From pjb at pjb.com.au Wed Nov 8 16:26:28 2017 From: pjb at pjb.com.au (Peter Billam) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 16:26:28 +1100 Subject: [Taslug] All those Python experts out there ... Message-ID: Greetings all you Python experts :-) Sorry to bother you all ... I've been trying to install tensorflow, https://www.tensorflow.org/install/ and whether I install direct from pip3, or from a virtualenv, I get tensorflow-1.4.0-cp35-cp35m-linux_x86_64.whl is not a supported wheel on this platform So python3 -c \ "from pip import pep425tags;print(pep425tags.supported_tags)" reveals: [('cp35','cp35m','manylinux1_i686'), ('cp35','cp35m','linux_i686'), ('cp35', 'abi3', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('cp35','abi3', 'linux_i686'), ('cp35', 'none', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('cp35','none', 'linux_i686'), ('cp34', 'abi3', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('cp34','abi3', 'linux_i686'), ('cp33', 'abi3', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('cp33','abi3', 'linux_i686'), ('cp32', 'abi3', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('cp32','abi3', 'linux_i686'), ('py3', 'none', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('py3', 'none', 'linux_i686'), ('cp35','none','any'), ('cp3','none','any'), ('py35','none','any'), ('py3','none','any'), ('py34','none','any'), ('py33','none','any'), ('py32','none','any'),('py31','none','any'), ('py30','none','any')] That first option would seem to match, except I have manylinux1_i686 and linux_i686, whereas tensorflow wants linux_x86_64 Does that mean I have to run ubuntu instead of debian, or do I have to buy more modern hardware ? TIA :-), Peter Billam http://www.pjb.com.au pjb at pjb.com.au (03) 6278 9410 "Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949 From jkristen at theintraweb.net Wed Nov 8 20:16:49 2017 From: jkristen at theintraweb.net (John Kristensen) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 20:16:49 +1100 Subject: [Taslug] All those Python experts out there ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4af9e5e4-93d3-f5d6-e7cf-000455e1a90a@theintraweb.net> Hello Peter, On 08/11/17 16:26, Peter Billam wrote: > Does that mean I have to run ubuntu instead of debian, > or do I have to buy more modern hardware ? > I don't think this is a Debian specific problem. I've just tried on a fresh Debian stretch install without any problems: $ sudo apt-get install python3-venv $ python3 -m venv /tmp/venv $ /tmp/venv/bin/pip install tensorflow $ /tmp/venv/bin/pip freeze bleach==1.5.0 enum34==1.1.6 html5lib==0.9999999 Markdown==2.6.9 numpy==1.13.3 pkg-resources==0.0.0 protobuf==3.4.0 six==1.11.0 tensorflow==1.4.0 tensorflow-tensorboard==0.4.0rc2 Werkzeug==0.12.2 What specific commands are running to try and install the package? Are there any other errors? SeeYa, John. From jsbragg at scriptforge.org Wed Nov 8 20:20:01 2017 From: jsbragg at scriptforge.org (Scott Bragg) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 09:20:01 +0000 Subject: [Taslug] All those Python experts out there ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9a0a0bd0bc60c43f7c2fb74ea73d70da@scriptforge.org> Hi Peter, It looks like you are running 32bit Debian whereas TensorFlow is might only be supported on 64 bit. What CPU do you have in the machine, almost all Intel/AMD CPUs after 2005 are 64bit so you can install 32 and 64bit OSes on them. Can you tell us the results from commands: uname -a grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo Cheers, Scott November 8, 2017 4:27 PM, "Peter Billam" wrote: > Greetings all you Python experts :-) Sorry to bother you all ... > > I've been trying to install tensorflow, > https://www.tensorflow.org/install > and whether I install direct from pip3, or from a virtualenv, I get > tensorflow-1.4.0-cp35-cp35m-linux_x86_64.whl is not a supported > wheel on this platform > So > python3 -c \ > "from pip import pep425tags;print(pep425tags.supported_tags)" > reveals: > [('cp35','cp35m','manylinux1_i686'), ('cp35','cp35m','linux_i686'), > ('cp35', 'abi3', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('cp35','abi3', 'linux_i686'), > ('cp35', 'none', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('cp35','none', 'linux_i686'), > ('cp34', 'abi3', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('cp34','abi3', 'linux_i686'), > ('cp33', 'abi3', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('cp33','abi3', 'linux_i686'), > ('cp32', 