1020601@gear.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.1.201 Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 04:08:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:07:47 +1100 I can vouch for webmin - pretty good and extremely convenient. Make sure you keep up with the security updates and all should be well. I use it at various places. Fil Quoting Paul Gear : > Paul Gear wrote: > > > Parkes High School wrote: > > > >> I have a RH 8 mail server set up OK > >> > >> Is it possible for my users to log in to the server via telnet to > >> change their passwords? > >> > >> If so what commands shld they use please? > >> > > > > What i have used and i think you would find better is to provide a > > secure web interface to linuxconf (get it from the Red Hat 7.2 CDs - > > it was obsoleted in 7.3) using stunnel and use the linuxconf password > > change dialog. That way they never have to login to the box and > > cannot poke around and mess things up. > > > Les Bell suggested http://www.webmin.com to me instead of linuxconf. It > looks pretty good. > > Paul > http://paulgear.webhop.net > > > _______________________________________________ > lias mailing list > lias@lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lias > -- Phil Scarratt IT Consultant 0403 531 271 From lesbell@lesbell.com.au Fri Nov 22 05:55:07 2002 Received: from bifrost.lesbell.com.au (bifrost.lesbell.com.au [203.28.234.31]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gALLsktr027648; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 05:55:06 +0800 Subject: Re: [Lias] users changing passwords To: Paul Gear Cc: lias@lists.linux.org.au, lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: From: "Les Bell" X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Bifrost/Les Bell and Associates Pty Ltd(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 22/11/2002 08:56:37 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 05:56:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:55:19 +1100 Paul Gear wrote: >> Les Bell suggested http://www.webmin.com to me instead of linuxconf. It looks pretty good. << Thanks for the reminder, Paul - I got a bit busy yesterday to follow up. Actually, to allow users to change their passwords, I'd recommend Usermin, which is available from the same site, and allows users, rather than administrators, to change various options. It also includes web-based email access and a bunch of other stuff. One nice feature of Webmin and Usermin is their ability to keep UNIX, Samba and other passwords in sync, avoiding user confusion when they change one but not the other. I've had great success in letting complete novice users experiment with Linux in a classroom environment. I also have it installed in a local school, where I've snuck in a squid proxy and am looking at some other applications for the next spare old computer. Best, --- Les Bell, CISSP [http://www.lesbell.com.au] From alan.byrne@burnsie.com.au Fri Nov 22 10:23:38 2002 Received: from mail009.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail009.syd.optusnet.com.au [210.49.20.137]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAM2NLtr030433 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:23:37 +0800 Received: from burnsie (c19527.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.28.175.110]) by mail009.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id gAM2O1F29479 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:24:01 +1100 From: "Alan Byrne" To: "linux list" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2922A.E5A73EE0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Subject: [Lias] Linux courses Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 11:17:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:27:24 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2922A.E5A73EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello everybody, I’ve been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it. But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a very strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely lost. My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? I’ m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online curriculum, instructor led would be best. Thanks in advance, Alan Byrne ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2922A.E5A73EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello everybody,

 

I’ve been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am = very impressed with it.  But the problem = is, I have no idea what I am doing.  = I have a very strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am = absolutely lost.

 

My question is:  = Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux?  I want to learn how to do hardcore things like = setting up apache, squid and use scripts.  = Are there courses available that will start off with the basics and end with in the = advanced stuff?  Or a combination = of courses?  I’m not = very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online curriculum, instructor = led would be best.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Alan Byrne

------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2922A.E5A73EE0-- From leon@cyberknights.com.au Fri Nov 22 11:25:26 2002 Received: from home.dy.cyberknights.com.au (baboon199.arach.net.au [203.34.17.199]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAM3P9tr031042 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:25:26 +0800 Received: from newleon (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by home.dy.cyberknights.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B818B13D0E for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:37:34 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Leon Brooks Organization: CyberKnights - modern tools, traditional dedication To: "linux list" Subject: Re: [Lias] Linux courses User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200211221137.34499.leon@cyberknights.com.au> Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 11:26:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:37:34 +0800 On Friday 22 November 2002 10:27 am, Alan Byrne wrote: > My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I > want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and > use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the > basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? > I’ m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online > curriculum, instructor led would be best. Will be soon. Stay tuned. You can also read documents like Rute (Google for it). Cheers; Leon -- http://www.cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools, traditional dedication http://slpwa.linux.org.au/ Member, Linux Professionals West Aus http://conf.linux.org.au/ THE Australian Linux Technical Conf: 22-25 January 2003, Perth: be there! From paul@kcc.wa.edu.au Fri Nov 22 11:32:40 2002 Received: from localhost.localdomain (203-109-229-101.ultrawholesale.com.au [203.109.229.101]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAM3WHtr031154 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:32:35 +0800 Received: from bauma (bauma.kcc.wa.edu.au [10.0.0.10]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id gAM3vjj04946; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:57:45 +0800 From: "Paul Baumgarten" To: "'Alan Byrne'" , "'linux list'" Subject: RE: [Lias] Linux courses Message-ID: <000201c291d8$00936ba0$0a00000a@bauma> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2921B.0EB6ABA0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 11:33:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:34:02 +0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2921B.0EB6ABA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan: I don't know where you live... but a great place to start... and to network with other linux people... would be the Linux Conference Australia 2003 which is coming up in January. It'll be in Perth. Goto http://linux.conf.au/ for more info. Otherwise ask your local LUG (http://www.linux.org.au/usergroups/) what training they are aware of in your area. Regards Paul Baumgarten Information Technology Manager Kingsway Christian College Email: paul@kcc.wa.edu.au Office: 08 9302 8777 Mobile: 04 1994 2779 -----Original Message----- From: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au [mailto:lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au] On Behalf Of Alan Byrne Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 10:27 AM To: linux list Subject: [Lias] Linux courses Hello everybody, I've been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it. But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a very strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely lost. My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? I'm not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online curriculum, instructor led would be best. Thanks in advance, Alan Byrne ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2921B.0EB6ABA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Alan:
 
I=20 don't know where you live... but a great place to start... and to = network with=20 other linux people... would be the Linux Conference Australia 2003 which = is=20 coming up in January.  It'll be in Perth.  Goto http://linux.conf.au/ for more = info. =20 Otherwise ask your local LUG (http://www.linux.org.au/user= groups/)=20 what training they are aware of in your area.
 
Regards
 

Paul Baumgarten
Information Technology = Manager
Kingsway=20 Christian College

Email: paul@kcc.wa.edu.au
Office: 08 9302=20 8777
Mobile: 04 1994 2779

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au [mailto:lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au] = On=20 Behalf Of Alan Byrne
Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 = 10:27=20 AM
To: linux list
Subject: [Lias] Linux=20 courses

Hello=20 everybody,

 

I’ve=20 been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with = it.  But the problem is, I have = no idea=20 what I am doing.  I have = a very=20 strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely=20 lost.

 

My=20 question is:  Does = anyone know=20 where I can learn how to use linux? =20 I want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up = apache, squid=20 and use scripts.  Are = there=20 courses available that will start off with the basics and end with in = the=20 advanced stuff?  Or a = combination=20 of courses?  I’m = not very good=20 when it comes to learning from a book or from an online curriculum, = instructor=20 led would be best.

 

Thanks=20 in advance,

 

Alan=20 Byrne

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2921B.0EB6ABA0-- From lesbell@lesbell.com.au Fri Nov 22 11:35:05 2002 Received: from bifrost.lesbell.com.au (bifrost.lesbell.com.au [203.28.234.31]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAM3Ymtr031261 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:35:05 +0800 Subject: Re: [Lias] Linux courses To: "Alan Byrne" Cc: "linux list" X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: From: "Les Bell" X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Bifrost/Les Bell and Associates Pty Ltd(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 22/11/2002 02:36:38 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 11:36:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:35:26 +1100 IBM Australia has a very good curriculum of Linux courses which starts out with the basics and builds up to specialised courses, including building clusters, installing Linux on mainframes, etc. Most are developed in Europe, and are intended to match various industry certifications, including LPI, RHCE, etc. See http://www-8.ibm.com/services/learning/au/ta-iris.nsf/External%5CX-08?OpenView&Start=1.3.13&Count=30&ExpandView for details. Best, --- Les Bell, CISSP [http://www.lesbell.com.au] From paul@gear.dyndns.org Fri Nov 22 11:47:26 2002 Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAM3l9tr031453 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:47:26 +0800 Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id gAM3lpT43037; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:47:51 +1000 (EST) Received: from gearp.cfmu.citec.qld.gov.au(marshap.citec.qld.gov.au 147.132.22.104) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma042852; Fri, 22 Nov 02 13:47:40 +1000 Received: from gear.dyndns.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gearp.cfmu.citec.qld.gov.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAM3ldu01424 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:47:40 +1000 Message-ID: <3DDDA8DA.1010207@gear.dyndns.org> From: Paul Gear User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020809 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] Linux courses References: <200211221137.34499.leon@cyberknights.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 11:48:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:47:38 +1000 Leon Brooks wrote: >On Friday 22 November 2002 10:27 am, Alan Byrne wrote: > > >>My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I >>want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and >>use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the >>basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? >>I’ m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online >>curriculum, instructor led would be best. >> >> > >Will be soon. Stay tuned. > >You can also read documents like Rute (Google for it). > Rute is definitely a comprehensive guide for the beginner. Paul From alan@burnsie.com.au Fri Nov 22 11:49:22 2002 Received: from mail021.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail021.syd.optusnet.com.au [210.49.20.161]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAM3n2tr031480 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:49:21 +0800 Received: from burnsie (c19527.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.28.175.110]) by mail021.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id gAM3ngv13173 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:49:43 +1100 From: "Alan Byrne" To: "linux list" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C29236.DE280850" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Subject: [Lias] RE: Linux courses Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 11:50:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:53:06 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C29236.DE280850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Oh, and I live in Sydney, around the Parramatta area. Cheers, Alan -----Original Message----- From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan.byrne@burnsie.com.au] Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 1:27 PM To: linux list Subject: Linux courses Hello everybody, I’ve been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it. But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a very strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely lost. My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? I’ m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online curriculum, instructor led would be best. Thanks in advance, Alan Byrne ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C29236.DE280850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Oh, and I live in Sydney, around the Parramatta = area.

 

Cheers,

 

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan.byrne@burnsie.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 22 November = 2002 1:27 PM
To: linux list
Subject: Linux = courses<= /p>

 <= /p>

Hello everybody,

 

I’ve been running redhat for = about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it.  = But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing.  I have a very strong windows background, but when it = comes to Linux I am absolutely lost.

 

My question is:  Does anyone know where I can learn how to use = linux?  I want to learn how to do = hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and use scripts.  Are there courses available that will start off with = the basics and end with in the advanced stuff?  Or a combination of courses?  I’m not very good when it comes to learning = from a book or from an online curriculum, instructor led would be = best.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Alan Byrne<= /p>

------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C29236.DE280850-- From paul@gear.dyndns.org Fri Nov 22 11:55:55 2002 Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAM3tatr031672 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:55:55 +0800 Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id gAM3uI655363; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:56:18 +1000 (EST) Received: from gearp.cfmu.citec.qld.gov.au(marshap.citec.qld.gov.au 147.132.22.104) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma055229; Fri, 22 Nov 02 13:56:14 +1000 Received: from gear.dyndns.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gearp.cfmu.citec.qld.gov.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAM3uBu01528 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:56:11 +1000 Message-ID: <3DDDAADB.2010101@gear.dyndns.org> From: Paul Gear User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020809 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] Linux courses References: <000201c291d8$00936ba0$0a00000a@bauma> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 11:56:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:56:11 +1000 Paul Baumgarten wrote: > Alan: > > I don't know where you live... but a great place to start... and to > network with other linux people... would be the Linux Conference > Australia 2003 which is coming up in January. It'll be in Perth. > Goto http://linux.conf.au/ for more info. Otherwise ask your local > LUG (http://www.linux.org.au/usergroups/) what training they are aware > of in your area. > > Regards > > > Paul Baumgarten > Information Technology Manager > Kingsway Christian College > I can vouch for Linux Conference - i went to the one here in Brisbane this year and it was great! Paul From dhooper@team.emerge.net.au Fri Nov 22 12:05:00 2002 Received: from goldfish.team.emerge.net.au (air-gw.team.emerge.net.au [203.57.130.29]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAM44gtr031853 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:05:00 +0800 Subject: RE: [Lias] RE: Linux courses MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C291DC.623DC766" Message-ID: <3076C6BB83297748A2614A00F6A9D735055F19@goldfish.team.emerge.net.au> X-MS-Has-Attach: content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Lias] RE: Linux courses Thread-Index: AcKR2qZfL6fw88P3QLuyrbYFLBNsbAAAHfRQ From: "Daniel Hooper" To: "Alan Byrne" , "linux list" Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 12:05:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:05:24 +0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C291DC.623DC766 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your probably just better off installing what ever packages you want to toy around and just play with them, most configuration files are straight forward and well commented. There's also a couple of quick DOS to UNIX guide's on the web, I've noticed that a lot of these linux courses only cater for Redhat, hopefully after time you will move onto something a little better :-) eg.. Debian =20 Oh..and if you get really stuck trying to make something work, there's always webmin which is handy for getting a nice configuration interface for pretty much every daemon/service on your system. =20 -Daniel Hooper =20 -----Original Message----- From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan@burnsie.com.au]=20 Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 11:53 AM To: linux list Subject: [Lias] RE: Linux courses =20 Oh, and I live in Sydney, around the Parramatta area. =20 Cheers, =20 Alan -----Original Message----- From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan.byrne@burnsie.com.au] Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 1:27 PM To: linux list Subject: Linux courses =20 Hello everybody, =20 I've been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it. But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a very strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely lost. =20 My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? I'm not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online curriculum, instructor led would be best. =20 Thanks in advance, =20 Alan Byrne ------_=_NextPart_001_01C291DC.623DC766 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Your probably just better off = installing what ever packages you want to toy around and just play with them, most configuration files are straight forward and well commented. = There’s also a couple of quick DOS to UNIX guide’s on the web, I’ve = noticed that a lot of these linux courses only cater for Redhat, hopefully after time = you will move onto something a little better J eg.. Debian

 

Oh..and if you get really stuck = trying to make something work, there’s always webmin which is handy for = getting a nice configuration interface for pretty much every daemon/service on = your system.

 

-Daniel Hooper

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan@burnsie.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 22 November = 2002 11:53 AM
To: linux list
Subject: [Lias] RE: Linux = courses

 

Oh, and I live in Sydney, around the Parramatta area.

 

Cheers,

 

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan.byrne@burnsie.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 22 November = 2002 1:27 PM
To: linux list
Subject: Linux = courses

 

Hello everybody,

 

I’ve been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with = it.  But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing.  I have a very = strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely = lost.

