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<DIV><SPAN class=728000618-01102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the
pointers (no pun intended) everyone!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=728000618-01102004><FONT face=Arial size=2>John
Pavao</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
tuxcpprogramming-admin@lists.linux.org.au
[mailto:tuxcpprogramming-admin@lists.linux.org.au]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Larry
Lines<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 01, 2004 12:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
tuxcpprogramming@lists.linux.org.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Re: [LC++]Getting
started<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>I use this site quite a bit for the standard
library:<BR>http://www.cppreference.com/<BR><BR>I don't have the functions
memorized and finding the<BR>best way to do something in any language is about
<BR>trial and error. I read tutorials on cplus.about.com <BR>and other sites
through google for specific tasks. I <BR>lurk this list and try to understand
what the questions<BR>and answers are. I also ask other experienced
c/c++<BR>coders. If they don't know, I ask this list.<BR><BR>My background is
everything but c/c++, and I have been<BR>tearing into it the best that I can for
the past 18 months.<BR>But it is difficult and takes time and lots of looking
<BR>stupid. But I know from learning other languages<BR>and giving people tips
and help with their work that<BR>the best thing is just to keep asking and
reading. And<BR>just admitting that you don't know is the easiest way<BR>to get
advice. Spend an honest effort trying to figure<BR>it out yourself and then ask
someone who knows.<BR><BR>Hope that helps... I am interested to see what
others<BR>on the list have to say.<BR><BR>Larry Lines<BR><BR>-------Original
Message-------<BR>> From: Robert Misior <misior@salem.edu><BR>>
Subject: Re: [LC++]Getting started<BR>> Sent: 01 Oct 2004
14:39:19<BR>><BR>> Hello,<BR>> <BR>> I would say that it still all
depends on what you are trying to do ( I<BR>> guess knowing what is possible
is the key)<BR>> Here are some links that I find useful: "C++
Beyond the Standard<BR>> Library"<BR>>
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2003/05/06/cplusplusian.html<BR>> and
this page has some usefully links:<BR>>
http://www.thefreecountry.com/sourcecode/cpp.shtml<BR>> If you are interested
in GUI development I would recommend Qt<BR>>
http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/index.html it is a lot more then just a GUI<BR>>
API, reminds me a lot of java :) with many standard objects. Or a pure<BR>>
open source GUI API http://www.wxwindows.org/<BR>> If you are
interested in graphics there is the classic OpenGL, or game<BR>> development
SDL http://www.libsdl.org/index.php (these two are C API but<BR>> you can use
them from C++)<BR>> <BR>> I'm also interested to see what will other
members of this list recommend.<BR>> <BR>> Hope this
helps,<BR>> Robert<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Pavao, John C.
wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Since no mailing list is really complete without
the occasional idiot<BR>> > newbie question... :-)<BR>>
><BR>> > I've been lurking this list for several months because I'm
trying to<BR>> > teach myself C++, but I certainly admit the list is out
of my league.<BR>> ><BR>> > As for trying to learn C++, I'm only
able to get so far when it comes<BR>> > to applying what I'm learning to
real world situations because I seem<BR>> > to be missing something
important. I haven't figured out how to know<BR>> > learn what
to use in a given situation. I do a lot of UNIX shell<BR>> >
scripting, and I'll often find myself saying, "ok, if this were a<BR>> >
shell script, I'd use the suchandsuch command", but I don't know what<BR>>
> to do in C++. I haven't found a good way to learn what's in
specific<BR>> > libraries and how to use what's there. I've
come up with a pile of<BR>> > simple working programs based on examples
I've seen, but when I get to<BR>> > wanting to do something I don't see in
an example, I'm stuck. A lot<BR>> > of what I do in my work is
working with text files and manipulating<BR>> > text. A lot of
awk, grep, sed, arrays and such. Could anyone point<BR>> > me
to where to look to learn what I need to know to do these kinds of<BR>> >
things?<BR>> ><BR>> > I know questions like this sometimes raise the
ire of the more<BR>> > advanced list members on any list. (One
of my all-time favorite posts<BR>> > on this or any list was when someone
asked why this list was so quiet<BR>> > and someone else responded
"because we already know everything".) <BR>> > It's not my
intention to start a fire-fight or anything, and I'm not<BR>> > asking for
anyone to teach me anything. All I'm really hoping for is<BR>>
> for someone to explain to me the best way for me to teach myself
how<BR>> > to do this...<BR>> ><BR>> > Thanks in
advance!<BR>> > John Pavao<BR>> ><BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
--<BR>> *Robert Misior*<BR>> Unix Systems Administrator/Programmer<BR>>
Salem Academy and College<BR>> 336.917.5460<BR>> Take Back the Web Get
Firefox!<BR>>
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<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Hello,<BR>> <BR>> I would say that it
still all depends on what you are trying to do ( I<BR>> guess knowing what is
possible is the key)<BR>> Here are some links that I find useful: "C++
Beyond the Standard<BR>> Library"
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2003/05/06/cplusplusian.html<BR>> and
this page has some usefully links:
http://www.thefreecountry.com/sourcecode/cpp.shtml<BR>> If you are interested
in GUI development I would recommend Qt
http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/index.html<BR>> it is a lot more then just a GUI
API, reminds me a lot of java :) with<BR>> many standard objects. Or a pure
open source GUI API http://www.wxwindows.org/<BR>> If you are
interested in graphics there is the classic OpenGL, or game<BR>> development
SDL http://www.libsdl.org/index.php<BR>> (these two are C API but you can use
them from C++)<BR>> <BR>> I'm also interested to see what will other
members of this list <BR>> recommend.<BR>> <BR>> Hope this
helps,<BR>> Robert<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Pavao, John C.
wrote:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Since no mailing list is
really complete without<BR>> the occasional idiot newbie question...
:-)<BR>> <BR>> I've been lurking this list for several months<BR>>
because I'm trying to teach myself C++, but I certainly admit the list<BR>>
is out of my league. <BR>> As for trying to learn C++, I'm only able to
get so<BR>> far when it comes to applying what I'm learning to real
world<BR>> situations because I seem to be missing something important.
I haven't<BR>> figured out how to know learn what to use in a given
situation. I do a<BR>> lot of UNIX shell scripting, and I'll often find
myself saying, "ok, if<BR>> this were a shell script, I'd use the suchandsuch
command", but I don't<BR>> know what to do in C++. I haven't found a
good way to learn what's in<BR>> specific libraries and how to use what's
there. I've come up with a<BR>> pile of simple working programs based
on examples I've seen, but when I<BR>> get to wanting to do something I don't
see in an example, I'm stuck. A<BR>> lot of what I do in my work is
working with text files and manipulating<BR>> text. A lot of awk, grep,
sed, arrays and such. Could anyone point me<BR>> to where to look to
learn what I need to know to do these kinds of<BR>> things?<BR>> I know
questions like this sometimes raise the ire<BR>> of the more advanced list
members on any list. (One of my all-time<BR>> favorite posts on this or
any list was when someone asked why this list<BR>> was so quiet and someone
else responded "because we already know<BR>> everything".) It's not my
intention to start a fire-fight or anything,<BR>> and I'm not asking for
anyone to teach me anything. All I'm really<BR>> hoping for is for
someone to explain to me the best way for me to teach<BR>> myself how to do
this...<BR>> Thanks in advance!<BR>> <BR>> John Pavao<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --<BR>> Robert Misior<BR>> Unix Systems
Administrator/Programmer<BR>> Salem Academy and College<BR>>
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