'abi3', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('cp32','abi3', 'linux_i686'), > ('py3', 'none', 'manylinux1_i686'), ('py3', 'none', 'linux_i686'), > ('cp35','none','any'), ('cp3','none','any'), ('py35','none','any'), > ('py3','none','any'), ('py34','none','any'), ('py33','none','any'), > ('py32','none','any'),('py31','none','any'), ('py30','none','any')] > > That first option would seem to match, except I have manylinux1_i686 > and linux_i686, whereas tensorflow wants linux_x86_64 > Does that mean I have to run ubuntu instead of debian, > or do I have to buy more modern hardware ? > > TIA :-), Peter Billam > > http://www.pjb.com.au pjb at pjb.com.au (03) 6278 9410 > "Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman > from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949 > _______________________________________________ > Taslug mailing list > Taslug at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/taslug From pjb at pjb.com.au Wed Nov 8 21:08:21 2017 From: pjb at pjb.com.au (Peter Billam) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 21:08:21 +1100 Subject: [Taslug] All those Python experts out there ... In-Reply-To: <9a0a0bd0bc60c43f7c2fb74ea73d70da@scriptforge.org> References: <9a0a0bd0bc60c43f7c2fb74ea73d70da@scriptforge.org> Message-ID: On 2017-11-08 20:20, Scott Bragg wrote: > It looks like you are running 32bit Debian whereas TensorFlow > is might only be supported on 64 bit. > What CPU do you have in the machine, almost all Intel/AMD CPUs > after 2005 are 64bit so you can install 32 and 64bit OSes on them. > Can you tell us the results from commands: > uname -a > grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo box8:~# uname -a Linux box8 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2 (2017-04-30) i686 GNU/Linux box8:~# grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz I replied to JohnK but forgot to Reply All :-( but lshw reveals *-cpu:0 description: CPU product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz vendor: Intel Corp. physical id: 4 bus info: cpu at 0 version: 6.7.10 serial: 0001-067A-0000-0000-0000-0000 slot: Socket 775 size: 1600MHz capacity: 4GHz width: 64 bits Thanks for your help, Peter http://www.pjb.com.au pjb at pjb.com.au (03) 6278 9410 "Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949 From jsbragg at scriptforge.org Thu Nov 9 07:09:04 2017 From: jsbragg at scriptforge.org (Scott Bragg) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 20:09:04 +0000 Subject: [Taslug] All those Python experts out there ... In-Reply-To: References: <9a0a0bd0bc60c43f7c2fb74ea73d70da@scriptforge.org> Message-ID: You do have a 64bit CPU (Core2 Duo is 64bit) but you are only running the 32bit version of Debian. You will need to replace or dual boot the OS with the 64bit version to use TensorFlow. Cheers Scott November 8, 2017 9:08 PM, "Peter Billam" wrote: > On 2017-11-08 20:20, Scott Bragg wrote: > >> It looks like you are running 32bit Debian whereas TensorFlow >> is might only be supported on 64 bit. >> What CPU do you have in the machine, almost all Intel/AMD CPUs >> after 2005 are 64bit so you can install 32 and 64bit OSes on them. >> Can you tell us the results from commands: >> uname -a >> grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo > > box8:~# uname -a > Linux box8 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2 (2017-04-30) i686 GNU/Linux > box8:~# grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo > model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz > model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz > > I replied to JohnK but forgot to Reply All :-( but lshw reveals > *-cpu:0 > description: CPU > product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz > vendor: Intel Corp. > physical id: 4 > bus info: cpu at 0 > version: 6.7.10 > serial: 0001-067A-0000-0000-0000-0000 > slot: Socket 775 > size: 1600MHz > capacity: 4GHz > width: 64 bits > > Thanks for your help, Peter > > http://www.pjb.com.au pjb at pjb.com.au (03) 6278 9410 > "Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman > from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949 > _______________________________________________ > Taslug mailing list > Taslug at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/taslug From taslug at bleeter.id.au Thu Nov 9 07:35:54 2017 From: taslug at bleeter.id.au (Peter Lawler) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 07:35:54 +1100 Subject: [Taslug] All those Python experts out there ... In-Reply-To: References: <9a0a0bd0bc60c43f7c2fb74ea73d70da@scriptforge.org> Message-ID: <5b78e237-83bd-fed0-b4e5-cb0845674468@bleeter.id.au> If you wish to try some true fun*, https://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit P. *please note the DANGER WILL ROBINSON notes. But yeah, for those who feel like trying - it can be a rewarding experience. On 09/11/17 07:09, Scott Bragg wrote: > You do have a 64bit CPU (Core2 Duo is 64bit) but you are only running the 32bit version of Debian. > > You will need to replace or dual boot the OS with the 64bit version to use TensorFlow. > > Cheers > Scott > > > November 8, 2017 9:08 PM, "Peter Billam" wrote: > >> On 2017-11-08 20:20, Scott Bragg wrote: >> >>> It looks like you are running 32bit Debian whereas TensorFlow >>> is might only be supported on 64 bit. >>> What CPU do you have in the machine, almost all Intel/AMD CPUs >>> after 2005 are 64bit so you can install 32 and 64bit OSes on them. >>> Can you tell us the results from commands: >>> uname -a >>> grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo >> box8:~# uname -a >> Linux box8 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2 (2017-04-30) i686 GNU/Linux >> box8:~# grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo >> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz >> model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz >> >> I replied to JohnK but forgot to Reply All :-( but lshw reveals >> *-cpu:0 >> description: CPU >> product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz >> vendor: Intel Corp. >> physical id: 4 >> bus info: cpu at 0 >> version: 6.7.10 >> serial: 0001-067A-0000-0000-0000-0000 >> slot: Socket 775 >> size: 1600MHz >> capacity: 4GHz >> width: 64 bits >> >> Thanks for your help, Peter >> >> http://www.pjb.com.au pjb at pjb.com.au (03) 6278 9410 >> "Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman >> from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949 >> _______________________________________________ >> Taslug mailing list >> Taslug at lists.linux.org.au >> http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/taslug > _______________________________________________ > Taslug mailing list > Taslug at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/taslug From pjb at pjb.com.au Sat Nov 11 16:05:56 2017 From: pjb at pjb.com.au (Peter Billam) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 16:05:56 +1100 Subject: [Taslug] All those Python experts out there ... Message-ID: Greetings all After a messy wrestling-match on Thursday I now have an amd64 kernel and a working system and have just installed tensorflow :-) Thanks, Peter http://www.pjb.com.au pjb at pjb.com.au (03) 6278 9410 "Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949 From pjb at pjb.com.au Tue Nov 14 19:14:44 2017 From: pjb at pjb.com.au (Peter Billam) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 19:14:44 +1100 Subject: [Taslug] Digital Filter talk Message-ID: <19d3e4960dd6cd4833adc5b76ddadee8@pjb.com.au> Greetings all, In case there's anyone who missed it, the slides and text of the October talk can be found at: http://www.pjb.com.au/comp/lua/digitalfilter_talk/index.html Peter Billam http://www.pjb.com.au pjb at pjb.com.au (03) 6278 9410 "Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949 From henry.it.ltn at gmail.com Mon Nov 20 10:51:24 2017 From: henry.it.ltn at gmail.com (Henry) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:51:24 +1100 Subject: [Taslug] Launceston Taslug November Meeting Message-ID: Hi Luggers, This month's Launceston meeting will feature a talk about Cheese's recent experiences with preparing and exhibiting a at PAX Australia last month. We'll be taking a look at how Free/Open Source tools were used to design and create signage, and how Linux based computers were used to display the game. Note that we will be not holding a meeting in December, and will be returning for 2018 on the last Saturday in January! **Where** Enterprize 22-24 Patterson St **When** Saturday 26th November 2:00pm Start As always, everybody is welcome to come along and join the discussion. Hope to see you there! Attitude ? ) From jsbragg at scriptforge.org Thu Nov 23 09:02:12 2017 From: jsbragg at scriptforge.org (Scott Bragg) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 22:02:12 +0000 Subject: [Taslug] Hobart coordinator needed Message-ID: <01a71ddf27f66842e3a8c1a2ecd31d8d@scriptforge.org> Hi everyone, This year has gotten very busy for me with many side