 

My question is:  Does anyone know where I can learn how to use = linux?  I want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid = and use scripts.  Are there courses available that will start off with the = basics and end with in the advanced stuff?  Or a combination of = courses?  I’m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online curriculum, instructor led would be best.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Alan Byrne

=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C291DC.623DC766-- From paul@gear.dyndns.org Fri Nov 22 12:15:16 2002 Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAM4Ewtr032028 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:15:16 +0800 Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id gAM4Ffc89642; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:15:41 +1000 (EST) Received: from gearp.cfmu.citec.qld.gov.au(marshap.citec.qld.gov.au 147.132.22.104) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma088957; Fri, 22 Nov 02 14:15:16 +1000 Received: from gear.dyndns.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gearp.cfmu.citec.qld.gov.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAM4FEu01691 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:15:14 +1000 Message-ID: <3DDDAF52.3040100@gear.dyndns.org> From: Paul Gear User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020809 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux list Subject: Re: [Lias] RE: Linux courses References: <3076C6BB83297748A2614A00F6A9D735055F19@goldfish.team.emerge.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri Nov 22 12:16:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:15:14 +1000 Daniel Hooper wrote: > Your probably just better off installing what ever packages you want > to toy around and just play with them, most configuration files are > straight forward and well commented. There’s also a couple of quick > DOS to UNIX guide’s on the web, I’ve noticed that a lot of these linux > courses only cater for Redhat, hopefully after time you will move onto > something a little better J eg.. Debian > Aren't distribution wars better off left for another mailing list? Paul From parkeshs@ozemail.com.au Mon Nov 25 08:38:36 2002 Received: from itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.144]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAP0cKtr001334 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 08:38:36 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp2.central.det.win (itfsmtp2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.32]) by itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAP0dUgg331633 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:39:30 +1100 (EST) Received: from librarian (Not Verified[10.12.217.74]) by itfsmtp2.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:39:21 +1100 From: "Parkes High School" To: Message-ID: <001701c2941a$c30e4cb0$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C29476.F67EC4B0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon Nov 25 08:39:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:36:43 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C29476.F67EC4B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0019_01C29476.F67EC4B0" ------=_NextPart_001_0019_01C29476.F67EC4B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Setting up an internal mail system This was set up on a Red Hat 8 machine using postfix as the smtp server and cucipop as the pop server. DET has assigned my school Parkes High School the hostname parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au I gave the linux machine the name mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au DET reserves a number 21 for mail servers so I gave it an IP address of 10.12.217.21 (10.12.217.21 is reserved for a proxy server) Postfix was a part of a default Red Hat 8.0 server install but it always pays to check on the packages that are being installed from the word go so make sure you check that it is installed. Also at this time it is work ensuring that the ftp server package vsFTPD is installed so you can ftp files to the linux machine. Cucipop can be obtained from: http://www.vergenet.net/linux/cucipop/ cucipop is pretty simple and runs without fiddling but postfix was another matter. With help from this list I configured Postfix to send mail internall around our school and with some further configuring got ITD to enable relaying of mail to and from outside the school. This took a little more fiddling with the main.cf file. Also if you want to be able to send and receive on your account to the outside world you need to contact ITD and ask them to create an MX record for you. The initial person you talk to on the ITD help deks will probably not me able to do this for you but they will log your call, give you a job number and someone will eventuall get back to you. Here is a direct number you might try: 02 9942 9641 here are the key entried you need to make in the main.cf file: /etc/postfix/main.cf these are my setinga so you will need to alter them to suit your own situation. myhostname = mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au mydomain = parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au myorigin = $mydomain inet interfaces = all mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain mynetworks = 10.12.217.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 relayhost = [smtp.schools.nsw.edu.au]. Many thanks to various members of this list - especially Andrew Dorrell without whose help I would have floundered utterly. I attach a copy of my postfix main.cf Peter Hughes Parkes HS ------=_NextPart_001_0019_01C29476.F67EC4B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Setting up an internal mail = system

 

This was set up on a Red = Hat 8 machine using postfix as the smtp server and cucipop as the pop = server.

DET has assigned my school = Parkes High School the hostname = parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au

I gave the linux machine = the name mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au

 

DET reserves a number 21 = for mail servers so I gave it an IP address of 10.12.217.21

 

(10.12.217.21 is reserved = for a proxy server)

 

Postfix was a part of a = default Red Hat 8.0 server install but it always pays to check on the packages that = are being installed from the word go so make sure you check that it is = installed.

 

Also at this time it is = work ensuring that the ftp server package vsFTPD is = installed so you can ftp files to the linux machine.

 

Cucipop can be obtained = from:

http://www.vergenet.net/linu= x/cucipop/

 

cucipop is pretty simple = and runs without fiddling but postfix was another matter.

With help from this list I configured Postfix to send mail internall around our school and with = some further configuring got ITD to enable relaying of mail to and from = outside the school.  This took a little more fiddling with the main.cf = file.

 

Also if you want to be able = to send and receive on your account to the outside world you need to contact ITD = and ask them to create an MX record for you.  The initial person you = talk to on the ITD help deks will probably not me able to do this for you but they will = log your call, give you a job number and someone will eventuall get back to = you.

 

Here is a direct number you = might try:

02 9942 = 9641

 

here are the key entried = you need to make in the main.cf file:

 

/etc/postfix/main.cf<= /font>

 

these are my setinga so you = will need to alter them to suit your own situation.

myhostname =3D = mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au

 

mydomain =3D = parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au

 

myorigin =3D = $mydomain

 

inet interfaces =3D = all

 

mydestination =3D = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain

 

mynetworks =3D = 10.12.217.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8

 

relayhost =3D = [smtp.schools.nsw.edu.au].

 

Many thanks to various = members of this list - especially Andrew = Dorrell without whose help I would have floundered utterly.

 

I attach a copy of my = postfix main.cf

 

