[Computerbank] bad vibe unfortunately

Sat Sep 8 06:35:04 UTC 2001

Hi John and all computerbankers

Tech day is on Sept 16 starting at 10am

There will be a run through iof the hareware testing, install/config and
an opportunity for people to have a bit of enduser training ) for those
who don't run Limux.

Don't be oberwhelmed by the tech side of things just come and have a go
ut's easoer than most people think. I've had to help there ( rarely ) and
as acomplete non tech it wasn't as complex as I thought.

Come and learn a new skill :) this is not onlt for techs but for anyone
intersted in learning more tech skills

Pen    

On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, John Habermann wrote:

> Hi Ian 
> 
> We have been talking about having a dedicated training day were we spend the 
> day just training volunters in installations, hardware testing, etc. We were 
> thinking of a Sunday as Saturday has the training class and recipients 
> picking up machines. Sunday would be good as there would be no distractions 
> due to training, or support calls.
> 
> We have been trying to get detailed documentation together as far as the tech 
> side of things go which will make it a lot easier for new volunters to work 
> there way through installations and hardware testing. There are also efforts 
> underway regarding documentation for recipients. If anyone is interested in 
> getting involved in that sort of thing it would be really helpful as that is 
> becoming more of an issue as more and more people get computers. The training 
> day might be good for discussion of that side of things as well. Just a 
> suggestion!
> 
> If people  are interested I would be happy to have a training day next Sunday 
> which is the 16th. If there are other times that people would prefer please 
> let me know. I was thinking of starting at 10 and staying till 6 pm so people 
> would be able to come in at any time during the day.
> 
> If anyone is interested please let me know.
> 
> Thanks for posting that message to Bruce it is good to see some activity on 
> the list. 
> 
> John Habermann 
> Melbourne
> 
> On Friday 07 September 2001 09:35 am, Ian wrote:
> > Greetings folks
> > Who's this guy "to but in here" you're probably asking .
> > And maybe your right  but I thought id offer  my 10 cents
> > worth just in case
> > your interested.
> >
> > I  came in and joined CB  a few months back
> > I was impressed with the philosophy and the possibilities
> > that could be achieved by you guys and felt inspired to
> > join in the cause
> > And I  watch with great interest.
> >  As  CB  develops from a  bright idea in the mind of its
> > visionary into an
> > Invaluable  mechanism for building the "bridge between the
> > have's and have not's"
> >
> > And  all involved  are to be congratulated on the results
> > you've been able to achieve.
> > having said that as you'll no doubt agree theirs  yet a
> > long way to go.
> >
> > While I hesitate to criticise
> > It took me a good  90mins  on public transport each way to
> > attend CB in west Melbourne
> > which I did  for a few weeks but each time I arrived there
> > I found the days planned activities
> > that had each time been cancelled postponed or delayed or
> > altered  to the Point where I felt
> > my day had been wasted.
> >
> > Again id stress that I'm in no way intending to  belittle
> > the efforts of any one here but
> > Not to put to finer Point on it :
> > (The CB  would benefit greatly from a much firmer
> >  timetable
> > With regard to specific  scheduled events such as induction
> > & training sessions. )
> >
> > I personally felt that  it was assumed that because I was a
> > volunteer I had time to just waste
> > and having spend hours in transit in the hopes that what I
> > expected to occur when I arrived might
> > transpire. Which was more often was not the case.
> > Under  such circumstances  Enthusiasm quickly  wanes and
> > while I understand the benefits of flexibility  within an
> > org.
> > there's a  balance that needs  to be met .
> >
> > Maybe  firmer  Time scheduling, Regular planned  Events,
> >  and
> > Dedicated  training sessions  for us  "wet behind the ears
> > volunteers"
> >  will help
> >
> > just a thought
> > keep up the great work folks .
> >
> > regards
> > Ian J bell
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	John Habermann [SMTP:habbers at tpg.com.au]
> > Sent:	Friday, September 07, 2001 1:06 AM
> > To:	Don Cameron; Terry Collins
> > Cc:	computerbank at lists.linux.org.au
> > Subject:	Re: [Computerbank] bad vibe unfortunately
> >
> > Just wondering if Sally or anyone who knows the details
> > could explain just
> > why she has given up on computerbank.
> >
> > Was she unable to get in touch with anyone? Were
> > commitments made and then
> > not acted upon? Did she get know reponse?
> >
> > If we have an idea of just what the problem is we might be
> > able to improve
> > things.
> >
> > From the melbourne point of view I know things are quite
> > hectic and immediate
> > concerns such as training next days system builds and
> > answering support calls
> > suck up most of the time.
> >
> > John Habermann
> >
> > On Thursday 06 September 2001 04:13 pm, Don Cameron wrote:
> > > Ahhh,
> > >
> > > Sorry for diving in here, but Sally is a WA Community
> >
> > Development
> >
> > > Practitioner highly regarded throughout Australia for her
> >
> > work - Sally
> >
> > > approached CB on the recommendations of Bruce, myself,
> >
> > and others involved
> >
> > > in Australian rural revitalisation efforts - She is very
> >
> > real, very well
> >
> > > respected both within the community framework and by
> >
> > Governments of all
> >
> > > persuasions, and is a person of the highest character.
> > >
> > > Don Cameron
> > >
> > > ---- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Terry Collins" <terryc at woa.com.au>
> > > To: "Bruce McCubbery" <brucemcc at melbpc.org.au>
> > > Cc: <computerbank at lists.linux.org.au>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Computerbank] bad vibe unfortunately
> > >
> > > > Do we really want the Sally's of this world
> > > > And is Sally for real or just a scam merchant pushing
> >
> > another project or
> >
> > > > private interest.
> > >
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