projects and it doesn't look like it will let up any time soon. With declining attendance, I don't have the time to continue organising Hobart TasLUG meetings and I am open to someone else taking up the reins. If you'd like to give it a go, let the list know in reply and/or join the chat on Matrix #taslug:matrix.org or IRC #taslug at freenode. Cheers Scott -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dennis at studiojunkyard.com Sat Nov 25 09:51:49 2017 From: dennis at studiojunkyard.com (Dennis) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 09:51:49 +1100 Subject: [Taslug] Hobart coordinator needed In-Reply-To: <01a71ddf27f66842e3a8c1a2ecd31d8d@scriptforge.org> References: <01a71ddf27f66842e3a8c1a2ecd31d8d@scriptforge.org> Message-ID: <4a813348-ad6b-6dd3-bf2a-36e2db693ea3@studiojunkyard.com> Hi Everyone, Unfortunately I haven't been able to attend any meeting, as much as I would love to be a lot more active in the group. DIstance, and time prevent me being able to attend. However, I happened to be fossicking around on GitHub, doing a search for "taslug" and found https://github.com/taslug I'm wondering if this is an official account, or someone just using this as storage of events, and so on. If it is official, is there anything I, and others can do to get more involved to not only keep things up to date, make contributions, or whatever to keep the group active? Anyway, I'm open to idea. If anyone wants to get in touch on Github my account is https://github.com/DiemenDesign Have a great weekend everyone, and for those in the North be safe with all the current lightning around. On 23/11/17 09:02, Scott Bragg wrote: > Hi everyone, > > This year has gotten very busy for me with many side projects and it > doesn't look like it will let up any time soon. With declining > attendance, I don't have the time to continue organising Hobart TasLUG > meetings and I am open to someone else taking up the reins. > > If you'd like to give it a go, let the list know in reply and/or join > the chat on Matrix #taslug:matrix.org or IRC #taslug at freenode. > > Cheers > Scott > > > > _______________________________________________ > Taslug mailing list > Taslug at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/taslug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsbragg at scriptforge.org Sat Nov 25 10:05:16 2017 From: jsbragg at scriptforge.org (Scott Bragg) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 23:05:16 +0000 Subject: [Taslug] Hobart coordinator needed In-Reply-To: <4a813348-ad6b-6dd3-bf2a-36e2db693ea3@studiojunkyard.com> References: <4a813348-ad6b-6dd3-bf2a-36e2db693ea3@studiojunkyard.com> <01a71ddf27f66842e3a8c1a2ecd31d8d@scriptforge.org> Message-ID: <4384b5e56094ffc856842f9d1694cddd@scriptforge.org> Hi Dennis, The github.com/taslug group was created by me to put any group work there. Also, right now the website is an old gnusocial instance, but I did consider moving it to a Jekyll static site which can be hosted (and thus free) on Github or Gitlab pages. The process stalled converting the old wordpress and gnusocial content to Jekyll blog posts, but I will still accept pull requests for this. Cheers, Scott November 25, 2017 9:52 AM, "Dennis" )> wrote: Hi Everyone, Unfortunately I haven't been able to attend any meeting, as much as I would love to be a lot more active in the group. DIstance, and time prevent me being able to attend. However, I happened to be fossicking around on GitHub, doing a search for "taslug" and found https://github.com/taslug (https://github.com/taslug) I'm wondering if this is an official account, or someone just using this as storage of events, and so on. If it is official, is there anything I, and others can do to get more involved to not only keep things up to date, make contributions, or whatever to keep the group active? Anyway, I'm open to idea. If anyone wants to get in touch on Github my account is https://github.com/DiemenDesign (https://github.com/DiemenDesign) Have a great weekend everyone, and for those in the North be safe with all the current lightning around. On 23/11/17 09:02, Scott Bragg wrote: Hi everyone, This year has gotten very busy for me with many side projects and it doesn't look like it will let up any time soon. With declining attendance, I don't have the time to continue organising Hobart TasLUG meetings and I am open to someone else taking up the reins. If you'd like to give it a go, let the list know in reply and/or join the chat on Matrix #taslug:matrix.org or