Peter = Hughes

Parkes HS

------=_NextPart_001_0019_01C29476.F67EC4B0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C29476.F67EC4B0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="main.cf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="main.cf" # Global Postfix configuration file. This file lists only a subset=0A= # of all 100+ parameters. See the sample-xxx.cf files for a full list.=0A= # =0A= # The general format is lines with parameter =3D value pairs. Lines=0A= # that begin with whitespace continue the previous line. A value can=0A= # contain references to other $names or ${name}s.=0A= #=0A= # NOTE - CHANGE NO MORE THAN 2-3 PARAMETERS AT A TIME, AND TEST IF=0A= # POSTFIX STILL WORKS AFTER EVERY CHANGE.=0A= =0A= # SOFT BOUNCE=0A= #=0A= # The soft_bounce parameter provides a limited safety net for=0A= # testing. When soft_bounce is enabled, mail will remain queued that=0A= # would otherwise bounce. This parameter disables locally-generated=0A= # bounces, and prevents the SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently=0A= # (by changing 5xx replies into 4xx replies). However, soft_bounce=0A= # is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing mistakes.=0A= #=0A= #soft_bounce =3D no=0A= =0A= # LOCAL PATHNAME INFORMATION=0A= #=0A= # The queue_directory specifies the location of the Postfix queue.=0A= # This is also the root directory of Postfix daemons that run chrooted.=0A= # See the files in examples/chroot-setup for setting up Postfix chroot=0A= # environments on different UNIX systems.=0A= #=0A= queue_directory =3D /var/spool/postfix=0A= =0A= # The command_directory parameter specifies the location of all=0A= # postXXX commands. The default value is $program_directory.=0A= #=0A= command_directory =3D /usr/sbin=0A= =0A= # The daemon_directory parameter specifies the location of all Postfix=0A= # daemon programs (i.e. programs listed in the master.cf file). The=0A= # default value is $program_directory. This directory must be owned=0A= # by root.=0A= #=0A= daemon_directory =3D /usr/libexec/postfix=0A= =0A= # QUEUE AND PROCESS OWNERSHIP=0A= #=0A= # The mail_owner parameter specifies the owner of the Postfix queue=0A= # and of most Postfix daemon processes. Specify the name of a user=0A= # account THAT DOES NOT SHARE ITS USER OR GROUP ID WITH OTHER ACCOUNTS=0A= # AND THAT OWNS NO OTHER FILES OR PROCESSES ON THE SYSTEM. In=0A= # particular, don't specify nobody or daemon. PLEASE USE A DEDICATED=0A= # USER.=0A= #=0A= mail_owner =3D postfix=0A= =0A= # The default_privs parameter specifies the default rights used by=0A= # the local delivery agent for delivery to external file or command.=0A= # These rights are used in the absence of a recipient user context.=0A= # DO NOT SPECIFY A PRIVILEGED USER OR THE POSTFIX OWNER.=0A= #=0A= #default_privs =3D nobody=0A= =0A= # INTERNET HOST AND DOMAIN NAMES=0A= # =0A= # The myhostname parameter specifies the internet hostname of this=0A= # mail system. The default is to use the fully-qualified domain name=0A= # from gethostname(). $myhostname is used as a default value for many=0A= # other configuration parameters.=0A= #=0A= myhostname =3D mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au=0A= #myhostname =3D virtual.domain.tld=0A= =0A= # The mydomain parameter specifies the local internet domain name.=0A= # The default is to use $myhostname minus the first component.=0A= # $mydomain is used as a default value for many other configuration=0A= # parameters.=0A= #=0A= mydomain =3D parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au=0A= =0A= # SENDING MAIL=0A= # =0A= # The myorigin parameter specifies the domain that locally-posted=0A= # mail appears to come from. The default is to append $myhostname,=0A= # which is fine for small sites. If you run a domain with multiple=0A= # machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2) set up=0A= # a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to=0A= # user@that.users.mailhost.=0A= #=0A= #myorigin =3D $myhostname=0A= myorigin =3D $mydomain=0A= =0A= # RECEIVING MAIL=0A= =0A= # The inet_interfaces parameter specifies the network interface=0A= # addresses that this mail system receives mail on. By default,=0A= # the software claims all active interfaces on the machine. The=0A= # parameter also controls delivery of mail to user@[ip.address].=0A= #=0A= #inet_interfaces =3D localhost=0A= inet_interfaces =3D all=0A= #inet_interfaces =3D $myhostname=0A= #inet_interfaces =3D $myhostname, localhost=0A= =0A= # The mydestination parameter specifies the list of domains that this=0A= # machine considers itself the final destination for. That includes=0A= # Sendmail-style virtual domains hosted on this machine.=0A= #=0A= # Do not include Postfix-style virtual domains - those domains are=0A= # specified elsewhere (see sample-virtual.cf, and sample-transport.cf).=0A= #=0A= # The default is $myhostname + localhost.$mydomain. On a mail domain=0A= # gateway, you should also include $mydomain. Do not specify the=0A= # names of domains that this machine is backup MX host for. Specify=0A= # those names via the relay_domains or permit_mx_backup settings for=0A= # the SMTP server (see sample-smtpd.cf).=0A= #=0A= # The local machine is always the final destination for mail addressed=0A= # to user@[the.net.work.address] of an interface that the mail system=0A= # receives mail on (see the inet_interfaces parameter).=0A= #=0A= # Specify a list of host or domain names, /file/name or type:table=0A= # patterns, separated by commas and/or whitespace. A /file/name=0A= # pattern is replaced by its contents; a type:table is matched when=0A= # a name matches a lookup key. Continue long lines by starting the=0A= # next line with whitespace.=0A= #=0A= #mydestination =3D $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain=0A= mydestination =3D $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain=0A= #mydestination =3D $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, $mydomain,=0A= # mail.$mydomain, www.$mydomain, ftp.$mydomain=0A= =0A= # TRUST AND RELAY CONTROL=0A= =0A= # The mynetworks parameter specifies the list of "trusted" SMTP=0A= # clients that have more privileges than "strangers".=0A= #=0A= # In particular, "trusted" SMTP clients are allowed to relay mail=0A= # through Postfix. See the smtpd_recipient_restrictions parameter=0A= # in file sample-smtpd.cf.=0A= #=0A= # You can specify the list of "trusted" network addresses by hand=0A= # or you can let Postfix do it for you (which is the default).=0A= #=0A= # By default (mynetworks_style =3D subnet), Postfix "trusts" SMTP=0A= # clients in the same IP subnetworks as the local machine.=0A= # On Linux, this does works correctly only with interfaces specified=0A= # with the "ifconfig" command.=0A= # =0A= # Specify "mynetworks_style =3D class" when Postfix should "trust" SMTP=0A= # clients in the same IP class A/B/C networks as the local machine.=0A= # Don't do this with a dialup site - it would cause Postfix to "trust"=0A= # your entire provider's network. Instead, specify an explicit=0A= # mynetworks list by hand, as described below.=0A= # =0A= # Specify "mynetworks_style =3D host" when Postfix should "trust"=0A= # only the local machine.=0A= # =0A= #mynetworks_style =3D class=0A= #mynetworks_style =3D subnet=0A= #mynetworks_style =3D host=0A= =0A= # Alternatively, you can specify the mynetworks list by hand, in=0A= # which case Postfix ignores the mynetworks_style setting.=0A= #=0A= # Specify an explicit list of network/netmask patterns, where the=0A= # mask specifies the number of bits in the network part of a host=0A= # address.=0A= #=0A= # You can also specify the absolute pathname of a pattern file instead=0A= # of listing the patterns here. Specify type:table for table-based = lookups=0A= # (the value on the table right-hand side is not used).=0A= #=0A= mynetworks =3D 10.12.217.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8=0A= #mynetworks =3D $config_directory/mynetworks=0A= #mynetworks =3D hash:/etc/postfix/network_table=0A= =0A= # The relay_domains parameter restricts what clients this mail system=0A= # will relay mail from, or what destinations this system will relay=0A= # mail to. See the smtpd_recipient_restrictions restriction in the=0A= # file sample-smtpd.cf for detailed information.=0A= #=0A= # By default, Postfix relays mail=0A= # - from "trusted" clients whose IP address matches $mynetworks, =0A= # - from "trusted" clients matching $relay_domains or subdomains thereof,=0A= # - from untrusted clients to destinations that match $relay_domains=0A= # or subdomains thereof, except addresses with sender-specified = routing.=0A= # The default relay_domains value is $mydestination.=0A= # =0A= # In addition to the above, the Postfix SMTP server by default accepts = mail=0A= # that Postfix is final destination for:=0A= # - destinations that match $inet_interfaces,=0A= # - destinations that match $mydestination=0A= # - destinations that match $virtual_maps.=0A= # These destinations do not need to be listed in $relay_domains.=0A= # =0A= # Specify a list of hosts or domains, /file/name patterns or type:name=0A= # lookup tables, separated by commas and/or whitespace. Continue=0A= # long lines by starting the next line with whitespace. A file name=0A= # is replaced by its contents; a type:name table is matched when a=0A= # (parent) domain appears as lookup key.=0A= #=0A= # NOTE: Postfix will not automatically forward mail for domains that=0A= # list this system as their primary or backup MX host. See the=0A= # permit_mx_backup restriction in the file sample-smtpd.cf.=0A= #=0A= #relay_domains =3D $mydestination=0A= =0A= # INTERNET OR INTRANET=0A= =0A= # The relayhost parameter specifies the default host to send mail to=0A= # when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When=0A= # no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination.=0A= #=0A= # On an intranet, specify the organizational domain name. If your=0A= # internal DNS uses no MX records, specify the name of the intranet=0A= # gateway host instead.=0A= #=0A= # In the case of SMTP, specify a domain, host, host:port, [host]:port,=0A= # [address] or [address]:port; the form [host] turns off MX lookups.=0A= #=0A= # If you're connected via UUCP, see also the default_transport parameter.=0A= #=0A= #relayhost =3D $mydomain=0A= #relayhost =3D gateway.my.domain=0A= #relayhost =3D uucphost=0A= relayhost =3D [smtp.schools.nsw.edu.au]=0A= =0A= # REJECTING UNKNOWN LOCAL USERS=0A= #=0A= # The local_recipient_maps parameter specifies optional lookup tables=0A= # with all names (not addresses) of users that are local with respect=0A= # to $mydestination and $inet_interfaces. If this parameter is=0A= # defined, then the SMTP server will reject mail for unknown local=0A= # users.=0A= #=0A= # If you use the default Postfix local delivery agent for local=0A= # delivery, uncomment the definition below.=0A= #=0A= # Beware: if the Postfix SMTP server runs chrooted, you may have to=0A= # copy the passwd (not shadow) database into the jail. This is=0A= # system dependent.=0A= # =0A= #local_recipient_maps =3D $alias_maps unix:passwd.byname=0A= =0A= # INPUT RATE CONTROL=0A= #=0A= # The in_flow_delay configuration parameter implements mail input=0A= # flow control. This feature is turned on by default, although it=0A= # still needs further development (it's disabled on SCO UNIX due=0A= # to an SCO bug).=0A= # =0A= # A Postfix process will pause for $in_flow_delay seconds before=0A= # accepting a new message, when the message arrival rate exceeds the=0A= # message delivery rate. With the default 50 SMTP server process=0A= # limit, this limits the mail inflow to 50 messages a second more=0A= # than the number of messages delivered per second.=0A= # =0A= # Specify 0 to disable the feature. Valid delays are 0..10.=0A= # =0A= #in_flow_delay =3D 1s=0A= =0A= # ADDRESS REWRITING=0A= #=0A= # Insert text from sample-rewrite.cf if you need to do address=0A= # masquerading.=0A= #=0A= # Insert text from sample-canonical.cf if you need to do address=0A= # rewriting, or if you need username->Firstname.Lastname mapping.=0A= =0A= # ADDRESS REDIRECTION (VIRTUAL DOMAIN)=0A= #=0A= # Insert text from sample-virtual.cf if you need virtual domain support.=0A= =0A= # "USER HAS MOVED" BOUNCE MESSAGES=0A= #=0A= # Insert text from sample-relocated.cf if you need "user has moved"=0A= # style bounce messages. Alternatively, you can bounce recipients=0A= # with an SMTP server access table. See sample-smtpd.cf.=0A= =0A= # TRANSPORT MAP=0A= #=0A= # Insert text from sample-transport.cf if you need explicit routing.=0A= =0A= # ALIAS DATABASE=0A= #=0A= # The alias_maps parameter specifies the list of alias databases used=0A= # by the local delivery agent. The default list is system dependent.=0A= # On systems with NIS, the default is to search the local alias=0A= # database, then the NIS alias database. See aliases(5) for syntax=0A= # details.=0A= # =0A= # If you change the alias database, run "postalias /etc/aliases" (or=0A= # wherever your system stores the mail alias file), or simply run=0A= # "newaliases" to build the necessary DBM or DB file.=0A= #=0A= # It will take a minute or so before changes become visible. Use=0A= # "postfix reload" to eliminate the delay.=0A= #=0A= #alias_maps =3D dbm:/etc/aliases=0A= alias_maps =3D hash:/etc/postfix/aliases=0A= #alias_maps =3D hash:/etc/aliases, nis:mail.aliases=0A= #alias_maps =3D netinfo:/aliases=0A= =0A= # The alias_database parameter specifies the alias database(s) that=0A= # are built with "newaliases" or "sendmail -bi". This is a separate=0A= # configuration parameter, because alias_maps (see above) may specify=0A= # tables that are not necessarily all under control by Postfix.=0A= #=0A= #alias_database =3D dbm:/etc/aliases=0A= #alias_database =3D dbm:/etc/mail/aliases=0A= #alias_database =3D hash:/etc/aliases=0A= #alias_database =3D hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/opt/majordomo/aliases=0A= =0A= # ADDRESS EXTENSIONS (e.g., user+foo)=0A= #=0A= # The recipient_delimiter parameter specifies the separator between=0A= # user names and address extensions (user+foo). See canonical(5),=0A= # local(8), relocated(5) and virtual(5) for the effects this has on=0A= # aliases, canonical, virtual, relocated and .forward file lookups.=0A= # Basically, the software tries user+foo and .forward+foo before=0A= # trying user and .forward.=0A= #=0A= #recipient_delimiter =3D +=0A= =0A= # DELIVERY TO MAILBOX=0A= #=0A= # The home_mailbox parameter specifies the optional pathname of a=0A= # mailbox file relative to a user's home directory. The default=0A= # mailbox file is /var/spool/mail/user or /var/mail/user. Specify=0A= # "Maildir/" for qmail-style delivery (the / is required).=0A= #=0A= #home_mailbox =3D Mailbox=0A= #home_mailbox =3D Maildir/=0A= =0A= # The mail_spool_directory parameter specifies the directory where=0A= # UNIX-style mailboxes are kept. The default setting depends on the=0A= # system type.=0A= #=0A= #mail_spool_directory =3D /var/mail=0A= #mail_spool_directory =3D /var/spool/mail=0A= =0A= # The mailbox_command parameter specifies the optional external=0A= # command to use instead of mailbox delivery. The command is run as=0A= # the recipient with proper HOME, SHELL and LOGNAME environment settings.=0A= # Exception: delivery for root is done as $default_user.=0A= #=0A= # Other environment variables of interest: USER (recipient username),=0A= # EXTENSION (address extension), DOMAIN (domain part of address),=0A= # and LOCAL (the address localpart).=0A= #=0A= # Unlike other Postfix configuration parameters, the mailbox_command=0A= # parameter is not subjected to $parameter substitutions. This is to=0A= # make it easier to specify shell syntax (see example below).=0A= #=0A= # Avoid shell meta characters because they will force Postfix to run=0A= # an expensive shell process. Procmail alone is expensive enough.=0A= #=0A= # IF YOU USE THIS TO DELIVER MAIL SYSTEM-WIDE, YOU MUST SET UP AN=0A= # ALIAS THAT FORWARDS MAIL FOR ROOT TO A REAL USER.=0A= #=0A= #mailbox_command =3D /some/where/procmail=0A= #mailbox_command =3D /some/where/procmail -a "$EXTENSION"=0A= =0A= # The mailbox_transport specifies the optional transport in master.cf=0A= # to use after processing aliases and .forward files. This parameter=0A= # has precedence over the mailbox_command, fallback_transport and=0A= # luser_relay parameters.=0A= #=0A= # Specify a string of the form transport:nexthop, where transport is=0A= # the name of a mail delivery transport defined in master.cf. The=0A= # :nexthop part is optional. For more details see the sample transport=0A= # configuration file.=0A= #=0A= #mailbox_transport =3D lmtp:unix:/file/name=0A= #mailbox_transport =3D cyrus=0A= =0A= # The fallback_transport specifies the optional transport in master.cf=0A= # to use for recipients that are not found in the UNIX passwd database.=0A= # This parameter has precedence over the luser_relay parameter.=0A= #=0A= # Specify a string of the form transport:nexthop, where transport is=0A= # the name of a mail delivery transport defined in master.cf. The=0A= # :nexthop part is optional. For more details see the sample transport=0A= # configuration file.=0A= #=0A= #fallback_transport =3D lmtp:unix:/file/name=0A= #fallback_transport =3D cyrus=0A= #fallback_transport =3D=0A= =0A= # The luser_relay parameter specifies an optional destination address=0A= # for unknown recipients. By default, mail for unknown local recipients=0A= # is bounced.=0A= #=0A= # The following expansions are done on luser_relay: $user (recipient=0A= # username), $shell (recipient shell), $home (recipient home directory),=0A= # $recipient (full recipient address), $extension (recipient address=0A= # extension), $domain (recipient domain), $local (entire recipient=0A= # localpart), $recipient_delimiter. Specify ${name?value} or=0A= # ${name:value} to expand value only when $name does (does not) exist.=0A= #=0A= # luser_relay works only for the default Postfix local delivery agent.=0A= #=0A= #luser_relay =3D $user@other.host=0A= #luser_relay =3D $local@other.host=0A= #luser_relay =3D admin+$local=0A= =0A= # JUNK MAIL CONTROLS=0A= # =0A= # The controls listed here are only a very small subset. See the file=0A= # sample-smtpd.cf for an elaborate list of anti-UCE controls.=0A= =0A= # The header_checks parameter specifies an optional table with patterns=0A= # that each logical message header is matched against, including=0A= # headers that span multiple physical lines. Patterns are matched=0A= # in the specified order, and the search stops upon the first match.=0A= # When a pattern matches, what happens next depends on the associated=0A= # action that is specified in the right-hand side of the table:=0A= #=0A= # REJECT the entire message is rejected.=0A= # REJECT text.... The text is sent to the originator.=0A= # IGNORE the header line is silently discarded.=0A= # WARN the header is logged (not rejected) with a warning message.=0A= # WARN text... as above, and the text is logged, too.=0A= #=0A= # These patterns do not apply to MIME headers in the message body.=0A= #=0A= # See also the body_checks example in the sample-filter.cf file.=0A= #=0A= #header_checks =3D regexp:/etc/postfix/header_checks=0A= =0A= # FAST ETRN SERVICE=0A= #=0A= # Postfix maintains per-destination logfiles with information about=0A= # deferred mail, so that mail can be flushed quickly with the SMTP=0A= # "ETRN domain.tld" command, or by executing "sendmail -qRdomain.tld".=0A= # =0A= # By default, Postfix maintains deferred mail logfile information=0A= # only for destinations that Postfix is willing to relay to (as=0A= # specified in the relay_domains parameter). For other destinations,=0A= # Postfix attempts to deliver ALL queued mail after receiving the=0A= # SMTP "ETRN domain.tld" command, or after execution of "sendmail=0A= # -qRdomain.tld". This can be slow when a lot of mail is queued.=0A= # =0A= # The fast_flush_domains parameter controls what destinations are=0A= # eligible for this "fast ETRN/sendmail -qR" service.=0A= # =0A= #fast_flush_domains =3D $relay_domains=0A= #fast_flush_domains =3D=0A= =0A= # SHOW SOFTWARE VERSION OR NOT=0A= #=0A= # The smtpd_banner parameter specifies the text that follows the 220=0A= # code in the SMTP server's greeting banner. Some people like to see=0A= # the mail version advertised. By default, Postfix shows no version.=0A= #=0A= # You MUST specify $myhostname at the start of the text. That is an=0A= # RFC requirement. Postfix itself does not care.=0A= #=0A= #smtpd_banner =3D $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name=0A= #smtpd_banner =3D $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name ($mail_version)=0A= =0A= # PARALLEL DELIVERY TO THE SAME DESTINATION=0A= #=0A= # How many parallel deliveries to the same user or domain? With local=0A= # delivery, it does not make sense to do massively parallel delivery=0A= # to the same user, because mailbox updates must happen sequentially,=0A= # and expensive pipelines in .forward files can cause disasters when=0A= # too many are run at the same time. With SMTP deliveries, 10=0A= # simultaneous connections to the same domain could be sufficient to=0A= # raise eyebrows.=0A= # =0A= # Each message delivery transport has its = XXX_destination_concurrency_limit=0A= # parameter. The default is $default_destination_concurrency_limit for=0A= # most delivery transports. For the local delivery agent the default is = 2.=0A= =0A= #local_destination_concurrency_limit =3D 2=0A= #default_destination_concurrency_limit =3D 10=0A= =0A= # DEBUGGING CONTROL=0A= #=0A= # The debug_peer_level parameter specifies the increment in verbose=0A= # logging level when an SMTP client or server host name or address=0A= # matches a pattern in the debug_peer_list parameter.=0A= #=0A= debug_peer_level =3D 2=0A= =0A= # The debug_peer_list parameter specifies an optional list of domain=0A= # or network patterns, /file/name patterns or type:name tables. When=0A= # an SMTP client or server host name or address matches a pattern,=0A= # increase the verbose logging level by the amount specified in the=0A= # debug_peer_level parameter.=0A= #=0A= #debug_peer_list =3D 127.0.0.1=0A= #debug_peer_list =3D some.domain=0A= =0A= # The debugger_command specifies the external command that is executed=0A= # when a Postfix daemon program is run with the -D option.=0A= #=0A= # Use "command .. & sleep 5" so that the debugger can attach before=0A= # the process marches on. If you use an X-based debugger, be sure to=0A= # set up your XAUTHORITY environment variable before starting Postfix.=0A= #=0A= debugger_command =3D=0A= PATH=3D/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin=0A= xxgdb $daemon_directory/$process_name $process_id & sleep 5=0A= =0A= # INSTALL-TIME CONFIGURATION INFORMATION=0A= #=0A= # The following parameters are used when installing a new Postfix = version.=0A= # =0A= # sendmail_path: The full pathname of the Postfix sendmail command.=0A= # This is the Sendmail-compatible mail posting interface.=0A= # =0A= sendmail_path =3D /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix=0A= =0A= # newaliases_path: The full pathname of the Postfix newaliases command.=0A= # This is the Sendmail-compatible command to build alias databases.=0A= #=0A= newaliases_path =3D /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix=0A= =0A= # mailq_path: The full pathname of the Postfix mailq command. This=0A= # is the Sendmail-compatible mail queue listing command.=0A= # =0A= mailq_path =3D /usr/bin/mailq.postfix=0A= =0A= # setgid_group: The group for mail submission and queue management=0A= # commands. This must be a group name with a numerical group ID that=0A= # is not shared with other accounts, not even with the Postfix account.=0A= #=0A= setgid_group =3D postdrop=0A= =0A= # manpage_directory: The location of the Postfix on-line manual pages.=0A= #=0A= manpage_directory =3D /usr/share/man=0A= =0A= # sample_directory: The location of the Postfix sample configuration = files.=0A= #=0A= sample_directory =3D /usr/share/doc/postfix-1.1.11/samples=0A= =0A= # readme_directory: The location of the Postfix README files.=0A= #=0A= readme_directory =3D /usr/share/doc/postfix-1.1.11/README_FILES=0A= alias_database =3D hash:/etc/postfix/aliases=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C29476.F67EC4B0-- From Graeme.Patterson@det.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 26 06:21:05 2002 Received: from itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.144]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAPMKdtr012191 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 06:21:05 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp1.central.det.win (itfsmtp1.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.31]) by itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAPMM0gg015370; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:22:00 +1100 (EST) Received: from itfexch19.central.det.win (Not Verified[153.107.9.29]) by itfsmtp1.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:22:00 +1100 Received: by itfexch19.central.det.win with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4VJ6P06D>; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:22:00 +1100 Message-ID: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A03277523829@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> From: "Patterson, Graeme" To: Parkes High School , lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: RE: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 26 06:22:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:21:47 +1100 I set up a pop server a couple of years ago. It could mail out but could not receive mail. DET did not support email relay. We just used it for internal email within the computer labs. Same box also used as a samba server / domain controller before our school got a 'real' NT server. Questions:- What will happen to your accounts when the teachers/students get their ITD/ISP accounts next year? Is there a current version of samba? Does it support login/connections to XP pro? I ask because I believe samba (3 years ago) did not support encrypted passwords. XP pro = NT workstation? and NT workststion encrypted login was incompatible with old smba. I've mucked around with Linux since mid 90s. Started with Walnut Creek's Slackware. Mostly RH since then. Disappointed with the equation editor in the office wordprocessor. Has it improved in recent releases? cheers, Graeme -----Original Message----- From: Parkes High School [mailto:parkeshs@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Mon 25/11/2002 11:36 AM To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Cc: Subject: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix Setting up an internal mail system This was set up on a Red Hat 8 machine using postfix as the smtp server and cucipop as the pop server. DET has assigned my school Parkes High School the hostname parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au I gave the linux machine the name mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au DET reserves a number 21 for mail servers so I gave it an IP address of 10.12.217.21 (10.12.217.21 is reserved for a proxy server) Postfix was a part of a default Red Hat 8.0 server install but it always pays to check on the packages that are being installed from the word go so make sure you check that it is installed. Also at this time it is work ensuring that the ftp server package vsFTPD is installed so you can ftp files to the linux machine. Cucipop can be obtained from: http://www.vergenet.net/linux/cucipop/ cucipop is pretty simple and runs without fiddling but postfix was another matter. With help from this list I configured Postfix to send mail internall around our school and with some further configuring got ITD to enable relaying of mail to and from outside the school. This took a little more fiddling with the main.cf file. Also if you want to be able to send and receive on your account to the outside world you need to contact ITD and ask them to create an MX record for you. The initial person you talk to on the ITD help deks will probably not me able to do this for you but they will log your call, give you a job number and someone will eventuall get back to you. Here is a direct number you might try: 02 9942 9641 here are the key entried you need to make in the main.cf file: /etc/postfix/main.cf these are my setinga so you will need to alter them to suit your own situation. myhostname = mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au mydomain = parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au myorigin = $mydomain inet interfaces = all mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain mynetworks = 10.12.217.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 relayhost = [smtp.schools.nsw.edu.au]. Many thanks to various members of this list - especially Andrew Dorrell without whose help I would have floundered utterly. I attach a copy of my postfix main.cf Peter Hughes Parkes HS From lias@draxsen.com Tue Nov 26 07:20:58 2002 Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAPNKgtr013046 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 07:20:58 +0800 Received: from neo.draxsen.com (ppp1096.nsw.padsl.internode.on.net [150.101.198.71]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gAPNM7p5007225; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:52:08 +1030 (CST) Received: (from apache@localhost) by neo.draxsen.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gAPNM7s25465; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:22:07 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: neo.draxsen.com: apache set sender to lias@draxsen.com using -f Received: from 192.168.1.201 ( [192.168.1.201]) as user fil@localhost by server with HTTP; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:22:07 +1100 Message-ID: <1038266527.3de2b09f4e7b2@server> From: Phil Scarratt To: "Patterson, Graeme" Cc: Parkes High School , lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: RE: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix References: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A03277523829@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> In-Reply-To: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A03277523829@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.1.201 Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 26 07:21:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:22:07 +1100 The current version of Samba is 2.2.7 (as of the 20th of Nov). I have no problem with NT logins using a Linux (RH7.3) box as the PDC. XP should be not problem but cannot confirm as I have not tried it myself - certainly Windows 2000 is no problem at all. Fil Quoting "Patterson, Graeme" : > I set up a pop server a couple of years ago. It could mail out but could not > receive mail. DET did not support email relay. We just used it for internal > email within the computer labs. Same box also used as a samba server / domain > controller before our school got a 'real' NT server. > Questions:- > What will happen to your accounts when the teachers/students get their > ITD/ISP accounts next year? > Is there a current version of samba? Does it support login/connections to XP > pro? I ask because I believe samba (3 years ago) did not support encrypted > passwords. XP pro = NT workstation? and NT workststion encrypted login was > incompatible with old smba. > > I've mucked around with Linux since mid 90s. Started with Walnut Creek's > Slackware. Mostly RH since then. Disappointed with the equation editor in > the office wordprocessor. Has it improved in recent releases? > > cheers, > Graeme > > -----Original Message----- > From: Parkes High School [mailto:parkeshs@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Mon 25/11/2002 11:36 AM > To: lias@lists.linux.org.au > Cc: > Subject: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix > > > > Setting up an internal mail system > > > > This was set up on a Red Hat 8 machine using postfix as the smtp server and > cucipop as the pop server. > > DET has assigned my school Parkes High School the hostname > parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au > > I gave the linux machine the name mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au > > > > DET reserves a number 21 for mail servers so I gave it an IP address of > 10.12.217.21 > > > > (10.12.217.21 is reserved for a proxy server) > > > > Postfix was a part of a default Red Hat 8.0 server install but it always pays > to check on the packages that are being installed from the word go so make > sure you check that it is installed. > > > > Also at this time it is work ensuring that the ftp server package vsFTPD is > installed so you can ftp files to the linux machine. > > > > Cucipop can be obtained from: > > http://www.vergenet.net/linux/cucipop/ > > > > cucipop is pretty simple and runs without fiddling but postfix was another > matter. > > With help from this list I configured Postfix to send mail internall around > our school and with some further configuring got ITD to enable relaying of > mail to and from outside the school. This took a little more fiddling with > the main.cf file. > > > > Also if you want to be able to send and receive on your account to the > outside world you need to contact ITD and ask them to create an MX record for > you. The initial person you talk to on the ITD help deks will probably not > me able to do this for you but they will log your call, give you a job number > and someone will eventuall get back to you. > > > > Here is a direct number you might try: > > 02 9942 9641 > > > > here are the key entried you need to make in the main.cf file: > > > > /etc/postfix/main.cf > > > > these are my setinga so you will need to alter them to suit your own > situation. > > myhostname = mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au > > > > mydomain = parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au > > > > myorigin = $mydomain > > > > inet interfaces = all > > > > mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain > > > > mynetworks = 10.12.217.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 > > > > relayhost = [smtp.schools.nsw.edu.au]. > > > > Many thanks to various members of this list - especially Andrew Dorrell > without whose help I would have floundered utterly. > > > > I attach a copy of my postfix main.cf > > > > Peter Hughes > > Parkes HS > > _______________________________________________ > lias mailing list > lias@lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lias > -- Phil Scarratt IT Consultant 0403 531 271 From sbryan@olmc.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 26 07:29:46 2002 Received: from postoffice.remex.com.au (postoffice1.remex.com.au [203.41.10.200]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAPNTUtr013146 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 07:29:46 +0800 Received: from olmcpad1.remex.com.au (olmcpad1.remex.com.au [10.192.0.1]) by postoffice.remex.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAPNUtc01197; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:30:55 +1100 Received: from gatekeeper.olmc.nsw.edu.au ([10.192.0.15]) by olmcpad1.remex.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAPNUpp14504; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:30:51 +1100 Received: from simon ([10.192.1.14]) by gatekeeper.olmc.nsw.edu.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAQKSEG29967; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:28:14 -1000 From: "Simon Bryan" To: "Patterson, Graeme" , "Parkes High School" , Subject: RE: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A03277523829@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by digital.linux.org.au id gAPNTUtr013146 Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 26 07:30:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:30:59 +1100 > Is there a current version of samba? Yes see http://au1.samba.org/samba/samba.html Does it support login/connections to XP pro? I ask because I believe samba (3 > years ago) did not support encrypted passwords. XP pro = NT > workstation? and NT workststion encrypted login was incompatible > with old smba. Samba has long had the ability to encrypt passwords and participate in domain security. AFAIK it cannot yet emualte a W2K server, but that is coming. > I've mucked around with Linux since mid 90s. Started with Walnut > Creek's Slackware. Mostly RH since then. Disappointed with the > equation editor in the office wordprocessor. Has it improved in > recent releases? Which Office package? there are several. The flavour of the month is Star Office 6 also known as Open Office 1.0.1 (the GPL version - identical except no database as that is not part of the package, comes from Adabas and a smaller clip art gallery.) This is very recent so you may want to have a look. http://www.openoffice.org/ From lias@draxsen.com Tue Nov 26 09:03:44 2002 Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAQ13Mtr013994 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:03:44 +0800 Received: from neo.draxsen.com (ppp1096.nsw.padsl.internode.on.net [150.101.198.71]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gAQ14np5034508 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 11:34:50 +1030 (CST) Received: (from apache@localhost) by neo.draxsen.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gAQ14nm25778 for lias@lists.linux.org.au; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:04:49 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: neo.draxsen.com: apache set sender to lias@draxsen.com using -f Received: from 192.168.1.201 ( [192.168.1.201]) as user fil@localhost by server with HTTP; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:04:49 +1100 Message-ID: <1038272689.3de2c8b172f01@server> From: Phil Scarratt To: LIAS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.1.201 Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 26 09:04:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:04:49 +1100 Some information I found in the UNofficial Samba HowTo (http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba.html) on XP Pro clients. Extract from there follows: ############## EXTRACT ############## Windows XP Clients To force Windows XP Professional clients to accept Samba as a PDC, use the built-in XP Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) and locate the Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\Security Options branch. Make sure to disable the following policies: Domain Member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always) Domain Member: Digitally sign secure channel data (when possible) Alternately, you can make the following change to the registry: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters] "requiresignorseal"=dword:00000000 "signsecurechannel"=dword:00000000 To disable annoying Event Viewer notifications about "Automatic certificate enrollment for local system failed to contact the active directory" every eight hours, locate the Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Public Key Policies branch and select "Do not enroll certificates automatically" under Autoenrollment Settings. Note that this policy won't be available until after the XP machine has joined the domain. If you'd like to use Roaming Profiles with Windows XP clients that have Service Pack 1 or later installed, use the built-in XP Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) and locate the Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\User Profiles branch. This is described in Microsoft's Technet Q327462. Make sure to enable the following policy: Do not check for user ownership of Roaming Profile Folders Alternately, you can make the following change to the registry: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System] "CompatibleRUPSecurity"=dword:00000001 Alternately as well, you can make the following addition to your smb.conf file: [profile] profile acls = yes Windows XP Home Edition does not support logging into a Primary Domain Controller, so you'll have to use Windows XP Professional instead. ############## END EXTRACT ############## -- Phil Scarratt IT Consultant 0403 531 271 From jsimovic@rydesc-h.schools.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 26 10:55:53 2002 Received: from itumx1.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx1.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.16]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAQ2tatr015067 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:55:52 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp1.central.det.win (itfsmtp1.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.31]) by itumx1.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAQ2v0xU125853 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:57:00 +1100 (EST) Received: from msdcsrv1.rsc.cxm (Not Verified[10.14.141.21]) by itfsmtp1.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:57:00 +1100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C294F8.3C49C324" Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Hi All. Thread-Index: AcKU+DxFk6c4q2jeSmeGzDZVsYOIBw== From: "John Simovic" To: Subject: [Lias] Hi All. Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 26 10:56:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:02:20 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C294F8.3C49C324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having a look at Lycoris reminds me very much of Caldera. If this is similar does anybody know whether Caldera rpms would work on Lycoris? It seems there are very little server daemons available for lycoris and if I could use OpenDesktop rms's then maybe LTSP would work with Lycoris? 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Having a look at Lycoris = reminds me very much of Caldera. If this is similar does anybody know whether = Caldera rpms would work on Lycoris? It seems there are very little server daemons available for lycoris and if I could use OpenDesktop rms’s then maybe LTSP would work with Lycoris? Any = ideas?

