Hi All,<br><br>As promised, here's an edited version. Hopefully I'm kept the sense of it, but if anyone wants the full logs, just email me.<br><br>**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 23 19:03:32 2010<br><snip><br>20:06:21 <donak> the topics I suggested were:<br>
20:06:39 <donak> > - Lug in a Box/Club in a Box (declaration of self interest!)<br>20:06:39 <donak> > - Software Freedom Day<br>20:06:39 <donak> > - General running of a LUG<br><snip><br>
20:08:00 <jhesketh> > - <a href="http://linux.conf.au">linux.conf.au</a> 2011: Rallying interest and volunteers<br><snip><br>20:09:43 <noorbeast> We have had chats about LUG/Club in a box before, but is there actual progress resulting in something usable?<br>
20:10:56 <donak> LUG in a box was the version that some of the LA team was working on, but I haven't heard a lot of it lately<br><snip><br>20:13:14 <noorbeast> Not being critical about LIAB, but I am interested in what other lugs use, web wise, and if there is financial support for things such as domain reg<br>
<snip><br>20:13:58 <dns53> what does it actually include<br>20:14:07 <Swathe> materials can be hosted on there, discussion forums etc<br>20:14:36 <donak> afaik, website, wiki, mailing list, maybe membership list too ...<br>
20:14:54 <Jiko> all a lug really needs at minimum is a mailing list or two, a website, and maybe a wiki or similar, and some kind of membership db<br><snip><br>20:16:54 <noisymime> FWIW, we try to keep it simple. Our mailing list sign up doubles as membership registration<br>
20:16:55 <dns53> does it have a project page?<br>20:16:59 <Jiko> Swathe: of course we don't have to wait for LA to provide something<br>20:17:24 <jhesketh> I have a feeling (and I may be wrong) that it is being designed to provide those things in instant deployment<br>
20:17:32 <Jiko> noisymime: I'm assuming that means your LUG doesn't have any assets then<br>20:17:48 <jhesketh> so either the LUG or LA could easily click a button and create a new VM for a lug instantly<br>
<snip><br>20:18:14 <noisymime> Jiko: Beyond a donated server and a small library, nope.<br><snip><br>20:18:58 <Jiko> noisymime: cool - HUMBUG is $15/year, and maintains network equipment, and a server<br>
<snip><br>20:20:51 <evil_steve> CLUG was doing Club-In-A-Box<br><snip><br>20:21:15 <johnf> we are talking about lugs needing hardware?<br>20:21:19 <evil_steve> the LA admin team was looking at "virtual-LUG", but there wasn't really any feedback from the list when members were asked if they would want one<br>
20:21:23 <johnf> or servers?<br>20:21:33 <donak> I thought LA was doing a "LUG in a Box" too<br>20:21:47 <evil_steve> donak: that's virtual-LUG<br>20:21:58 <johnf> so my opinion on this (and I am also part of the LA admin team) is as follows'<br>
20:22:16 <johnf> if your LUG has admin type resources then find a nice company to sponsor a VPS for you<br>20:22:19 <evil_steve> I started looking at LUG-In-A-Box, CLUG announced a meeting management system named the same thing, so I changed the LA server thing to be be called "virtual-LUG"<br>
<snip><br>20:23:08 <johnf> If you don't have any admins then the problem is a bit more difficult since you need some sort of managed service<br>20:23:12 <noorbeast> So is there any support for things like reg domain name, or are LUGs funding that?<br>
20:23:57 <donak> when he says "support", he means $upport :-)<br><snip><br>20:24:52 <johnf> I think if a LUG didn't collect membership fees and put in a grant request to cover domain names and some nominal hosting fee then LA may consider it<br>
20:24:54 <johnf> although ... not sure if current grant programme caters for that sort of request<br>20:25:09 <Swathe> another member has the fcilities to host it himself for a nominal or no fee<br>20:25:31 <Jiko> johnf: what about delegating a subdomain of <a href="http://linux.org.au">linux.org.au</a> to a LUG instead?<br>
20:25:48 <noorbeast> Who would manage it?<br>20:25:50 <Jiko> so something like <a href="http://cqlug.linux.org.au">cqlug.linux.org.au</a> or similar for CQLUG<br>20:25:59 <Jiko> even just an A record should be enough ... oh, and MX<br>
20:26:15 <johnf> jiko: would you want mail hosted as well? ... or just an MX record? ... as far as just DNS. I don't think that would be a problem<br>20:26:35 <Jiko> johnf: CQLUG currently has a mailing list hosted with LA, not sure if we'd want something more than that<br>