IRC #taslug at freenode. Cheers Scott _______________________________________________ Taslug mailing list Taslug at lists.linux.org.au (mailto:Taslug at lists.linux.org.au) http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/taslug (http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/taslug) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dennis at studiojunkyard.com Sat Nov 25 15:04:55 2017 From: dennis at studiojunkyard.com (Dennis) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:04:55 +1100 Subject: [Taslug] Hobart coordinator needed In-Reply-To: <4384b5e56094ffc856842f9d1694cddd@scriptforge.org> References: <4a813348-ad6b-6dd3-bf2a-36e2db693ea3@studiojunkyard.com> <01a71ddf27f66842e3a8c1a2ecd31d8d@scriptforge.org> <4384b5e56094ffc856842f9d1694cddd@scriptforge.org> Message-ID: <94023e64-cc55-5793-7ab3-2697493090ca@studiojunkyard.com> Hi Scott, I'll check it out, if there's anything in particular you need help with I'm more than happy to help, just let me know. Regards, Dennis On 25/11/17 10:05, Scott Bragg wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > The github.com/taslug group was created by me to put any group work there. > > Also, right now the website is an old gnusocial instance, but I did > consider moving it to a Jekyll static site which can be hosted (and > thus free) on Github or Gitlab pages. > > The process stalled converting the old wordpress and gnusocial content > to Jekyll blog posts, but I will still accept pull requests for this. > > Cheers, > Scott > > > November 25, 2017 9:52 AM, "Dennis" > wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Unfortunately I haven't been able to attend any meeting, as much > as I would love to be a lot more active in the group. DIstance, > and time prevent me being able to attend. However, I happened to > be fossicking around on GitHub, doing a search for "taslug" and > found https://github.com/taslug > > I'm wondering if this is an official account, or someone just > using this as storage of events, and so on. > > If it is official, is there anything I, and others can do to get > more involved to not only keep things up to date, make > contributions, or whatever to keep the group active? > > Anyway, I'm open to idea. If anyone wants to get in touch on > Github my account is https://github.com/DiemenDesign > > Have a great weekend everyone, and for those in the North be safe > with all the current lightning around. > > On 23/11/17 09:02, Scott Bragg wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> This year has gotten very busy for me with many side projects and >> it doesn't look like it will let up any time soon. With declining >> attendance, I don't have the time to continue organising Hobart >> TasLUG meetings and I am open to someone else taking up the reins. >> >> If you'd like to give it a go, let the list know in reply and/or >> join the chat on Matrix #taslug:matrix.org or IRC #taslug at freenode. >> >> Cheers >> Scott >> >> _______________________________________________ Taslug mailing listTaslug at lists.linux.org.au http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/taslug > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cheeseness at freesoftwareforall.org Mon Nov 27 13:04:42 2017 From: cheeseness at freesoftwareforall.org (Cheeseness) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:04:42 +1000 Subject: [Taslug] Launceston Taslug November Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1511748282.2935.11.camel@freesoftwareforall.org> Hi hi! For anybody who's interested, I popped up the slides I used for my talk here: http://winterswake.com/temp/foss-for-pax/ Cheese On Mon, 2017-11-20 at 10:51 +1100, Henry wrote: > Hi Luggers, > This month's Launceston meeting will feature a talk about > Cheese's recent experiences with preparing and exhibiting a at PAX > Australia last month. We'll be taking a look at how Free/Open Source > tools were used to design and create signage, and how Linux based > computers were used to display the game. > > Note that we will be not holding a meeting in December, and will be > returning for 2018 on the last Saturday in January! > > **Where** > Enterprize > 22-24 Patterson St > > > **When** > Saturday 26th November > 2:00pm Start > > As always, everybody is welcome to come along and join the > discussion. > Hope to see you there! > > Attitude > ? ) > _______________________________________________ > Taslug mailing list > Taslug at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/taslug