=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C294F8.3C49C324-- From leon@cyberknights.com.au Tue Nov 26 11:11:48 2002 Received: from home.dy.cyberknights.com.au (baboon199.arach.net.au [203.34.17.199]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAQ3BTtr015252 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 11:11:48 +0800 Received: from newleon (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by home.dy.cyberknights.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1A213D1D for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 22:14:27 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Leon Brooks Organization: CyberKnights - modern tools, traditional dedication To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] Caldera RPMs on Lycoris User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200211261114.27690.leon@cyberknights.com.au> Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 26 11:12:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 11:14:27 +0800 On Tuesday 26 November 2002 11:02 am, John Simovic wrote: > if I could use OpenDesktop rms's then maybe LTSP would work with Lycoris? Probaly safer to rebuild from a source RPM and use that. Expect dependencies to be a slight PITA first time around. Cheers; Leon -- http://www.cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools, traditional dedication http://slpwa.linux.org.au/ Member, Linux Professionals West Aus http://conf.linux.org.au/ THE Australian Linux Technical Conf: 22-25 January 2003, Perth: be there! From lesbell@lesbell.com.au Tue Nov 26 13:29:42 2002 Received: from bifrost.lesbell.com.au (bifrost.lesbell.com.au [203.28.234.31]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAQ5TKtr017001 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:29:41 +0800 Subject: Re: [Lias] Hi All. To: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: From: "Les Bell" X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Bifrost/Les Bell and Associates Pty Ltd(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 26/11/2002 04:32:11 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 26 13:30:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:19:48 +1100 "John Simovic" wrote: >> Having a look at Lycoris reminds me very much of Caldera. If this is similar does anybody know whether Caldera rpms would work on Lycoris? << Lycoris branched from Caldera in the 2.4 days, well before Caldera 3.1. I wouldn't *expect* Caldera RPM's to work, though it's worth a try. My preferred approach to fixing the problems would be to grab the source RPM's and rebuild them - only minor editing of the .spec file should be required. Best, --- Les Bell, CISSP [http://www.lesbell.com.au] From dsavill@excido.com Tue Nov 26 13:54:35 2002 Received: from saruman.excido.com (ppp216.adsl89.pacific.net.au [202.7.89.216]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAQ5sJtr017491 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:54:35 +0800 Received: by saruman.excido.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id 38C5A151D; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:59:54 +1100 (EST) To: leon@cyberknights.com.au, lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] Caldera RPMs on Lycoris From: "David Savill" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [Lias] Caldera RPMs on Lycoris Message-Id: <20021126055954.38C5A151D@saruman.excido.com> Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 26 13:55:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:59:54 +1100 (EST) Yeah... Lycoris puts some stuff in strange places Redhat RPMS generally work ok.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Leon Brooks To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Received: 26/11/2002 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Lias] Caldera RPMs on Lycoris > On Tuesday 26 November 2002 11:02 am, John Simovic wrote: > > if I could use OpenDesktop rms's then maybe LTSP would work with Lycoris? > > Probaly safer to rebuild from a source RPM and use that. Expect dependencies > to be a slight PITA first time around. > > Cheers; Leon > > -- > http://www.cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools, traditional dedication > http://slpwa.linux.org.au/ Member, Linux Professionals West Aus > http://conf.linux.org.au/ THE Australian Linux Technical Conf: > 22-25 January 2003, Perth: be there! > > _______________________________________________ > lias mailing list > lias@lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lias > From sbryan@olmc.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 26 18:19:51 2002 Received: from mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au [210.49.20.136]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAQAJ9tr020286 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:19:50 +0800 Received: from blondie (c18232.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.28.217.80]) by mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id gAQAKec29316; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 21:20:40 +1100 Received: from simon ([192.168.99.11]) by blondie (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAQKFar13396; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 20:15:37 GMT From: "Simon Bryan" To: "Phil Scarratt" , "LIAS" Subject: RE: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1038272689.3de2c8b172f01@server> Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 26 18:20:02 2002 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 21:20:39 +1100 I just read that page, and at last setting Samba up as a PDC looks like I could achieve it! Good reference. Thanks > -----Original Message----- > From: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au > [mailto:lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au]On Behalf Of Phil Scarratt > Sent: Tue, 26. November 2002 12:05 PM > To: LIAS > Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC > > > Some information I found in the UNofficial Samba HowTo > (http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba.html) on XP Pro clients. > > Extract from there follows: > > ############## EXTRACT ############## > > Windows XP Clients > > To force Windows XP Professional clients to accept Samba as a PDC, use the > built-in XP Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) and locate the Computer > Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local > Policies\Security Options > branch. Make sure to disable the following policies: > > Domain Member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always) > Domain Member: Digitally sign secure channel data (when possible) > > Alternately, you can make the following change to the registry: > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters] > "requiresignorseal"=dword:00000000 > "signsecurechannel"=dword:00000000 > > To disable annoying Event Viewer notifications about "Automatic > certificate > enrollment for local system failed to contact the active > directory" every eight > hours, locate the Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security > Settings\Public Key Policies branch and select "Do not enroll certificates > automatically" under Autoenrollment Settings. Note that this > policy won't be > available until after the XP machine has joined the domain. > > If you'd like to use Roaming Profiles with Windows XP clients > that have Service > Pack 1 or later installed, use the built-in XP Group Policy > editor (gpedit.msc) > and locate the Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\User > Profiles branch. This is described in Microsoft's Technet > Q327462. Make sure to > enable the following policy: > > Do not check for user ownership of Roaming Profile Folders > > Alternately, you can make the following change to the registry: > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System] > "CompatibleRUPSecurity"=dword:00000001 > > Alternately as well, you can make the following addition to your > smb.conf file: > > [profile] > profile acls = yes > > Windows XP Home Edition does not support logging into a Primary Domain > Controller, so you'll have to use Windows XP Professional instead. > > ############## END EXTRACT ############## > > -- > Phil Scarratt > IT Consultant > 0403 531 271 > > _______________________________________________ > lias mailing list > lias@lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lias From craigw@blue.net.au Tue Nov 26 20:05:25 2002 Received: from merlot.ozdial.net.au (merlot.ozdial.net.au [203.22.251.63]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAQC58tr021268 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 20:05:25 +0800 Received: from dialup-235.4.194.203.acc02-kent-syd.comindico.com.au (dialup-235.4.194.203.acc02-kent-syd.comindico.com.au [203.194.4.235]) by merlot.ozdial.net.au (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id gAQBsHR26055; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 22:54:18 +1100 Subject: Re: [Lias] RE: Linux courses From: Craig Warner To: Alan Byrne Cc: linux list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Message-Id: <1038351941.9168.1.camel@linux> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by digital.linux.org.au id gAQC58tr021268 Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue Nov 26 20:06:01 2002 X-Original-Date: 27 Nov 2002 10:05:39 +1100 Granville TAFE runs introduction to Linus, programming in Linux, LPI 1 and 2 courses See www.slug.org.au for details On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 14:53, Alan Byrne wrote: > Oh, and I live in Sydney, around the Parramatta area. > > Cheers, > > Alan > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan.byrne@burnsie.com.au] > Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 1:27 PM > To: linux list > Subject: Linux courses > > Hello everybody, > > I’ve been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it. > But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a very strong > windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely lost. > > My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I > want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and > use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the > basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? I’ > m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online > curriculum, instructor led would be best. > > Thanks in advance, > > Alan Byrne From Graeme.Patterson@det.nsw.edu.au Thu Nov 28 06:16:32 2002 Received: from itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.144]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gARMGFtr007156 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 06:16:31 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp2.central.det.win (itfsmtp2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.32]) by itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gARMHvgg504814 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:17:57 +1100 (EST) Received: from itfexch19.central.det.win (Not Verified[153.107.9.29]) by itfsmtp2.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:17:57 +1100 Received: by itfexch19.central.det.win with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4VJ6TLX2>; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:17:57 +1100 Message-ID: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A0327752382D@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> From: "Patterson, Graeme" To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: RE: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Nov 28 06:17:19 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:17:56 +1100 Thanks for the replies. Do I need to disable the policy "Send unencrypted password to conect to third-party SMB servers"? - Graeme -----Original Message----- From: Simon Bryan [mailto:sbryan@olmc.nsw.edu.au] Sent: Tue 26/11/2002 9:20 PM To: Phil Scarratt; LIAS Cc: Subject: RE: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC I just read that page, and at last setting Samba up as a PDC looks like I could achieve it! Good reference. Thanks > -----Original Message----- > From: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au > [mailto:lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au ]On Behalf Of Phil Scarratt > Sent: Tue, 26. November 2002 12:05 PM > To: LIAS > Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC > > > Some information I found in the UNofficial Samba HowTo > (http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba.html ) on XP Pro clients. > > Extract from there follows: > > ############## EXTRACT ############## > > Windows XP Clients > > To force Windows XP Professional clients to accept Samba as a PDC, use the > built-in XP Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) and locate the Computer > Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local > Policies\Security Options > branch. Make sure to disable the following policies: > > Domain Member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always) > Domain Member: Digitally sign secure channel data (when possible) > ---- snip ---- From lias@draxsen.com Thu Nov 28 06:53:51 2002 Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gARMrZtr007987 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 06:53:51 +0800 Received: from neo.draxsen.com (ppp573.nsw.padsl.internode.on.net [150.101.194.60]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gARMtKp5016587; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:25:21 +1030 (CST) Received: (from apache@localhost) by neo.draxsen.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gARMtJW30800; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:55:19 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: neo.draxsen.com: apache set sender to lias@draxsen.com using -f Received: from 192.168.1.201 ( [192.168.1.201]) as user fil@localhost by server with HTTP; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:55:18 +1100 Message-ID: <1038437718.3de54d56ac187@server> From: Phil Scarratt To: "Patterson, Graeme" Cc: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: RE: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC References: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A0327752382D@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> In-Reply-To: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A0327752382D@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.1.201 Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Nov 28 06:54:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:55:18 +1100 No shouldn't have to as long as your smb.conf file has the following directive set encrypt passwords = Yes Fil Quoting "Patterson, Graeme" : > Thanks for the replies. > > Do I need to disable the policy > "Send unencrypted password to conect to third-party SMB servers"? > > - Graeme > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Bryan [mailto:sbryan@olmc.nsw.edu.au] > Sent: Tue 26/11/2002 9:20 PM > To: Phil Scarratt; LIAS > Cc: > Subject: RE: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC > > > > I just read that page, and at last setting Samba up as a PDC looks like I > could achieve it! Good reference. Thanks > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au > > [mailto:lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au > ]On Behalf Of Phil Scarratt > > Sent: Tue, 26. November 2002 12:05 PM > > To: LIAS > > Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC > > > > > > Some information I found in the UNofficial Samba HowTo > > (http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba.html > ) on XP Pro clients. > > > > Extract from there follows: > > > > ############## EXTRACT ############## > > > > Windows XP Clients > > > > To force Windows XP Professional clients to accept Samba as a PDC, use the > > > built-in XP Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) and locate the Computer > > Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local > > Policies\Security Options > > branch. Make sure to disable the following policies: > > > > Domain Member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always) > > Domain Member: Digitally sign secure channel data (when possible) > > > ---- snip ---- > > _______________________________________________ > lias mailing list > lias@lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lias > -- Phil Scarratt IT Consultant 0403 531 271 From parkeshs@ozemail.com.au Thu Nov 28 09:15:34 2002 Received: from itumx1.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx1.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.16]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAS1FGtr009324 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:15:34 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp1.central.det.win (itfsmtp1.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.31]) by itumx1.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAS1GvxU073938 for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 12:16:57 +1100 (EST) Received: from librarian (Not Verified[10.12.217.74]) by itfsmtp1.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 12:16:56 +1100 From: "Parkes High School" To: Message-ID: <003401c2967b$7f12d680$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C296D7.B2834E80" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: [Lias] Squirrel Mail and RH 8.0 Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu Nov 28 09:16:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 12:14:23 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C296D7.B2834E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone tried squirrel mail on RH 8 and had success? Peter ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C296D7.B2834E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Has anyone tried squirrel mail on RH 8 and had success?