20:26:43 <donak> johnf, LA is already providing us a mailing list, if that's what you mean<br>20:26:46 <Jiko> johnf: I'm just thinking for the smaller LUGS<br>20:27:00 <johnf> email the council with a request and we'll talk it through and put together a proposal to the membership.<br>
<snip><br>20:29:40 <johnf> so is this meeting regular?<br>20:29:53 <johnf> if so I'll turn up reguarly or delegate it to someone on the council :)<br>20:29:55 <Swathe> i think the sub domain is a good i dea though<br>
20:30:06 <noorbeast> Is that Box/Club in a Box topic done now donak, is it SFD next?<br>20:30:16 <donak> it's supposed to be on the Last Tuesday of the month ... but January didn't happen afaik<br>
20:30:38 <donak> yes, we can move on to SFD ... in September<br>20:30:55 <donak> we've still got the blank CDs LA sent us for last year<br>20:31:00 <noorbeast> Funding for signs 'please'!!<br>
20:31:39 <Swathe> signage would be grat<br>20:31:51 <Swathe> we got some good interest despite the fact we were tucked away<br>20:32:13 <donak> and a penguin suit (which I will NOT wear)<br>20:33:01 <Swathe> lol<br>
20:33:09 <evil_steve> FYI - The DVD's arrived in October, I just never got around to seeing if anyone wanted them<br>20:33:32 <evil_steve> so if you want the pre-printed DVD's, let me know and i"ll sort out getting them out to people<br>
20:33:35 <donak> you send 'em - we'll use 'em (eventually)<br><snip><br>20:34:52 <evil_steve> what was provided was pre-printed CD's (and DVD's) with no data burnt on them<br><snip><br>
20:35:18 <noorbeast> Sorry, that is what I meant as an example of a great initiative, any more good ideas like that<br>20:35:19 <evil_steve> ie - pre-printed blanks<br><snip><br>20:37:36 <evil_steve> donak: the DVD's were a screw up on the printers part, if you want DVD's,e mail me the postal address and I'll get some in the mail<br>
<snip><br>20:42:19 <noorbeast> Worked best for us tagged on the coat tails of the uni open day, other than lack of signs, but what works for others? Insurance would kill Stockland<br>20:42:22 <Swathe> The Local TAFE runs a night linux course<br>
20:42:31 <Swathe> if we could get a body up there perhaps<br>20:42:38 <Jiko> the uni runs a sysadmin course<br>20:42:42 <Swathe> depending on the times i am happy to go<br>20:43:41 <donak> Public Liability Insurance is the one thing I do know LA does grants for<br>
20:45:42 <noorbeast> What do other LUGs plan or do for SFD?<br>20:47:01 <noorbeast> No ideas! Is it time to move on to General running of a LUG?<br><snip><br>20:48:43 <donak> also : <jhesketh> > - <a href="http://linux.conf.au">linux.conf.au</a> 2011: Rallying interest and volunteers<br>
<snip><br>20:53:42 <noorbeast> seems not: <a href="http://followtheflow.org/">http://followtheflow.org/</a><br><snip><br>20:54:33 <Jiko> LCA2011 committee<br><snip><br>20:54:53 <jhesketh> help either before, during or after the conference is always appreciated. For example, if you can't help set up before, or pack up after, you can still help by volunteering for the rego desk, AV team, ushering, general info/directing etc<br>
<snip><br>21:00:59 <Swathe> <noorbeast> No ideas! Is it time to move on to General running of a LUG?<br>21:01:03 <donak> anyway, I think we've dominated the conversation enough ... either it's the end, or it's someone elses turn<br>
21:04:58 <Swathe> so if this meeting is over, what is the comitee or other LUGs wanting brought to something like this?<br>21:05:22 <Swathe> surely this is a great thing to have and in my opinion should contiue<br>
21:06:08 <Swathe> and i would really love to hear ideas other LUGs have had that we could use to help our little commune grow<br><snip><br>21:07:56 <Swathe> peghaps regional representatives wwho can attend to bring in concerns/ideas etc to the IRC meetings<br>
21:08:17 <Swathe> or at least a point of contact<br>21:09:03 <donak> we've got the mailing lists, just have to make judicious use of them<br>21:09:25 <Swathe> maybe a digest of the topic put forward in advance to something a little more formal can be drawn up so these things will b discussed<br>
<snip><br>21:12:12 <donak> anyway, I'll send that email, but for now, I declare the meeting : Closed!<br><snip><br>**** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 23 22:38:40 2010<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Don Knowles<br>
Rockhampton, Australia<br>