 

 

Peter

------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C296D7.B2834E80-- From parkeshs@ozemail.com.au Sat Nov 30 06:44:39 2002 Received: from itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (itumx2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.41.144]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gATMi7tr002345 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 06:44:39 +0800 Received: from itfsmtp2.central.det.win (itfsmtp2.det.nsw.edu.au [153.107.8.32]) by itumx2.dmzs.det.nsw.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gATMk9gg429376; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:46:09 +1100 (EST) Received: from librarian (Not Verified[10.12.217.74]) by itfsmtp2.central.det.win with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:46:09 +1100 From: "Parkes High School" To: "Lesley Reay" , Message-ID: <005401c297f8$c1a7d300$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01C29854.F5184B00" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Subject: [Lias] migrating users and their passwords Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Nov 30 06:45:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:43:37 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C29854.F5184B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I set up a mail server on a RH 8 box using postfix and cucipop. All worked well but the webmail interface I bought from www.adjeweb.com will not work with RH 8.0. All is good with RH 7.0 however. My users are going to be pretty peeved if I have to get them to enter passwords again (they are getting sick of me always fiddling!) Can I somehow migrate them and their passwords from the RH 8.0 box to the RH 7.0? Peter Hughes Parkes High School ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C29854.F5184B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I set up a mail server on a RH 8 box using = postfix and cucipop.

 

All worked well but the webmail interface I = bought from www.adjeweb.com will not = work with RH 8.0.  All is good with RH 7.0  however.

 

 

My users are going to be pretty peeved if I = have to get them to enter passwords again (they are getting sick of me always = fiddling!)

Can I somehow migrate them and their passwords = from the RH 8.0 box to the RH 7.0?

 

Peter Hughes

Parkes High School

------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C29854.F5184B00-- From ken_yap@users.sourceforge.net Sat Nov 30 07:02:53 2002 Received: from mta03bw.bigpond.com (mta03bw.bigpond.com [139.134.6.86]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gATN2btr002565 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 07:02:53 +0800 Received: from ken.ken.com.au ([144.135.24.72]) by mta03bw.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mta03bw Jul 16 2002 22:47:55) with SMTP id H6D1FX00.4ND for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:04:45 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-136-69-59.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.136.69.59]) by bwmam02.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0n 17/14530179); 30 Nov 2002 09:04:45 Received: from ken.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ken.ken.com.au (Postfix on SuSE Linux 8.0 (i386)) with ESMTP id ADF403CEC for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 10:04:44 +1100 To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] migrating users and their passwords From: ken_yap@users.sourceforge.net In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:43:37 +1100. <005401c297f8$c1a7d300$4ad90c0a@librarian> Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Message-Flag: Linux : The choice of a GNU generation X-Face: bak'McMAD{%JrA$mQ(j_Ex_o?a/F8/Ntng*t2KX(NcfGalVs^Ke^C61:F Message-Id: <20021129230444.ADF403CEC@ken.ken.com.au> Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Nov 30 07:03:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 10:04:44 +1100 >I set up a mail server on a RH 8 box using postfix and cucipop. > >All worked well but the webmail interface I bought from www.adjeweb.com > will not work with RH 8.0. All is good with >RH 7.0 however. > >My users are going to be pretty peeved if I have to get them to enter >passwords again (they are getting sick of me always fiddling!) > >Can I somehow migrate them and their passwords from the RH 8.0 box to >the RH 7.0? Have you got MD5 passwords enabled in RH7.0? Also do you think you could turn off the annoying HTML mail? I'd like to apply an arc welder to the "genius" who thought up of HTML mail. It adds nothing of value. From andrew.dorrell@cisra.canon.com.au Sat Nov 30 21:11:11 2002 Received: from a.mx.canon.com.au (bergeron.cisra.com.au [203.12.172.124]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAUDAotr010150 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:11:10 +0800 Received: from ivory.research.canon.com.au (canonex.research.canon.com.au [203.12.172.254]) by a.mx.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A521CA8C21 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 13:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cisra.canon.com.au (zdzislaw.research.canon.com.au [10.11.1.147]) by ivory.research.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0195700 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 00:10:46 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3DE8B94C.2020107@cisra.canon.com.au> From: Andrew Dorrell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020508 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LIAS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010705000207080700010902" Subject: [Lias] DET server address setup for schools Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Nov 30 21:12:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 00:12:44 +1100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010705000207080700010902 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020104020201040203020602" --------------020104020201040203020602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been meaning to post this page for some time - a must for anyone wanting to setup servers within their school, lists all the recommended addresses and ports (the page is only visible from the schools WAN) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Schools - Proxy Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 23:46:34 +1100 From: The Dorrell Kids To: andrew.dorrell@cisra.canon.com.au http://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/internet/schools/ http://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/internet/schools/sc-main.htm --------------020104020201040203020602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been meaning to post this page for some time - a must for anyone wanting to setup servers within their school, lists all the recommended addresses and ports  (the page is only visible from the schools WAN)

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Schools - Proxy
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 23:46:34 +1100
From: The Dorrell Kids <jammy54au@yahoo.com>
To: andrew.dorrell@cisra.canon.com.au 


http://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/internet/schools/
http://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/internet/schools/sc-main.htm
--------------020104020201040203020602-- --------------010705000207080700010902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="sc-main.htm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="sc-main.htm" Schools - Proxy
 

Browser Configuration for School Clients

  • Browsers at schools must be configured with PAC files .

  • Browsers that cannot use PAC files should not be used.

  • The PAC file configuration for each school is:

    • http://pac.schools.nsw.edu.au/schools/<school_id>.pac (as from 15/10/1999)

  • Note: The old URL http://proxy.schools.nsw.edu.au/schools/<school_id>.pac is now obsolete and should be changed to the new URL.

  • The use of PAC files at schools with local proxies is also required.

RAS Users

  • Users using RAS into school pops should set the proxy settings for their dial up configuration to be
    http://pac.det.nsw.edu.au/det/itbproxy.pac

Proxy Servers at Schools

  • Schools with local proxy servers are required to set up the proxy server on this IP address:

    • 10.<School Specific>.<School Specific>.20

  • The proxy must be configured to chain up to proxyds.schools.nsw.edu.au on port 80.
    Set your proxy to answer client request on port 80.

  • The proxyds.schools.nsw.edu.au DNS entry should used in the configuration of your local proxy server. The use of an IP address is discouraged as the actual machine(s) that are referenced by this DNS entry may change without notice due to failures, maintenance etc.

  • When a proxy server is established at school ITB via the HelpDesk must be contacted so that the PAC files for the school can be modified to make them local proxy aware.

  • Do not change the proxy setting in your local clients to point to your proxy server. Leave the PAC file as is. When you advise the HelpDesk about the addition of your local proxy the PAC file for your school will be amended. The modified PAC file will direct requests to your proxy server. Should you suffer a failure of your proxy (or even need to maintain it) the PAC files will use the central proxy servers automatically.

Types of School (Local) Proxy Servers

To facilitate the most efficient creation of PAC files for school browsers the local proxies have been divided onto the following categories:

    1. All Requests - All browser requests are sent to the local proxy server.

    2. Not Local - All browser requests except for the local school 10 network to the local proxy.

    3. Internet Only - Only request destined for Internet sites are sent to the local proxy.


The selection of the above categories is at the schools discretion. Note there are restrictions on choice imposed by the type of local proxy selected.

The 'All Requests' and 'Not Local' selections can only be used with a proxy server that allows and has been configured to send requests to local school web servers and DET servers directly. That is requests for DET intranet servers are not passed to the central proxy servers.

Configuration of downstream SQUID proxy server for schools

The default configuration of squid proxy as a downstream proxy server causes it to try to go direct first then try to use ICP and finally use CERN to communicate to its parent. The result of this is EXTEMELY slow response for any external internet sites but excellent response from internal DET sites as these are accessible directly.
To overcome this problem you need to edit the squid.conf file in the following way.

Firstly, find the cache_peer tag and set it as follows:

cache_peer proxyds.schools.nsw.edu.au parent 80 3130 no-query no-digest

This will set the correct parent and proxy port and stop the use of ICP which is not supported in our network.

Secondly, find the never_direct tag and set it as follows:

#if you want to go direct for any domains setup an access control list like this
acl local-servers dstdomain .tafensw.edu.au .det.nsw.edu.au .schools.nsw.edu.au
#then specify an acl for everything else
acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0

#this double negative makes the proxy go direct for the sites in this acl
never_direct deny local-servers
#this makes everything else go via the parent
never_direct allow all

Now restart squid and everthing should be working properly.

IP Address Allocation at Schools

Each school has been allocated a single C class address in the 10 network range.
This address range has been broken up into a number of section for administrative ease.

These sections are the same for each school, due to the large number of schools that need to be dealt with.

The address ranges are:

1 - 10 Reserved by ITB Networks Branch for Communications Devices.

11 - 30 Reserved for Servers

31 - 254 Client PC's/Mac's

In the 1 - 10 Communications Range the allocation of IP's are:

1 - WAN Router

2 - 10 - Reserved for ITB Allocation

In the 11 - 30 Server Range the allocation of IP's are suggested:

11 - Free for Schools Use

12 - Free for Schools Use

13 - Free for Schools Use

14 - Free for Schools Use

15 - Free for Schools Use

16 - OASIS Server 1

17 - OASIS Server 2

18 - Reserved for ITB Allocation

19 - Reserved for ITB Allocation

20 - Local Proxy Server

21 - Reserved for Local Mail Server

22 - Reserved for ITB (d) Allocation

23 - Reserved for ITB (d) Allocation

24 - Reserved for ITB Allocation

25 - Free for Schools Use

26 - Free for Schools Use

27 - Free for Schools Use

28 - School Web Server 3

29 - School Web Server 2

30 - School Web Server 1

Where there is no server used on the address (ie no local Mail server) this address is reserved and shall not be used for any other purpose.

Where a single server is used for more than 1 function is it should be allocated multiple IP address' and each service answer on the appropriate address.

Click here to test the download speed.

Diagnostics of School Problems

When a school implements a proxy server it is important to allow access from the ITB network to this device on the following ports:

  • Port 80 (or the port the proxy is running on)

  • ICMP (ping type functions)

If access is not permitted then diagnosis of problems involving your proxy cannot be done and extended service disruptions may occur.

School Firewalls

Where a school implements a firewall the access as specified above is still required for the same reason.

Schools Web Server

FTP Access
Schools may use FTP to upload their web site to the schools web server by connecting to ftp.schools.nsw.edu.au with their school user name (ie: ajuga-s)

For full directions on publishing school web sites go to
http://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/webdev/learcent/welcome.htm


Ozemail Web Server
Schools may upload content to their OzEmail FTP accounts through two methods:

  1. Upload through the Netscape Browser Publish facility

  2. PUT files to the OzEmail service through any client you chose through direct FTP

With the direct FTP service you may perform most standard FTP functions with the exception of GETing files from the site.

Please note that this direct Client FTP service is only available to the OzEmail ftp server.
Last Updated: 6 February, 2002
--------------010705000207080700010902-- From leon@cyberknights.com.au Sat Nov 30 22:41:27 2002 Received: from home.dy.cyberknights.com.au (baboon199.arach.net.au [203.34.17.199]) by digital.linux.org.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id gAUEfBtr010764 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 22:41:27 +0800 Received: from newleon (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by home.dy.cyberknights.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5704513D4A for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:45:18 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Leon Brooks Organization: CyberKnights - modern tools, traditional dedication To: lias@lists.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [Lias] migrating users and their passwords User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <005401c297f8$c1a7d300$4ad90c0a@librarian> In-Reply-To: <005401c297f8$c1a7d300$4ad90c0a@librarian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200211302245.18083.leon@cyberknights.com.au> Sender: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au Errors-To: lias-admin@lists.linux.org.au X-BeenThere: lias@lists.linux.org.au X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Linux in Australian Schools List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Nov 30 22:42:01 2002 X-Original-Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 22:45:18 +0800 On Saturday 30 November 2002 06:43 am, Parkes High School wrote: > My users are going to be pretty peeved if I have to get them to enter > passwords again (they are getting sick of me always fiddling!) > Can I somehow migrate them and their passwords from the RH 8.0 box to > the RH 7.0? If RH7 uses the same password format, and adjeweb's software uses the system passwords and mailboxes, just copy them (user by user) from /etc/shadow on the old system to the same file on the new, and their mail from/to /var/spool/mail/$USERNAME If the s/w uses standard HTTP authentication instead, and you can find a .htpasswd file, then copying the passwords would be no trouble but I have no idea where there mail might be stored. Otherwise, sorry, would need to know lots more (and have more time) in order to be able to help you. Cheers; Leon -- http://www.cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools, traditional dedication http://slpwa.linux.org.au/ Member, Linux Professionals West Aus http://conf.linux.org.au/ THE Australian Linux Technical Conf: 22-25 January 2003, Perth: be there! From parkeshs at ozemail.com.au Sat Nov 2 11:59:01 2002 From: parkeshs at ozemail.com.au (Parkes High School) Date: Sat Nov 2 11:59:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] locked out of httpd Message-ID: <001401c28224$0e34a580$4ad90c0a@librarian> I have some more trouble! Sorry!! I'm running mandrake 9.0 on a machine and have got all the trouble with Postficx sorted out. Now I have added a web mail interface to our email - from http://www.adjeweb.com/ I have installed this OK on a mandrake 7.2 machine and am now trying it out on Mandrake 9.0 Everything goes OK until I give the thing a test by going to: 10.12.217.88/cgi-bin/WebMail/cgitest.cgi This should work but I get a message from Apache saying I don't have permission to access the file Apache error log confirms this - client rejected. These instructions from the supplier of the web mail pl file: log in as any non-root user with a cgi-bin directory (that can execute perl CGI scripts) I am logged in as a non root user and I have cgi-bin directory but maybe this user cannot execute perl CGI scripts. I have set permissions on the relevant directory correctly. Any ideas anyone? Peter Hughes (determined to persist with Linux!) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021102/c1ab3c8c/attachment.htm From leon at cyberknights.com.au Sat Nov 2 21:29:01 2002 From: leon at cyberknights.com.au (Leon Brooks) Date: Sat Nov 2 21:29:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] locked out of httpd In-Reply-To: <001401c28224$0e34a580$4ad90c0a@librarian> References: <001401c28224$0e34a580$4ad90c0a@librarian> Message-ID: <200211022143.06069.leon@cyberknights.com.au> On Saturday 02 November 2002 11:58 am, Parkes High School wrote: > client rejected This looks more like access control for the whole server blocking you (check /etc/hosts.allow and .deny, and any IP-address-based restrictions in Apache's config files) rather than any file permissions. Cheers; Leon -- http://www.cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools, traditional dedication http://slpwa.linux.org.au/ Member, Linux Professionals West Aus http://conf.linux.org.au/ THE Australian Linux Technical Conf: 22-25 January 2003, Perth: be there! From sbryan at olmc.nsw.edu.au Sun Nov 3 17:01:01 2002 From: sbryan at olmc.nsw.edu.au (Simon Bryan) Date: Sun Nov 3 17:01:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] locked out of httpd In-Reply-To: <001401c28224$0e34a580$4ad90c0a@librarian> Message-ID: What are the file permissions on the cgitest.cgi? -----Original Message----- From: lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au [mailto:lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au]On Behalf Of Parkes High School Sent: Sat, 2. November 2002 2:58 PM To: lias at lists.linux.org.au Subject: [Lias] locked out of httpd I have some more trouble! Sorry!! I'm running mandrake 9.0 on a machine and have got all the trouble with Postficx sorted out. Now I have added a web mail interface to our email - from http://www.adjeweb.com/ I have installed this OK on a mandrake 7.2 machine and am now trying it out on Mandrake 9.0 Everything goes OK until I give the thing a test by going to: 10.12.217.88/cgi-bin/WebMail/cgitest.cgi This should work but I get a message from Apache saying I don't have permission to access the file Apache error log confirms this - client rejected. These instructions from the supplier of the web mail pl file: log in as any non-root user with a cgi-bin directory (that can execute perl CGI scripts) I am logged in as a non root user and I have cgi-bin directory but maybe this user cannot execute perl CGI scripts. I have set permissions on the relevant directory correctly. Any ideas anyone? Peter Hughes (determined to persist with Linux!) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021103/84cf93f0/attachment.htm From alan at burnsie.com.au Mon Nov 4 06:19:01 2002 From: alan at burnsie.com.au (Alan Byrne) Date: Mon Nov 4 06:19:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Me, A linux noob In-Reply-To: <20021102222931.6702.31031.Mailman@digital> Message-ID: Hello all, I just joined the list, and I am a Linux newbie. I just started playing around with Red Hat 7.3. I find that the file browser in Gnome is very slow. I am running a AMD 1700+ with 512MB RAM, but the file browser takes about 1-2 seconds to load the next directory when I double click a folder. Is this normal? Regards, Alan Byrne From daive_ellis at yahoo.com Mon Nov 4 15:56:01 2002 From: daive_ellis at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?David=20Ellis?=) Date: Mon Nov 4 15:56:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Need some K12 LTSP CDs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021104075709.47165.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm after a set of K12 LTSP CDs. My normal connection www.everythinglinux.com.au doesn't have them yet, nor does LSL. Does someone have a set they can burn for me or know of somewhere I can get them. Happy to pay reasonable amount either way. David ===== David Ellis, IT Manager St George Christian School Hurstville, NSW. Australia "Look Around You - made by and for Jesus" http://careers.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Careers - 1,000's of jobs waiting online for you! From andrew.dorrell at cisra.canon.com.au Tue Nov 5 14:26:01 2002 From: andrew.dorrell at cisra.canon.com.au (Andrew Dorrell) Date: Tue Nov 5 14:26:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Re: postfix etc References: <000101c28488$841da830$4ad90c0a@librarian> Message-ID: <3DC764BD.6000700@cisra.canon.com.au> Parkes High School wrote: > Hi Andrew > > One thing that puzzles me is the difference between 127.0.0.1 and the IP > one gives a machine...say 10.12.217.88 well... you don't actually give the address to the machine, you give it to the interface. The address 127.0.0.1 refers what is called the "local loopback" interface. Whenever you want to connect specifically to the machine you are sitting at you can use it, and services that you do not want used by others can be configured to only accept connections from this address. This is how your postfix server was configured out of the box. Now, to talk TCP/IP on your network card you need to give that interface an address also - this is the 10.12.217.88 one. In fact you can add any number of "alias" addresses for this interface also... and I recommend doing that (see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/nag2/index.html if you have the time...). I assume Mandrake will give you a configuration tool for doing this... if you can't find one just add a few lines like the following in your /etc/rc.local: /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 /sbin/ifconfig eth0:1 ... In particular, DET asigns addresses in its DNS for proxy.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au web1.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au etc to get the exact addresses, assuming you have DNS configured, just type for example host proxy.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au If you are running this machine as a proxy and mail server then add aliases for these addresses _and_ the corresponding entries in your /etc/hosts But now to get to your specific problems: parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au should be your domain name and not your hostname which should be something like tux.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au! Make a point of fixing this or you will have problems. A good /etc/hosts entry might be: 10.12.217.88 tux.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au tux The change you made to the postfix allows _all_ computers to access and use your SMTP service. This is why it was required for client PC's on your network to access the postfix server. You should make the following change to postfix's main.cf also: mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, $mydomain which will inform the server that it is the termination point for mail addressed user at parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au For forwarding to the outside world add: relayhost = [smtp.schools.nsw.edu.au] Then you should be cooking with gas ;-) Sorry to hit you with that much at once... do the last things first and worry about aliases later... that just makes things more integrated and nicer > I just set up a Red Hat 7.3 box and gave it the hostname you suggested - > parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au > I installed Postfix and Cucipop. > To get postfix to work I had to make an entry in the hosts file - > 10.12.217.88 parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu au > There was only 127.0.0.1 localhost there. > > Also had to go in and edit Postfix's main.cf file to get inet_interfaces > from localhost to all . > Have no idea if that last was a good idea. > Next thing is to try to get internal mail forwarded on to the outer > world. > > Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Dorrell [mailto:andrew.dorrell at cisra.canon.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2002 7:47 AM > To: Parkes High School > Subject: Re: postfix etc > > Parkes High School wrote: > >>*Hello again Andrew* >> >>* * >> >>*I just installed a telnet server on the Mandrake 9.0 box and can now >>telnet into it from another machine on the network - to both port 23 > > and > >>port 25 - but still cannot send a test email from the workstation to > > the > >>smtp server - Postfix. So it seems like a Postfix configuration > > problem > >>perhaps?* > > > I see you have now received some other answers that are knowledgable > about postfix - good :-) > > The reason for trying to telnet to port 25 is that this is the port your > > SMTP server listens on. Being able to telnet to it just shows that its > there and working - helps you narrow down where to look. But you have > that now with the postfix forwarding configuration fix. > > Hope it goes well. > > >>*The pop server cucipop does not give an error* >> >>* * >> >>*Peter* >> > > > -- Andrew Dorrell PhD. Senior Research Engineer Canon Information Systems Research Australia Phone: 61 2 9805 2224 1 Thomas Holt Drive, North Ryde, NSW 2113. Fax: 61 2 9805 2865 From parkeshs at ozemail.com.au Wed Nov 6 08:39:01 2002 From: parkeshs at ozemail.com.au (Parkes High School) Date: Wed Nov 6 08:39:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] squid no running copy Message-ID: <000001c2852c$c9eb9530$4ad90c0a@librarian> If I restart squid I get this unnerving error message: Squid: error: no running copy What does this mean? What can I do about it? If I run ps I see no useful information Peter Hughes Parkes HS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021106/3c286f78/attachment.htm From ken_yap at users.sourceforge.net Wed Nov 6 08:51:01 2002 From: ken_yap at users.sourceforge.net (ken_yap at users.sourceforge.net) Date: Wed Nov 6 08:51:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] squid no running copy In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:38:06 +1100. <000001c2852c$c9eb9530$4ad90c0a@librarian> Message-ID: <20021106005225.1D6A8267D@ken.ken.com.au> >If I restart squid I get this unnerving error message: > >Squid: error: no running copy It means there was no running squid to stop. If you really wanted a cold start, you should do start, not restart. The other possibility is that squid died, which is the real problem. From arjen at mysql.com Thu Nov 7 07:13:01 2002 From: arjen at mysql.com (Arjen Lentz) Date: Thu Nov 7 07:13:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] [Fwd: (Microsoft) Halloween VII: Survey Says] Message-ID: <1036623402.1380.165.camel@george.bitbike.com> ESR (Eric Raymond) has received yet another internal Microsoft Memo http://opensource.org/halloween/halloween7.php Halloween VII: Survey Says "The document reproduced below was presented at a Microsoft internal Linux Strategic Review held at the Microsoft offices in Berlin during Sept. 2002. I received it on 5 November 2002." [Arjen comment] one of the main things is that Microsoft's research has found that: [snip] "* Messages that criticize OSS, Linux, & the GPL are NOT effective. Messaging that discusses possible Linux patent violations, pings the OSS development process for lacking accountability, attempts to call out the 'viral' aspect of the GPL, and the like are only marginally effective in driving unfavorable opinions around OSS, Linux, and the GPL, and in some cases backfire. On the other hand ?positive? OSS, Linux, and GPL messages are very effective - both across geographies and audiences." [snap] Microsoft now aims to focus on TCO (total cost of ownership), even though their survey also showed that even for an opensource TCO equal to Microsoft's licensing, people still saw opensource as more favourable (with reasons like "alternative to microsoft" and "not solely dependent on US technology"). But do read the whole thing... it's quite informative! Cheers, Arjen. -- MySQL Training in Sydney: 9-13 Dec 2002, http://www.mysql.com/training/ Purchase Training, Support, Licenses @ https://order.mysql.com/?marl __ ___ ___ ____ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ / Mr. Arjen G. Lentz / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Technical Writer, Trainer /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Brisbane, QLD Australia <___/ www.mysql.com From jsimovic at rydesc-h.schools.nsw.edu.au Fri Nov 8 10:29:02 2002 From: jsimovic at rydesc-h.schools.nsw.edu.au (John Simovic) Date: Fri Nov 8 10:29:02 2002 Subject: [Lias] M$ SFU 3 Message-ID: Anybody used Microsoft Services for Unix 3.0. If so, how well does it work for authentication and mounting nfs shares.(In other words am I going to have to reboot every 5 minutes) TIA From parkeshs at ozemail.com.au Fri Nov 8 11:40:01 2002 From: parkeshs at ozemail.com.au (Parkes High School) Date: Fri Nov 8 11:40:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] squid Message-ID: <000201c286d8$76e25ec0$4ad90c0a@librarian> Is it possible to configure the squid.conf file to block machines on my network with certain IP addresses from accessing the Internet? Peter Hughes Parkes HS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021108/e99651df/attachment.htm From parkeshs at ozemail.com.au Fri Nov 8 13:05:01 2002 From: parkeshs at ozemail.com.au (Parkes High School) Date: Fri Nov 8 13:05:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] squid pid Message-ID: <000801c286e4$5aab33b0$4ad90c0a@librarian> I have a problem with squid. When I type the command service squid restart I get a response that there is no running copy. If I type service squid status the response is: Squid (pid 1599 1233 1204) is running Squid: error: no running copy When I make changes to the squid.conf file the changes do not take effect if I restart squid, - I have to reboot. I have seen the response in the squid faq but really do not understand how to carry out the instructions there. Can any one help in rudimentary terms? Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021108/26bc4887/attachment.htm From dhooper at team.emerge.net.au Fri Nov 8 13:16:01 2002 From: dhooper at team.emerge.net.au (Daniel Hooper) Date: Fri Nov 8 13:16:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] squid pid Message-ID: <3076C6BB83297748A2614A00F6A9D735055F09@goldfish.team.emerge.net.au> Peter, Start with a clean squid.conf, eg.. get the one that is shipped with your distrib, modify the ACL's to allow your network range to use the proxy server. Depending on your distribution but in the majority of them you'd start/restart squid by /etc/init.d/squid start If its already running, try squid -k reconfigure That will reconfigure squid on the fly. Also, double check your cache, it should live in /var/spool/squid, if there's nothing in there, do squid -z to create the directories. Best of luck. -Daniel Hooper -----Original Message----- From: Parkes High School [mailto:parkeshs at ozemail.com.au] Sent: Friday, 8 November 2002 1:05 PM To: lias at lists.linux.org.au Subject: [Lias] squid pid I have a problem with squid. When I type the command service squid restart I get a response that there is no running copy. If I type service squid status the response is: Squid (pid 1599 1233 1204) is running Squid: error: no running copy When I make changes to the squid.conf file the changes do not take effect if I restart squid, - I have to reboot. I have seen the response in the squid faq but really do not understand how to carry out the instructions there. Can any one help in rudimentary terms? Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021108/52616a5d/attachment.htm From craig at postnewspapers.com.au Mon Nov 18 10:45:01 2002 From: craig at postnewspapers.com.au (Craig Ringer) Date: Mon Nov 18 10:45:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] squid References: <000201c286d8$76e25ec0$4ad90c0a@librarian> Message-ID: <3DD853F3.3020809@postnewspapers.com.au> Parkes High School wrote: > Is it possible to configure the squid.conf file to block machines on my > network with certain IP addresses from accessing the Internet? It certainly is. You just add an appropriate ACL in squid.conf, or even better you can use webmin to get a nice GUI. On my system, if I wanted to prevent the machine 10.0.0.1 from accessing the 'net, I'd add this to the ACL section of squid.conf: acl blockedhost src 10.0.0.1/255.255.255.255 "blockedhost" is the name I've given the ACL, and the blocked address includes a 32bit netmask that means "1 host". Note that this is an ACL that just matches the host, it does't say anything about what for. Then I add: http_access deny blockedhost to the access section of squid.conf and the host will be blocked. Similarly, to block the entire 10.0.0.0/24 block you: acl blockednet src 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 (and) http_access deny blockednet Note: order is not significant for ACL definitions but http_access definititions must be in order as the first match is used, much like iptables. Squid looks at each http_access line in turn and checks "does this apply? ok, next..." until it finds the first match and takes action from that. So, if you want everybody on 10.0.0.x except blockednet to have access you would have the following 2 ACLS (in any order): acl blockedhost src 10.0.0.1/255.255.255.255 acl localnet src 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 and make sure that these were in the following order: http_access deny blockedhost http_access allow localnet http_access deny all IF you instead had the http_access rules in this order: http_access allow localnet http_access deny blockedhost http_access deny all then the blockedhost rule would have no effect and blockedhost would still be allowed access, as blockedhost is also matched by localnet. If you want more information, there's lots of documentation for Squid both packaged with it and on the 'net. -- Craig Ringer GPG Key Fingerprint: AF1C ABFE 7E64 E9C8 FC27 C16E D3CE CDC0 0E93 380D -- if it ain't broke, add features 'till it is. (or:) while (! broken) { features ++ ; broken = isBroken(features) } From parkeshs at ozemail.com.au Wed Nov 20 11:55:01 2002 From: parkeshs at ozemail.com.au (Parkes High School) Date: Wed Nov 20 11:55:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] users changing passwords Message-ID: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> I have a RH 8 mail server set up OK Is it possible for my users to log in to the server via telnet to change their passwords? If so what commands shld they use please? Peter Hughes Parkes HS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021120/e67d9682/attachment.htm From lias at draxsen.com Wed Nov 20 12:12:01 2002 From: lias at draxsen.com (Phil Scarratt) Date: Wed Nov 20 12:12:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] users changing passwords In-Reply-To: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> References: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> Message-ID: <1037765479.3ddb0b67a851d@server> Yes, although SSH would be a better option. In either case they need a client. If you are using Windows workstations, they come with a telnet client. A windows port of OpenSSH is available for free from http://www.networksimplicity.com/. 1. telnet or ssh to the linux machine (which must have permissions to allow either e telnet or ssh connection) and login with the old password 2. Use the passwd command to change the password (simply typing "passwd" and pressing enter is sufficient to change password). That's it. Fil Quoting Parkes High School : > I have a RH 8 mail server set up OK > > Is it possible for my users to log in to the server via telnet to change > their passwords? > > If so what commands shld they use please? > > > > Peter Hughes > > Parkes HS > > > > > > -- Phil Scarratt IT Consultant 0403 531 271 From paul at gear.dyndns.org Wed Nov 20 12:19:01 2002 From: paul at gear.dyndns.org (Paul Gear) Date: Wed Nov 20 12:19:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] users changing passwords References: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> Message-ID: <3DDB0CE1.1070906@gear.dyndns.org> Parkes High School wrote: > I have a RH 8 mail server set up OK > > Is it possible for my users to log in to the server via telnet to > change their passwords? > > If so what commands shld they use please? > What i have used and i think you would find better is to provide a secure web interface to linuxconf (get it from the Red Hat 7.2 CDs - it was obsoleted in 7.3) using stunnel and use the linuxconf password change dialog. That way they never have to login to the box and cannot poke around and mess things up. Another option to use is Eudora's poppassd, which does the equivalent of telnet and passwd in one step and doesn't require logging in. You should be able to find this easily by searching google.com or freshmeat.net. Paul From paul at gear.dyndns.org Thu Nov 21 20:11:01 2002 From: paul at gear.dyndns.org (Paul Gear) Date: Thu Nov 21 20:11:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] users changing passwords References: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> <3DDB0CE1.1070906@gear.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <3DDCCD41.1020601@gear.dyndns.org> Paul Gear wrote: > Parkes High School wrote: > >> I have a RH 8 mail server set up OK >> >> Is it possible for my users to log in to the server via telnet to >> change their passwords? >> >> If so what commands shld they use please? >> > > What i have used and i think you would find better is to provide a > secure web interface to linuxconf (get it from the Red Hat 7.2 CDs - > it was obsoleted in 7.3) using stunnel and use the linuxconf password > change dialog. That way they never have to login to the box and > cannot poke around and mess things up. Les Bell suggested http://www.webmin.com to me instead of linuxconf. It looks pretty good. Paul http://paulgear.webhop.net From lias at draxsen.com Fri Nov 22 04:08:01 2002 From: lias at draxsen.com (Phil Scarratt) Date: Fri Nov 22 04:08:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] users changing passwords In-Reply-To: <3DDCCD41.1020601@gear.dyndns.org> References: <006601c29048$3033ee70$4ad90c0a@librarian> <3DDB0CE1.1070906@gear.dyndns.org> <3DDCCD41.1020601@gear.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1037909267.3ddd3d13aafbf@server> I can vouch for webmin - pretty good and extremely convenient. Make sure you keep up with the security updates and all should be well. I use it at various places. Fil Quoting Paul Gear : > Paul Gear wrote: > > > Parkes High School wrote: > > > >> I have a RH 8 mail server set up OK > >> > >> Is it possible for my users to log in to the server via telnet to > >> change their passwords? > >> > >> If so what commands shld they use please? > >> > > > > What i have used and i think you would find better is to provide a > > secure web interface to linuxconf (get it from the Red Hat 7.2 CDs - > > it was obsoleted in 7.3) using stunnel and use the linuxconf password > > change dialog. That way they never have to login to the box and > > cannot poke around and mess things up. > > > Les Bell suggested http://www.webmin.com to me instead of linuxconf. It > looks pretty good. > > Paul > http://paulgear.webhop.net > > > _______________________________________________ > lias mailing list > lias at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lias > -- Phil Scarratt IT Consultant 0403 531 271 From lesbell at lesbell.com.au Fri Nov 22 05:56:01 2002 From: lesbell at lesbell.com.au (Les Bell) Date: Fri Nov 22 05:56:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] users changing passwords Message-ID: Paul Gear wrote: >> Les Bell suggested http://www.webmin.com to me instead of linuxconf. It looks pretty good. << Thanks for the reminder, Paul - I got a bit busy yesterday to follow up. Actually, to allow users to change their passwords, I'd recommend Usermin, which is available from the same site, and allows users, rather than administrators, to change various options. It also includes web-based email access and a bunch of other stuff. One nice feature of Webmin and Usermin is their ability to keep UNIX, Samba and other passwords in sync, avoiding user confusion when they change one but not the other. I've had great success in letting complete novice users experiment with Linux in a classroom environment. I also have it installed in a local school, where I've snuck in a squid proxy and am looking at some other applications for the next spare old computer. Best, --- Les Bell, CISSP [http://www.lesbell.com.au] From alan.byrne at burnsie.com.au Fri Nov 22 11:17:01 2002 From: alan.byrne at burnsie.com.au (Alan Byrne) Date: Fri Nov 22 11:17:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Linux courses Message-ID: Hello everybody, I?ve been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it. But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a very strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely lost. My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? I? m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online curriculum, instructor led would be best. Thanks in advance, Alan Byrne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021122/ea92a03f/attachment.htm From leon at cyberknights.com.au Fri Nov 22 11:26:01 2002 From: leon at cyberknights.com.au (Leon Brooks) Date: Fri Nov 22 11:26:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Linux courses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200211221137.34499.leon@cyberknights.com.au> On Friday 22 November 2002 10:27 am, Alan Byrne wrote: > My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I > want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and > use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the > basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? > I? m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online > curriculum, instructor led would be best. Will be soon. Stay tuned. You can also read documents like Rute (Google for it). Cheers; Leon -- http://www.cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools, traditional dedication http://slpwa.linux.org.au/ Member, Linux Professionals West Aus http://conf.linux.org.au/ THE Australian Linux Technical Conf: 22-25 January 2003, Perth: be there! From paul at kcc.wa.edu.au Fri Nov 22 11:33:01 2002 From: paul at kcc.wa.edu.au (Paul Baumgarten) Date: Fri Nov 22 11:33:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Linux courses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000201c291d8$00936ba0$0a00000a@bauma> Alan: I don't know where you live... but a great place to start... and to network with other linux people... would be the Linux Conference Australia 2003 which is coming up in January. It'll be in Perth. Goto http://linux.conf.au/ for more info. Otherwise ask your local LUG (http://www.linux.org.au/usergroups/) what training they are aware of in your area. Regards Paul Baumgarten Information Technology Manager Kingsway Christian College Email: paul at kcc.wa.edu.au Office: 08 9302 8777 Mobile: 04 1994 2779 -----Original Message----- From: lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au [mailto:lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au] On Behalf Of Alan Byrne Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 10:27 AM To: linux list Subject: [Lias] Linux courses Hello everybody, I've been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it. But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a very strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely lost. My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and use scripts. 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URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021122/95d7fa9d/attachment.htm From lesbell at lesbell.com.au Fri Nov 22 11:36:01 2002 From: lesbell at lesbell.com.au (Les Bell) Date: Fri Nov 22 11:36:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Linux courses Message-ID: IBM Australia has a very good curriculum of Linux courses which starts out with the basics and builds up to specialised courses, including building clusters, installing Linux on mainframes, etc. Most are developed in Europe, and are intended to match various industry certifications, including LPI, RHCE, etc. See http://www-8.ibm.com/services/learning/au/ta-iris.nsf/External%5CX-08?OpenView&Start=1.3.13&Count=30&ExpandView for details. Best, --- Les Bell, CISSP [http://www.lesbell.com.au] From paul at gear.dyndns.org Fri Nov 22 11:48:02 2002 From: paul at gear.dyndns.org (Paul Gear) Date: Fri Nov 22 11:48:02 2002 Subject: [Lias] Linux courses References: <200211221137.34499.leon@cyberknights.com.au> Message-ID: <3DDDA8DA.1010207@gear.dyndns.org> Leon Brooks wrote: >On Friday 22 November 2002 10:27 am, Alan Byrne wrote: > > >>My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I >>want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and >>use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the >>basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? >>I? m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online >>curriculum, instructor led would be best. >> >> > >Will be soon. Stay tuned. > >You can also read documents like Rute (Google for it). > Rute is definitely a comprehensive guide for the beginner. Paul From alan at burnsie.com.au Fri Nov 22 11:50:02 2002 From: alan at burnsie.com.au (Alan Byrne) Date: Fri Nov 22 11:50:02 2002 Subject: [Lias] RE: Linux courses Message-ID: Oh, and I live in Sydney, around the Parramatta area. Cheers, Alan -----Original Message----- From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan.byrne at burnsie.com.au] Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 1:27 PM To: linux list Subject: Linux courses Hello everybody, I?ve been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it. But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a very strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely lost. My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? I? m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online curriculum, instructor led would be best. Thanks in advance, Alan Byrne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021122/8c14654d/attachment.htm From paul at gear.dyndns.org Fri Nov 22 11:56:01 2002 From: paul at gear.dyndns.org (Paul Gear) Date: Fri Nov 22 11:56:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Linux courses References: <000201c291d8$00936ba0$0a00000a@bauma> Message-ID: <3DDDAADB.2010101@gear.dyndns.org> Paul Baumgarten wrote: > Alan: > > I don't know where you live... but a great place to start... and to > network with other linux people... would be the Linux Conference > Australia 2003 which is coming up in January. It'll be in Perth. > Goto http://linux.conf.au/ for more info. Otherwise ask your local > LUG (http://www.linux.org.au/usergroups/) what training they are aware > of in your area. > > Regards > > > Paul Baumgarten > Information Technology Manager > Kingsway Christian College > I can vouch for Linux Conference - i went to the one here in Brisbane this year and it was great! Paul From dhooper at team.emerge.net.au Fri Nov 22 12:05:02 2002 From: dhooper at team.emerge.net.au (Daniel Hooper) Date: Fri Nov 22 12:05:02 2002 Subject: [Lias] RE: Linux courses Message-ID: <3076C6BB83297748A2614A00F6A9D735055F19@goldfish.team.emerge.net.au> Your probably just better off installing what ever packages you want to toy around and just play with them, most configuration files are straight forward and well commented. There's also a couple of quick DOS to UNIX guide's on the web, I've noticed that a lot of these linux courses only cater for Redhat, hopefully after time you will move onto something a little better :-) eg.. Debian Oh..and if you get really stuck trying to make something work, there's always webmin which is handy for getting a nice configuration interface for pretty much every daemon/service on your system. -Daniel Hooper -----Original Message----- From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan at burnsie.com.au] Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 11:53 AM To: linux list Subject: [Lias] RE: Linux courses Oh, and I live in Sydney, around the Parramatta area. Cheers, Alan -----Original Message----- From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan.byrne at burnsie.com.au] Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 1:27 PM To: linux list Subject: Linux courses Hello everybody, I've been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it. But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a very strong windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely lost. My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? I'm not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online curriculum, instructor led would be best. Thanks in advance, Alan Byrne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Paul From parkeshs at ozemail.com.au Mon Nov 25 08:39:01 2002 From: parkeshs at ozemail.com.au (Parkes High School) Date: Mon Nov 25 08:39:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix Message-ID: <001701c2941a$c30e4cb0$4ad90c0a@librarian> Setting up an internal mail system This was set up on a Red Hat 8 machine using postfix as the smtp server and cucipop as the pop server. DET has assigned my school Parkes High School the hostname parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au I gave the linux machine the name mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au DET reserves a number 21 for mail servers so I gave it an IP address of 10.12.217.21 (10.12.217.21 is reserved for a proxy server) Postfix was a part of a default Red Hat 8.0 server install but it always pays to check on the packages that are being installed from the word go so make sure you check that it is installed. Also at this time it is work ensuring that the ftp server package vsFTPD is installed so you can ftp files to the linux machine. Cucipop can be obtained from: http://www.vergenet.net/linux/cucipop/ cucipop is pretty simple and runs without fiddling but postfix was another matter. With help from this list I configured Postfix to send mail internall around our school and with some further configuring got ITD to enable relaying of mail to and from outside the school. This took a little more fiddling with the main.cf file. Also if you want to be able to send and receive on your account to the outside world you need to contact ITD and ask them to create an MX record for you. The initial person you talk to on the ITD help deks will probably not me able to do this for you but they will log your call, give you a job number and someone will eventuall get back to you. Here is a direct number you might try: 02 9942 9641 here are the key entried you need to make in the main.cf file: /etc/postfix/main.cf these are my setinga so you will need to alter them to suit your own situation. myhostname = mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au mydomain = parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au myorigin = $mydomain inet interfaces = all mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain mynetworks = 10.12.217.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 relayhost = [smtp.schools.nsw.edu.au]. Many thanks to various members of this list - especially Andrew Dorrell without whose help I would have floundered utterly. I attach a copy of my postfix main.cf Peter Hughes Parkes HS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021125/bf04ebc8/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: main.cf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 21498 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021125/bf04ebc8/attachment.obj From Graeme.Patterson at det.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 26 06:22:01 2002 From: Graeme.Patterson at det.nsw.edu.au (Patterson, Graeme) Date: Tue Nov 26 06:22:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix Message-ID: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A03277523829@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> I set up a pop server a couple of years ago. It could mail out but could not receive mail. DET did not support email relay. We just used it for internal email within the computer labs. Same box also used as a samba server / domain controller before our school got a 'real' NT server. Questions:- What will happen to your accounts when the teachers/students get their ITD/ISP accounts next year? Is there a current version of samba? Does it support login/connections to XP pro? I ask because I believe samba (3 years ago) did not support encrypted passwords. XP pro = NT workstation? and NT workststion encrypted login was incompatible with old smba. I've mucked around with Linux since mid 90s. Started with Walnut Creek's Slackware. Mostly RH since then. Disappointed with the equation editor in the office wordprocessor. Has it improved in recent releases? cheers, Graeme -----Original Message----- From: Parkes High School [mailto:parkeshs at ozemail.com.au] Sent: Mon 25/11/2002 11:36 AM To: lias at lists.linux.org.au Cc: Subject: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix Setting up an internal mail system This was set up on a Red Hat 8 machine using postfix as the smtp server and cucipop as the pop server. DET has assigned my school Parkes High School the hostname parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au I gave the linux machine the name mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au DET reserves a number 21 for mail servers so I gave it an IP address of 10.12.217.21 (10.12.217.21 is reserved for a proxy server) Postfix was a part of a default Red Hat 8.0 server install but it always pays to check on the packages that are being installed from the word go so make sure you check that it is installed. Also at this time it is work ensuring that the ftp server package vsFTPD is installed so you can ftp files to the linux machine. Cucipop can be obtained from: http://www.vergenet.net/linux/cucipop/ cucipop is pretty simple and runs without fiddling but postfix was another matter. With help from this list I configured Postfix to send mail internall around our school and with some further configuring got ITD to enable relaying of mail to and from outside the school. This took a little more fiddling with the main.cf file. Also if you want to be able to send and receive on your account to the outside world you need to contact ITD and ask them to create an MX record for you. The initial person you talk to on the ITD help deks will probably not me able to do this for you but they will log your call, give you a job number and someone will eventuall get back to you. Here is a direct number you might try: 02 9942 9641 here are the key entried you need to make in the main.cf file: /etc/postfix/main.cf these are my setinga so you will need to alter them to suit your own situation. myhostname = mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au mydomain = parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au myorigin = $mydomain inet interfaces = all mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain mynetworks = 10.12.217.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 relayhost = [smtp.schools.nsw.edu.au]. Many thanks to various members of this list - especially Andrew Dorrell without whose help I would have floundered utterly. I attach a copy of my postfix main.cf Peter Hughes Parkes HS From lias at draxsen.com Tue Nov 26 07:21:01 2002 From: lias at draxsen.com (Phil Scarratt) Date: Tue Nov 26 07:21:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix In-Reply-To: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A03277523829@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> References: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A03277523829@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> Message-ID: <1038266527.3de2b09f4e7b2@server> The current version of Samba is 2.2.7 (as of the 20th of Nov). I have no problem with NT logins using a Linux (RH7.3) box as the PDC. XP should be not problem but cannot confirm as I have not tried it myself - certainly Windows 2000 is no problem at all. Fil Quoting "Patterson, Graeme" : > I set up a pop server a couple of years ago. It could mail out but could not > receive mail. DET did not support email relay. We just used it for internal > email within the computer labs. Same box also used as a samba server / domain > controller before our school got a 'real' NT server. > Questions:- > What will happen to your accounts when the teachers/students get their > ITD/ISP accounts next year? > Is there a current version of samba? Does it support login/connections to XP > pro? I ask because I believe samba (3 years ago) did not support encrypted > passwords. XP pro = NT workstation? and NT workststion encrypted login was > incompatible with old smba. > > I've mucked around with Linux since mid 90s. Started with Walnut Creek's > Slackware. Mostly RH since then. Disappointed with the equation editor in > the office wordprocessor. Has it improved in recent releases? > > cheers, > Graeme > > -----Original Message----- > From: Parkes High School [mailto:parkeshs at ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Mon 25/11/2002 11:36 AM > To: lias at lists.linux.org.au > Cc: > Subject: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix > > > > Setting up an internal mail system > > > > This was set up on a Red Hat 8 machine using postfix as the smtp server and > cucipop as the pop server. > > DET has assigned my school Parkes High School the hostname > parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au > > I gave the linux machine the name mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au > > > > DET reserves a number 21 for mail servers so I gave it an IP address of > 10.12.217.21 > > > > (10.12.217.21 is reserved for a proxy server) > > > > Postfix was a part of a default Red Hat 8.0 server install but it always pays > to check on the packages that are being installed from the word go so make > sure you check that it is installed. > > > > Also at this time it is work ensuring that the ftp server package vsFTPD is > installed so you can ftp files to the linux machine. > > > > Cucipop can be obtained from: > > http://www.vergenet.net/linux/cucipop/ > > > > cucipop is pretty simple and runs without fiddling but postfix was another > matter. > > With help from this list I configured Postfix to send mail internall around > our school and with some further configuring got ITD to enable relaying of > mail to and from outside the school. This took a little more fiddling with > the main.cf file. > > > > Also if you want to be able to send and receive on your account to the > outside world you need to contact ITD and ask them to create an MX record for > you. The initial person you talk to on the ITD help deks will probably not > me able to do this for you but they will log your call, give you a job number > and someone will eventuall get back to you. > > > > Here is a direct number you might try: > > 02 9942 9641 > > > > here are the key entried you need to make in the main.cf file: > > > > /etc/postfix/main.cf > > > > these are my setinga so you will need to alter them to suit your own > situation. > > myhostname = mail.parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au > > > > mydomain = parkes-h.schools.nsw.edu.au > > > > myorigin = $mydomain > > > > inet interfaces = all > > > > mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain > > > > mynetworks = 10.12.217.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 > > > > relayhost = [smtp.schools.nsw.edu.au]. > > > > Many thanks to various members of this list - especially Andrew Dorrell > without whose help I would have floundered utterly. > > > > I attach a copy of my postfix main.cf > > > > Peter Hughes > > Parkes HS > > _______________________________________________ > lias mailing list > lias at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lias > -- Phil Scarratt IT Consultant 0403 531 271 From sbryan at olmc.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 26 07:30:02 2002 From: sbryan at olmc.nsw.edu.au (Simon Bryan) Date: Tue Nov 26 07:30:02 2002 Subject: [Lias] setting up mail server with postfix In-Reply-To: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A03277523829@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> Message-ID: > Is there a current version of samba? Yes see http://au1.samba.org/samba/samba.html Does it support login/connections to XP pro? I ask because I believe samba (3 > years ago) did not support encrypted passwords. XP pro = NT > workstation? and NT workststion encrypted login was incompatible > with old smba. Samba has long had the ability to encrypt passwords and participate in domain security. AFAIK it cannot yet emualte a W2K server, but that is coming. > I've mucked around with Linux since mid 90s. Started with Walnut > Creek's Slackware. Mostly RH since then. Disappointed with the > equation editor in the office wordprocessor. Has it improved in > recent releases? Which Office package? there are several. The flavour of the month is Star Office 6 also known as Open Office 1.0.1 (the GPL version - identical except no database as that is not part of the package, comes from Adabas and a smaller clip art gallery.) This is very recent so you may want to have a look. http://www.openoffice.org/ From lias at draxsen.com Tue Nov 26 09:04:01 2002 From: lias at draxsen.com (Phil Scarratt) Date: Tue Nov 26 09:04:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC Message-ID: <1038272689.3de2c8b172f01@server> Some information I found in the UNofficial Samba HowTo (http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba.html) on XP Pro clients. Extract from there follows: ############## EXTRACT ############## Windows XP Clients To force Windows XP Professional clients to accept Samba as a PDC, use the built-in XP Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) and locate the Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\Security Options branch. Make sure to disable the following policies: Domain Member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always) Domain Member: Digitally sign secure channel data (when possible) Alternately, you can make the following change to the registry: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters] "requiresignorseal"=dword:00000000 "signsecurechannel"=dword:00000000 To disable annoying Event Viewer notifications about "Automatic certificate enrollment for local system failed to contact the active directory" every eight hours, locate the Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Public Key Policies branch and select "Do not enroll certificates automatically" under Autoenrollment Settings. Note that this policy won't be available until after the XP machine has joined the domain. If you'd like to use Roaming Profiles with Windows XP clients that have Service Pack 1 or later installed, use the built-in XP Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) and locate the Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\User Profiles branch. This is described in Microsoft's Technet Q327462. Make sure to enable the following policy: Do not check for user ownership of Roaming Profile Folders Alternately, you can make the following change to the registry: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System] "CompatibleRUPSecurity"=dword:00000001 Alternately as well, you can make the following addition to your smb.conf file: [profile] profile acls = yes Windows XP Home Edition does not support logging into a Primary Domain Controller, so you'll have to use Windows XP Professional instead. ############## END EXTRACT ############## -- Phil Scarratt IT Consultant 0403 531 271 From jsimovic at rydesc-h.schools.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 26 10:56:01 2002 From: jsimovic at rydesc-h.schools.nsw.edu.au (John Simovic) Date: Tue Nov 26 10:56:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Hi All. Message-ID: Having a look at Lycoris reminds me very much of Caldera. If this is similar does anybody know whether Caldera rpms would work on Lycoris? It seems there are very little server daemons available for lycoris and if I could use OpenDesktop rms's then maybe LTSP would work with Lycoris? Any ideas? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021126/7452ad65/attachment.htm From leon at cyberknights.com.au Tue Nov 26 11:12:02 2002 From: leon at cyberknights.com.au (Leon Brooks) Date: Tue Nov 26 11:12:02 2002 Subject: [Lias] Caldera RPMs on Lycoris In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200211261114.27690.leon@cyberknights.com.au> On Tuesday 26 November 2002 11:02 am, John Simovic wrote: > if I could use OpenDesktop rms's then maybe LTSP would work with Lycoris? Probaly safer to rebuild from a source RPM and use that. Expect dependencies to be a slight PITA first time around. Cheers; Leon -- http://www.cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools, traditional dedication http://slpwa.linux.org.au/ Member, Linux Professionals West Aus http://conf.linux.org.au/ THE Australian Linux Technical Conf: 22-25 January 2003, Perth: be there! From lesbell at lesbell.com.au Tue Nov 26 13:30:02 2002 From: lesbell at lesbell.com.au (Les Bell) Date: Tue Nov 26 13:30:02 2002 Subject: [Lias] Hi All. Message-ID: "John Simovic" wrote: >> Having a look at Lycoris reminds me very much of Caldera. If this is similar does anybody know whether Caldera rpms would work on Lycoris? << Lycoris branched from Caldera in the 2.4 days, well before Caldera 3.1. I wouldn't *expect* Caldera RPM's to work, though it's worth a try. My preferred approach to fixing the problems would be to grab the source RPM's and rebuild them - only minor editing of the .spec file should be required. Best, --- Les Bell, CISSP [http://www.lesbell.com.au] From dsavill at excido.com Tue Nov 26 13:55:01 2002 From: dsavill at excido.com (David Savill) Date: Tue Nov 26 13:55:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Caldera RPMs on Lycoris Message-ID: <20021126055954.38C5A151D@saruman.excido.com> Yeah... Lycoris puts some stuff in strange places Redhat RPMS generally work ok.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Leon Brooks To: lias at lists.linux.org.au Received: 26/11/2002 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Lias] Caldera RPMs on Lycoris > On Tuesday 26 November 2002 11:02 am, John Simovic wrote: > > if I could use OpenDesktop rms's then maybe LTSP would work with Lycoris? > > Probaly safer to rebuild from a source RPM and use that. Expect dependencies > to be a slight PITA first time around. > > Cheers; Leon > > -- > http://www.cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools, traditional dedication > http://slpwa.linux.org.au/ Member, Linux Professionals West Aus > http://conf.linux.org.au/ THE Australian Linux Technical Conf: > 22-25 January 2003, Perth: be there! > > _______________________________________________ > lias mailing list > lias at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lias > From sbryan at olmc.nsw.edu.au Tue Nov 26 18:20:02 2002 From: sbryan at olmc.nsw.edu.au (Simon Bryan) Date: Tue Nov 26 18:20:02 2002 Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC In-Reply-To: <1038272689.3de2c8b172f01@server> Message-ID: I just read that page, and at last setting Samba up as a PDC looks like I could achieve it! Good reference. Thanks > -----Original Message----- > From: lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au > [mailto:lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au]On Behalf Of Phil Scarratt > Sent: Tue, 26. November 2002 12:05 PM > To: LIAS > Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC > > > Some information I found in the UNofficial Samba HowTo > (http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba.html) on XP Pro clients. > > Extract from there follows: > > ############## EXTRACT ############## > > Windows XP Clients > > To force Windows XP Professional clients to accept Samba as a PDC, use the > built-in XP Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) and locate the Computer > Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local > Policies\Security Options > branch. Make sure to disable the following policies: > > Domain Member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always) > Domain Member: Digitally sign secure channel data (when possible) > > Alternately, you can make the following change to the registry: > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters] > "requiresignorseal"=dword:00000000 > "signsecurechannel"=dword:00000000 > > To disable annoying Event Viewer notifications about "Automatic > certificate > enrollment for local system failed to contact the active > directory" every eight > hours, locate the Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security > Settings\Public Key Policies branch and select "Do not enroll certificates > automatically" under Autoenrollment Settings. Note that this > policy won't be > available until after the XP machine has joined the domain. > > If you'd like to use Roaming Profiles with Windows XP clients > that have Service > Pack 1 or later installed, use the built-in XP Group Policy > editor (gpedit.msc) > and locate the Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\User > Profiles branch. This is described in Microsoft's Technet > Q327462. Make sure to > enable the following policy: > > Do not check for user ownership of Roaming Profile Folders > > Alternately, you can make the following change to the registry: > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System] > "CompatibleRUPSecurity"=dword:00000001 > > Alternately as well, you can make the following addition to your > smb.conf file: > > [profile] > profile acls = yes > > Windows XP Home Edition does not support logging into a Primary Domain > Controller, so you'll have to use Windows XP Professional instead. > > ############## END EXTRACT ############## > > -- > Phil Scarratt > IT Consultant > 0403 531 271 > > _______________________________________________ > lias mailing list > lias at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lias From craigw at blue.net.au Tue Nov 26 20:06:01 2002 From: craigw at blue.net.au (Craig Warner) Date: Tue Nov 26 20:06:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] RE: Linux courses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1038351941.9168.1.camel@linux> Granville TAFE runs introduction to Linus, programming in Linux, LPI 1 and 2 courses See www.slug.org.au for details On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 14:53, Alan Byrne wrote: > Oh, and I live in Sydney, around the Parramatta area. > > Cheers, > > Alan > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Byrne [mailto:alan.byrne at burnsie.com.au] > Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 1:27 PM > To: linux list > Subject: Linux courses > > Hello everybody, > > I?ve been running redhat for about 3 weeks and I am very impressed with it. > But the problem is, I have no idea what I am doing. I have a very strong > windows background, but when it comes to Linux I am absolutely lost. > > My question is: Does anyone know where I can learn how to use linux? I > want to learn how to do hardcore things like setting up apache, squid and > use scripts. Are there courses available that will start off with the > basics and end with in the advanced stuff? Or a combination of courses? I? > m not very good when it comes to learning from a book or from an online > curriculum, instructor led would be best. > > Thanks in advance, > > Alan Byrne From Graeme.Patterson at det.nsw.edu.au Thu Nov 28 06:17:19 2002 From: Graeme.Patterson at det.nsw.edu.au (Patterson, Graeme) Date: Thu Nov 28 06:17:19 2002 Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC Message-ID: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A0327752382D@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> Thanks for the replies. Do I need to disable the policy "Send unencrypted password to conect to third-party SMB servers"? - Graeme -----Original Message----- From: Simon Bryan [mailto:sbryan at olmc.nsw.edu.au] Sent: Tue 26/11/2002 9:20 PM To: Phil Scarratt; LIAS Cc: Subject: RE: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC I just read that page, and at last setting Samba up as a PDC looks like I could achieve it! Good reference. Thanks > -----Original Message----- > From: lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au > [mailto:lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au ]On Behalf Of Phil Scarratt > Sent: Tue, 26. November 2002 12:05 PM > To: LIAS > Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC > > > Some information I found in the UNofficial Samba HowTo > (http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba.html ) on XP Pro clients. > > Extract from there follows: > > ############## EXTRACT ############## > > Windows XP Clients > > To force Windows XP Professional clients to accept Samba as a PDC, use the > built-in XP Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) and locate the Computer > Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local > Policies\Security Options > branch. Make sure to disable the following policies: > > Domain Member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always) > Domain Member: Digitally sign secure channel data (when possible) > ---- snip ---- From lias at draxsen.com Thu Nov 28 06:54:01 2002 From: lias at draxsen.com (Phil Scarratt) Date: Thu Nov 28 06:54:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC In-Reply-To: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A0327752382D@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> References: <3EE114762F736640A35D581B82A0327752382D@itfexch3.is-mail.det.win> Message-ID: <1038437718.3de54d56ac187@server> No shouldn't have to as long as your smb.conf file has the following directive set encrypt passwords = Yes Fil Quoting "Patterson, Graeme" : > Thanks for the replies. > > Do I need to disable the policy > "Send unencrypted password to conect to third-party SMB servers"? > > - Graeme > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Bryan [mailto:sbryan at olmc.nsw.edu.au] > Sent: Tue 26/11/2002 9:20 PM > To: Phil Scarratt; LIAS > Cc: > Subject: RE: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC > > > > I just read that page, and at last setting Samba up as a PDC looks like I > could achieve it! Good reference. Thanks > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au > > [mailto:lias-admin at lists.linux.org.au > ]On Behalf Of Phil Scarratt > > Sent: Tue, 26. November 2002 12:05 PM > > To: LIAS > > Subject: [Lias] XP Pro Clients on Samba PDC > > > > > > Some information I found in the UNofficial Samba HowTo > > (http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba.html > ) on XP Pro clients. > > > > Extract from there follows: > > > > ############## EXTRACT ############## > > > > Windows XP Clients > > > > To force Windows XP Professional clients to accept Samba as a PDC, use the > > > built-in XP Group Policy editor (gpedit.msc) and locate the Computer > > Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local > > Policies\Security Options > > branch. Make sure to disable the following policies: > > > > Domain Member: Digitally encrypt or sign secure channel data (always) > > Domain Member: Digitally sign secure channel data (when possible) > > > ---- snip ---- > > _______________________________________________ > lias mailing list > lias at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/lias > -- Phil Scarratt IT Consultant 0403 531 271 From parkeshs at ozemail.com.au Thu Nov 28 09:16:01 2002 From: parkeshs at ozemail.com.au (Parkes High School) Date: Thu Nov 28 09:16:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] Squirrel Mail and RH 8.0 Message-ID: <003401c2967b$7f12d680$4ad90c0a@librarian> Has anyone tried squirrel mail on RH 8 and had success? Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/lias/attachments/20021130/cd0e5f66/attachment.htm From ken_yap at users.sourceforge.net Sat Nov 30 07:03:01 2002 From: ken_yap at users.sourceforge.net (ken_yap at users.sourceforge.net) Date: Sat Nov 30 07:03:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] migrating users and their passwords In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:43:37 +1100. <005401c297f8$c1a7d300$4ad90c0a@librarian> Message-ID: <20021129230444.ADF403CEC@ken.ken.com.au> >I set up a mail server on a RH 8 box using postfix and cucipop. > >All worked well but the webmail interface I bought from www.adjeweb.com > will not work with RH 8.0. All is good with >RH 7.0 however. > >My users are going to be pretty peeved if I have to get them to enter >passwords again (they are getting sick of me always fiddling!) > >Can I somehow migrate them and their passwords from the RH 8.0 box to >the RH 7.0? Have you got MD5 passwords enabled in RH7.0? Also do you think you could turn off the annoying HTML mail? I'd like to apply an arc welder to the "genius" who thought up of HTML mail. It adds nothing of value. From andrew.dorrell at cisra.canon.com.au Sat Nov 30 21:12:01 2002 From: andrew.dorrell at cisra.canon.com.au (Andrew Dorrell) Date: Sat Nov 30 21:12:01 2002 Subject: [Lias] DET server address setup for schools Message-ID: <3DE8B94C.2020107@cisra.canon.com.au> I've been meaning to post this page for some time - a must for anyone wanting to setup servers within their school, lists all the recommended addresses and ports (the page is only visible from the schools WAN) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Schools - Proxy Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 23:46:34 +1100 From: The Dorrell Kids To: andrew.dorrell at cisra.canon.com.au http://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/internet/schools/ http://detwww.det.nsw.edu.au/internet/schools/sc-main.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If RH7 uses the same password format, and adjeweb's software uses the system passwords and mailboxes, just copy them (user by user) from /etc/shadow on the old system to the same file on the new, and their mail from/to /var/spool/mail/$USERNAME If the s/w uses standard HTTP authentication instead, and you can find a .htpasswd file, then copying the passwords would be no trouble but I have no idea where there mail might be stored. Otherwise, sorry, would need to know lots more (and have more time) in order to be able to help you. Cheers; Leon -- http://www.cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools, traditional dedication http://slpwa.linux.org.au/ Member, Linux Professionals West Aus http://conf.linux.org.au/ THE Australian Linux Technical Conf: 22-25 January 2003, Perth: be there!